Global Warming

[Locutus]

and it cracks me up that there is actually someone who KNEW the CO2 level 650,000 years ago....and even more so that there are people who believe that a chart like the above is even remotely accurate...

HH, I don't mean to be insulting, but that comment right there just goes to show that you haven't a clue about this subject matter, let alone how scientists make the determinations that they make in producing data such as the above. 

Go read, educate yourself a bit, and then get back to me.  I'll respect your "opinion" a lot more when it's based on facts and evidence. 

[The Troll]

I say we stick all the nonbelievers in a pod and send them out to orbit. Let them kill off each other with their toxic lifestyle. Meanwhile, those who care can stay and clean things up.

  I would like a rocket to the sun and give it some more fuel.

[The Troll]

HH, I don't mean to be insulting, but that comment right there just goes to show that you haven't a clue about this subject matter, let alone how scientists make the determinations that they make in producing data such as the above. Go read, educate yourself a bit, and then get back to me. I'll respect your "opinion" a lot more when it's based on facts and evidence.

  Locutus, he sure hasn't heard about the deep ice core they drilled at the North Pole.  Which takes us back thousands and thosands years, inch by inch, giving the oxygen and carbon dioxide levels, volcanic activity, and plant life through pollen type and count.  Just like the rings on a tree can tell you how it lived.  He sure isn't the brightess bulb in the package of Science, is he?

[me]

You have yet to explain to me how "A" buying up credits from "B" because they don't use their allotment and being allowed to put out the same amount, or more because they bought extra,  of gasses is going to solve a thing.  It will still be the same amount except the rich guy has enough to buy the right to do it and we don't have enough to keep warm because we don't have enough to buy the extra credits to use over the amount allotted to us.   And yes, we will be told how much energy we can use and if you don't think so you'd be wrong.

[Palehorse]

You have yet to explain to me how "A" buying up credits from "B" because they don't use their allotment and being allowed to put out the same amount, or more because they bought extra,  of gasses is going to solve a thing.  It will still be the same amount except the rich guy has enough to buy the right to do it and we don't have enough to keep warm because we don't have enough to buy the extra credits to use over the amount allotted to us.   And yes, we will be told how much energy we can use and if you don't think so you'd be wrong.

It's called rationing. No matter how many "players" you have the "pool" is a finite amount. That amount is determined via scientific data that determines the limits. . .

Pretty simple really, if you'd take off those blinders you insist on wearing.

[Locutus]

  Locutus, he sure hasn't heard about the deep ice core they drilled at the North Pole.  Which takes us back thousands and thosands years, inch by inch, giving the oxygen and carbon dioxide levels, volcanic activity, and plant life through pollen type and count.  Just like the rings on a tree can tell you how it lived.  He sure isn't the brightess bulb in the package of Science, is he?

Troll, I like HH and have been posting with him for a long time.  He's an affable individual, but it really bothers me when people dismiss things out of hand without even bothering to do a bit of research to see how data, such as depicted in the chart, are gathered.   It would be humorous if it weren't so downright dangerous for all of us.  The sad thing is, it's dangerous for them too, but they don't realize it. 

[Palehorse]

and it cracks me up that there is actually someone who KNEW the CO2 level 650,000 years ago....and even more so that there are people who believe that a chart like the above is even remotely accurate...

. . .

This whole process has been explained to you in detail elsewhere within this forum. Not only is it validated science but it is factual as well, and is universally accepted world wide by individuals with far more education and experience in the field than everyone else on this forum combined. . .

What cracks me up is how easily you dismiss that which you do not understand. . . THAT is why we are all going to burn, right here on earth and not in hell. . .

[Locutus]

Here's more evidence from those damn scientists.  But who cares?  They either don't know what they're talking about or are flat out lying.

[Locutus]

^^  There HH.   That only goes back to 2002.  Maybe that makes it a bit more reliable in your mind.  That is unless you believe they're lying about it. 

[Henry Hawk]

I do realize dangers....and I see a bigger danger by following a "scientific" group that is being funded by a political ideology....there has already been corruption and lying going in that climate group....Al Gore IS, a lying, cheating flake....and for those of you who think that putting your trust into this IPCC...they have admitted to cheating and lying on data, that you guys are relying on to set our standard of living...and that is just bullshit to me...it is all propaganda to get political power....

so I think the blinders is being worn by the folks who has bought into this propaganda...

http://www.thenewamerican.com/index.php/tech-mainmenu-30/environment/2377-ipcc-researchers-admit-global-warming-fraud

http://nov55.com/ipcc.html

Locutus, I appreciate your approach to this, and you kind words....but, I honestly DO, read and I have formulated opinions based on my own research.....not just listening to Rush, like I am always accused of....

I will say this again, I am ALL in favor of becoming less dependent on fossil fuels....and improving our technology to burn these fuels cleaner and more efficiently....

This whole IPCC fraud and Al Gore have caused me to distrust a certain amount of the so-called scientific community....

[Palehorse]

So in other words, scientists are the same as Mexicans, and middle eastern people huh. . .

[Henry Hawk]

So in other words, scientists are the same as Mexicans, and middle eastern people huh. . .

why do you like taking that knife and twisting it in my back?

[me]

Like I said in an earlier post....Too bad those scientists weren't here to prevent the ice age.   

[Locutus]

BTW, HH, in case you haven't heard, the scientists in "climategate" were exonerated.  It's too bad that their minor indiscretion has done so much damage especially when exploited by corporate interests and pounded into the heads of the ignorant masses by the likes of Fox News Channel.   

http://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2010/0707/Climate-scientists-exonerated-in-climategate-but-public-trust-damaged

[Palehorse]

why do you like taking that knife and twisting it in my back?

I don't and I am not.

As a matter of fact, it has become all but impossible to even talk to you anymore. So, I guess I'll just STFU and read. . .