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You can't educate anyone who hasn't the brain power to separate the wheat from the chaff.   :wink:
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"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Bo D on July 08, 2015, 03:54:15 PM
He is no more qualified than I am in Climatology. His OPINION carries no more weight than mine. In fact, it carries LESS than mine because he is pretending to be an expert outside his field of training.
That is open for debate...but to say the least....when people like Al Gore, who with zero doubts OVER SOLD this issue.....according to him...just a little over 9-years ago, exclaimed we had less than ten years to save the planet.  We are still pretty much the same planet was was then.

I am crazy for even going down this road.....but

after a long down time...I am just going to stop here.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 08, 2015, 04:27:07 PM
That is open for debate...but to say the least....when people like Al Gore, who with zero doubts OVER SOLD this issue.....according to him...just a little over 9-years ago, exclaimed we had less than ten years to save the planet.  We are still pretty much the same planet was was then.

I am crazy for even going down this road.....but

after a long down time...I am just going to stop here.

Good God, man! You really do need to stop after that! It shows that you have ZERO comprehension of the Gore statement. Ten years until until it's too late to stop the change.

Many respected CLIMATOLOGISTS believe we have already reached that Tipping Point
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Locutus

Again, weather is not climate, so this is just weather.  Weather, however, over time, is absolutely climate.

(CNN)An area the size of Connecticut has burned in Alaska this year, the state said. That's 3.1 million acres, a loss that comes during one of the hottest periods in decades.

The state set a new record for the earliest day with a temperature above 90, when the mercury hit 91 in the town of Eagle on May 23 -- 30 degrees hotter than the average high temperature in May, according to the National Weather Service.


The state is having wildfires if you bother to read the news story. 

Link to full article
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Quote from: Bo D on July 08, 2015, 04:45:12 PM


Many respected CLIMATOLOGISTS believe we have already reached that Tipping Point

Hank and 'me' probably don't even know what the "tipping point" is in degrees Celsius.  :rolleyes:   
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Bo D

Quote from: Bo D on July 08, 2015, 01:56:05 PM
WOW!

"As he admits in his own words, Nobel Prize winning physicist Ivar Giaever fits this mould perfectly:

    "I am not really terribly interested in global warming.  Like most physicists I don't think much about it.  But in 2008 I was in a panel here about global warming and I had to learn something about it.  And I spent a day or so - half a day maybe on Google, and I was horrified by what I learned.  And I'm going to try to explain to you why that was the case."

I keep thinking about this statement -"I spent a day or so - half a day maybe on Google, and I was horrified by what I learned."

I wonder if that's the same Internet that provided Hank with the pictures of the luxury U.S. prison? Or 'me' with the story that grapes can't be grown in England?

He read on the Internet so it has to be true!  :rolleyes:
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on August 04, 2015, 12:46:38 PM
Seems pretty straightforward.

It is, obviously.  Unfortunately, there's a large segment of the population that doesn't even believe the first line of that presentation is true.  If you can't believe the very first line, the rest of it is of little use. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Bo D

And then there's the faction that still believe that the sun orbits the Earth.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Exterminator

You can't fix stupid.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Quote from: Exterminator on August 04, 2015, 12:46:38 PM
Seems pretty straightforward.

Nice presentation that visually interprets all of the science and REAL data quite nicely. Unfortunately, (and I've said this repeatedly), there are those that will steadfastly refuse to believe it until they are frying like fatback in a hot skillet; then it will be too late to change anything.  :mad:
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May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

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Bo D

Earth in July was Hottest Month on Record

Earth just keeps getting hotter. July was the planet's warmest month on record, smashing old marks, U.S. weather officials said.

And it's almost a dead certain lock that this year will beat last year as the warmest year on record, they said.

July's average temperature was 61.86 degrees Fahrenheit, beating the previous global mark set in 1998 and 2010 by about one-seventh of a degree, according to figures released August 20, 20115, by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. That's a large margin for weather records, with previous monthly heat records broken by a 20th of a degree or less.

"It just reaffirms what we already know: that the Earth is warming," said NOAA climate scientist Jake Crouch. "The warming is accelerating and we're really seeing it this year."

This shows that, despite what climate change doubters say, there is no pause in warming since 1998, Blunden said.

http://www.scientificcomputing.com/news/2015/08/feeling-heat-earth-july-was-hottest-month-record?et_cid=4759339&et_rid=54725525&location=top
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

The Troll

Quote from: Bo D on August 24, 2015, 12:15:36 PM
Earth in July was Hottest Month on Record

Earth just keeps getting hotter. July was the planet's warmest month on record, smashing old marks, U.S. weather officials said.

And it's almost a dead certain lock that this year will beat last year as the warmest year on record, they said.

July's average temperature was 61.86 degrees Fahrenheit, beating the previous global mark set in 1998 and 2010 by about one-seventh of a degree, according to figures released August 20, 20115, by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. That's a large margin for weather records, with previous monthly heat records broken by a 20th of a degree or less.

"It just reaffirms what we already know: that the Earth is warming," said NOAA climate scientist Jake Crouch. "The warming is accelerating and we're really seeing it this year."

This shows that, despite what climate change doubters say, there is no pause in warming since 1998, Blunden said.

http://www.scientificcomputing.com/news/2015/08/feeling-heat-earth-july-was-hottest-month-record?et_cid=4759339&et_rid=54725525&location=top


  About the only thing good about global warming is, it will not have much effect on the people here on the Zone.  Because we will be dead.  But what happens to our kids is something else.  :uns: :tweed: :sun: :sun: :sun: 

Palehorse

. . ."First - do you believe it is acceptable that 7 million people die every year from pollution? That's more than murders, suicides, and car accidents - combined.
Every day, 19,000 people die from pollution from fossil fuels. Do you accept those deaths? Do you accept that children all over the world have to grow up breathing with inhalers?

Now, my second question: do you believe coal and oil will be the fuels of the future?

Besides the fact that fossil fuels destroy our lungs, everyone agrees that eventually they will run out. What's your plan then?
I, personally, want a plan. I don't want to be like the last horse and buggy salesman who was holding out as cars took over the roads. I don't want to be the last investor in Blockbuster as Netflix emerged. That's exactly what is going to happen to fossil fuels."
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R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville