Embryonic Stem Cells Kill

[Exterminator]

Is literacy a bad thing now?

[Henry Hawk]

Who knows what they might have accomplished by now if they hadn't been hindered.  Heck, they might have even been able to teach mcgonser how to spell 'diabetes'!

this only means they will NOW get federal tax dollars.......now the States who aere struggling with their own economic situtations will more than likely contribute less and the same from philanthropists...

[mcgonser]

Is literacy a bad thing now?

Literacy is the ability to read or understand something(from wikipedia) Can you not understand something if it is not spelled correctly?? Kind of a bad habit, correctlng everyone isn't it? I now choose you to be our Spelling and Grammar police chief. Just please be a little more considerate and tactful ok.

[Exterminator]

Literacy is the ability to read or understand something(from wikipedia) Can you not understand something if it is not spelled correctly?

The question isn't whether or not I can understand something but whether or not someone who is marginally literate can.  If I read something, I typically understand it to mean what the author intended whereas when someone who doesn't read as well reads it, he or she may glean an entirely different meaning leading them to conclusions that are inaccurate.  A lot of republicans do this.   

[me]

Who knows what they might have accomplished by now if they hadn't been hindered.  Heck, they might have even been able to teach mcgonser how to spell 'diabetes'!

It was still going on in other countries and they still haven't been able to get any kind of results.  They already have proven results using other types of stem cells so why, other than also trying cloning which also has serious drawbacks, even continue with the embryonic studies?

[me]

The question isn't whether or not I can understand something but whether or not someone who is marginally literate can.  If I read something, I typically understand it to mean what the author intended whereas when someone who doesn't read as well reads it, he or she may glean an entirely different meaning leading them to conclusions that are inaccurate.  A lot of republicans do this.   

Too bad you never bothered to read any books on common sense and manners.                 

[Exterminator]

It was still going on in other countries and they still haven't been able to get any kind of results.  They already have proven results using other types of stem cells so why, other than also trying cloning which also has serious drawbacks, even continue with the embryonic studies?

Why not?

[Exterminator]

Too bad you never bothered to read any books on common sense and manners.

Obviously, you haven't either but you seem to be under the misguided perception that I am here to try to impress you.

[me]

Why not?

Wouldn't it make more sense to put the money toward something that has been proven to work than channel part of it to something that so far has produced no results or poor results? 

[me]

Obviously, you haven't either but you seem to be under the misguided perception that I am here to try to impress you.

If you are trying to impress it isn't working because I'm not.  Making snide remarks and correcting other posters English and punctuation are about the only things you have contributed to any of the threads that I've seen.  You have shown nothing to prove that you know anything other than how to be rude.

[Palehorse]

Wouldn't it make more sense to put the money toward something that has been proven to work than channel part of it to something that so far has produced no results or poor results?

*I'm trying to stay out of this one*

But. . . this is the exact kind of thinking that got the world where it is today! It is especially dangerous in science, wherein humankind will stagnate if not for r and d. . .

[me]

*I'm trying to stay out of this one*

But. . . this is the exact kind of thinking that got the world where it is today! It is especially dangerous in science, wherein humankind will stagnate if not for r and d. . .

I understand what you're saying but it's kind of like wasting money in one area on a whim when it could be spent in another area to improve what already works.

[Palehorse]

I understand what you're saying but it's kind of like wasting money in one area on a whim when it could be spent in another area to improve what already works.

No. . . it is not. That tripe about esc's is based upon scare tactics. The Pro lifers lost ground and they are mewling like scared little kittens. The fact is that legislation had zero business being passed in the first place, and as has already been stated, it only served to obstruct the progress that was being made.

ESC's are the best surrounding spinal regeneration research potential and what transpired only served to diminish the hope it holds for those that would benefit greatly from progression within that area. The truth is we had barely tapped the possibilities when W slammed the door shut, forcing research to "create" an alternative that increases the timeline for research incredibly, and that isn't anywhere near as promising, yet we progressed despite it; although at a cost.

Dolly scared the panties off the holy rollers and they saw this legislation as a means to put a wall up to scientific progress; just as religion has always done throughout history. These hysterical reactions are ludicrous and one would think society would learn from its mistakes instead of mindlessly repeating them! 

"Oh but it's playing God!" cry the holy rollers. But think about that a little bit would you? Let's take the words of "the book"; (I paraphrase a bit here). . .God created man in his own image. . . So, I'll submit to that and take it a little farther down the path. If the creator did indeed start with this intention and also provided us with free will, did he not also provide us with the ability and the intelligence to learn that which "he" already knows? Why not? If he really didn't want us to go down a path wouldn't it be safe to say then that "he" would and should be the one putting up the barriers to the knowledge? Wouldn't he do so if it is "forbidden"? (Oh, that's right, there's the old apple and serpent parable. . .)

(I apologize for acknowledging the elephant in the room, forcing everyone to do the same; but when you get to the bottom line on this subject you will find the only reason we're talking about it is the religious objection to it in the first place!)

[mcgonser]

Too bad you never bothered to read any books on common sense and manners.               

You just showed what is wrong with the system. We have 2 football teams the Republicans and Democrats. Who must, by any means win. Our politicians are busy pleasing their party and not their voters. This have caused such a division that nothing can get done because they are too busy proving the other one wrong. Such a tragedy.

[me]

You just showed what is wrong with the system. We have 2 football teams the Republicans and Democrats. Who must, by any means win. Our politicians are busy pleasing their party and not their voters. This have caused such a division that nothing can get done because they are too busy proving the other one wrong. Such a tragedy.

I think they should all, including anyone who might run for President,  have to live for at least 6 months on the income of the average citizen on an income of around 35 to 50k a year and pay taxes just like we do so they will understand what it really means to be a working class citizen.  Most Congressmen have no clue and some don't really care.  I also think there should be a one or two term limit.