News:

Welcome Guests! Thank you for visiting the Unknown Zone! Please consider taking the short amount of time it will take to read the Registration Agreement and register for an account. You will have full access to all message boards (some of which are invisible to you now), and you can enjoy a friendly national forum with that local touch!

Main Menu

Global Warming

Started by DannyBoy, January 03, 2009, 10:08:29 AM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on March 19, 2012, 10:52:52 AM
. . .and yet, We continue to pour BILLIONS in subsidies into oil companies each year while they rake in BILLIONS in record level profits. . . .All the while raping every single end user in the world.  :rolleyes:

and I agree, and I think MOST conservatives would agree that MOST of those subsidies, if not all of them should be gone!  The government should NOT be subsidizing anything...but they should also not be shackling Oil companies with over regulations that keep them drilling for oil and for gas on and off shore....let free enterprise fix our economy and its mess.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 19, 2012, 11:09:54 AM
and I agree, and I think MOST conservatives would agree that MOST of those subsidies, if not all of them should be gone!  The government should NOT be subsidizing anything...but they should also not be shackling Oil companies with over regulations that keep them drilling for oil and for gas on and off shore....let free enterprise fix our economy and its mess.

I guess you missed this then:

Quote from: Palehorse on March 18, 2012, 10:22:31 PM
Drill baby, drill;Spill baby, spill!

A federal court in Brazil has issued an order barring 17 executives from U.S. oil giant Chevron and Transocean Ltd. from leaving the country while it mulls criminal charges against them for an oil spill last year.
Among the 17 who were ordered Saturday by a federal judge in Rio de Janeiro to give up their passports is an American: George Buck, the chief operating officer of Chevron's Brazil division.
Kurt Glaubitz, a Chevron spokeman, said the company has not received a formal notification of the order.
"Any legal decision will be abided by the company and its employees," he said. "We will defend the company and its employees."
The oil spill occurred in deep water off the coast of Rio de Janeiro in November.
The next month, Brazilian federal prosecutors filed a suit against Chevron and oil rig operator Transocean for 20 billion reais, about $11 billion.
. . .

. . .

And it appears Brazil has an ongoing, although smaller version of the Deepwater Horizon environmental disaster itself. And one of the players is the same!

They learn nothing from each one of these deepwater spill events, and now they're imposing it upon other countries!  :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on March 19, 2012, 11:19:21 AM
I guess you missed this then:


I clearly said OVER regulate.  NOT do away with regulations all together. 
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 19, 2012, 11:38:47 AM
I clearly said OVER regulate.  NOT do away with regulations all together.

I fail to see where requiring an effective remediation plan for events like the Deepwater Horizon, can be considered over regulation. And making such a plan an integral part of the permitting process is imperative! We MUST be proactive instead of reactive when it comes to environmental threats.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 19, 2012, 11:09:54 AM
The government should NOT be subsidizing anything...but they should also not be shackling Oil companies with over regulations that keep them drilling for oil and for gas on and off shore....let free enterprise fix our economy and its mess.

Would you be ok with international coal companies mining coal on U.S. soil so they can load it on boats and ship it somewhere else to sell?  That is exactly what you're suggesting with the oil companies...let them rape America of her natural resources and sell them to the highest bidder.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Palehorse

Record warmth already in Indiana, with records falling for the last 4 days in a row, and expected to continue record breaking heat with today and tomorrow; with todays high shattering a high set back in 1894. . . and tomorrow expected to do the same.  :spooked: :spooked: :spooked: :spooked:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on March 19, 2012, 11:46:21 AM
Would you be ok with international coal companies mining coal on U.S. soil so they can load it on boats and ship it somewhere else to sell?  That is exactly what you're suggesting with the oil companies...let them rape America of her natural resources and sell them to the highest bidder.

I think we jsut need a better "balanced trade act".  Tariffs on those product being exported instead of allowing subsidies.....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville


The Troll

Quote from: Palehorse on March 19, 2012, 10:52:52 AM
. . .and yet, We continue to pour BILLIONS in subsidies into oil companies each year while they rake in BILLIONS in record level profits. . . .All the while raping every single end user in the world.  :rolleyes:

  After hearing all the bull shit and stupidity that comes out of the most under educated morons "ME" and Henry I can see why this country is in such bad shape.  That why the Republican and Tea Party is a failing entity full of morons and bull shitters.

  Common sense is not one of their strengths and it is truly a energy loss to talk to them.   :no:

Palehorse

Today's Indianapolis forecast says we will tie an all time high of 85 degrees today.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Henry Hawk

Astronauts condemn NASA's global warming endorsement
http://washingtonexaminer.com/politics/washington-secrets/2012/04/astronauts-condemn-nasa's-global-warming-endorsement/469366


In an unprecedented slap at NASA's endorsement of global warming
science, nearly 50 former astronauts and scientists--including the ex-boss
of the Johnson Space Center--claim the agency is on the
wrong side of science and must change course or ruin the reputation
of the world's top space agency.

Challenging statements from NASA that man is causing climate
change, the former NASA executives demanded in a letter to
Administrator Charles Bolden that he and the agency "refrain from
including unproven remarks" supporting global warming in the media.

We feel that NASA's advocacy of an extreme position, prior to a
thorough study of the possible overwhelming impact of natural
climate drivers is inappropriate," they wrote. "At risk is damage to
the exemplary reputation of NASA, NASA's current or former
scientists and employees, and even the reputation of science itself."

The letter was signed by seven Apollo astronauts, a deputy
associate administrator, several scientists, and even the deputy
director of the space shuttle program.

NASA had no immediate comment.

In their letter, the group said that thousands of years of data
challenge modern-day claims that man-made carbon dioxide is
causing climate change. "With hundreds of well-known climate
scientists and tens of thousands of other scientists publicly declaring
their disbelief in the catastrophic forecasts, coming particularly from
(NASA's) Goddard Institute for Space Studies leadership, it is clear
that the science is NOT settled," they wrote.

NASA's website is filled with stories about the impact of climate
change on the earth, animals, and ecosystems. Most administration
officials agree with the position NASA has taken.

"The unbridled advocacy of CO2 being the major cause of climate
change is unbecoming of NASA's history of making an objective
assessment of all available scientific data prior to making decision or
public statements," the critics added.

Their letter was heralded by outspoken global warming critic and
author Leighton Steward who said, "These American heroes, the
astronauts that took to space and the scientists and engineers that
put them there, are right to criticize NASA's advocacy of an extreme
and unsubstantiated position."
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll


  After studying the affects of carbon dioxide for over 100 years, the melting of the ice pack at the North and South pole.  The rapid melting of the glaciers and actual raise in the sea level.  Oh no, no, no it can't be global warming.  Do your have to be brain dead to see that there is a correlation of adding carbon dioxide to the atomsphere would cause Global Warming.  :doh:  :knife:

Palehorse

Give it up Troll. . . Only way they're going to believe it is when their fat is frying like bacon in a hot pan. . . and but then it will be too late anyway. . .  :yes:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville