Congress sucks...

[Henry Hawk]

is there a law mandating vacation time?

It is being introduced NOW, I posted it a few posts ago, it is called the Paid Vacation Act, I attached a link to it.

[mcgonser]

NOW, congress has the bright idea of Paid Vacation Act ... to make paid vacation time a requirement under federal law!.....congress SUCKS!! folks.............NOW, they want to continue to instruct the entreprenuers of this Country HOW to run their business.....   AMAZING!!! 

[Gryphon]

thanks Henry, I guess I didnt scroll up far enough.

We agree its unnecessary. I  really doubt there are any companies with over 100 employees that dont provide that (or didnt before the current "crunch")

[Gryphon]

"France currently requires employers to provide 30 days of paid leave. "

Im movin to France.



But, wow, Im a little surprised that its a requirement in so many other countries.

[Henry Hawk]

"France currently requires employers to provide 30 days of paid leave. "

Im movin to France.



But, wow, Im a little surprised that its a requirement in so many other countries.

because those other countries are predomintaly ...socialist...and THAT is the difference....I am proud of the United States, and I have NO desire to try to be like some of the OTHER countries....the basic concept of free enterprise and our Constitution makes us the Greatest in the World....in my opinion...

[LOsborne]

What do they have to do with anything?

You said "these companies are struggling to stay solvent yet congress wants them to put out more money still." These are two of the most well-known recently failed companies. We can talk about Bank of America or Wells Fargo/WaMu if you prefer. The point is their insolvency was not caused by the "generous" benefits they provided to their employees, but by the unmitigated greed of the board of directors and the shareholders. These companies were cutting benefits even as they stuffed the Christmas stockings of the already-wealthy with cash.

I'm losing patience. If that isn't what you were talking about, what were you talking about???

[LOsborne]

Actually, I was more referring to vacation time....

Vacation time? That's nickel and dime stuff. In fact, the new thrust (among caring companies) is to allow employees to sell back vacation time, and thereby bank a week or two of extra pay. After all, you can't eat a vacation, or trade it to a hospital for treatment.

[LOsborne]

is there a law mandating vacation time?

No. There is also no law mandating sick leave or holiday pay. There is a law requiring companies to pay time and a half for all hours worked over forty in one pay period. Hence the sudden popularity of employing more part-timers.

[me]

You said "these companies are struggling to stay solvent yet congress wants them to put out more money still." These are two of the most well-known recently failed companies. We can talk about Bank of America or Wells Fargo/WaMu if you prefer. The point is their insolvency was not caused by the "generous" benefits they provided to their employees, but by the unmitigated greed of the board of directors and the shareholders. These companies were cutting benefits even as they stuffed the Christmas stockings of the already-wealthy with cash.

I'm losing patience. If that isn't what you were talking about, what were you talking about???

Did it ever occur to you I might not be referring to those companies since they, in all likely hood, already give paid vacations?

[LOsborne]

Did it ever occur to you I might not be referring to those companies since they, in all likely hood, already give paid vacations?

No it didn't, since we weren't talking about vacations at the time, but about health insurance, retirement plans, and raises. Henry didn't raise the point about vacations until the post after the one of yours I quoted.

But if you were not referring to these companies, which companies that do not offer paid vacations were you referring to? Name me one, which employs more than 100 workers, that does not already offer paid vacations?

[LOsborne]

Obviously published by a union...

Which union is that me?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_These_Times#History

I'm starting to believe Ex. You just make it up as you go along, don't you?

[me]

Henry's post:

NOW, congress has the bright idea of Paid Vacation Act ... to make paid vacation time a requirement under federal law!.....congress SUCKS!! folks.............NOW, they want to continue to instruct the entreprenuers of this Country HOW to run their business.....   AMAZING!!! 

My post:

So let me see, these companies are struggling to stay solvent yet congress wants them to put out more money still.....Can you say company goes out of business because they can't afford the extra costs being cast upon them and everybody loses?  Look what the unions have done for the auto industry.

If you will notice Henry's post was well before mine. 

If most companies with more than 100 employees are already giving some form or paid vacation why does the government even need to intervene?  One more step towards socialism....

[me]

Which union is that me?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/In_These_Times#History

I'm starting to believe Ex. You just make it up as you go along, don't you?

All of them.  They started out as a good thing yes but have gotten greedy and only care about themselves and are not really helping the worker IMO.  They use bully tactics if a company don't want to unionize and the bottom line is they want the money period.  They could actually give a shit less about the workers. 

[LOsborne]

Henry's post:
My post: If you will notice Henry's post was well before mine.

I apologize me. Since the conversation had moved to include the much more costly benefits of insurance, retirement, and cost of living raises, I thought that is what you were referring to. I should realize that not everyone reads posts at the same time and in the same order as I do. I hope you can forgive me for being snotty.

[LOsborne]

All of them.  They started out as a good thing yes but have gotten greedy and only care about themselves and are not really helping the worker IMO.  They use bully tactics if a company don't want to unionize and the bottom line is they want the money period.  They could actually give a shit less about the workers.

I tend to agree with you about union tactics in most cases, but I was asking which union published the article in In These Times.