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Bo D

#270
February 03, 2009, 12:41:11 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 03, 2009, 12:21:27 PM
keyword here is ... accused......by advocacy groups none-the-less...

Yes - advocacy groups - the same type of group you depend on to advocate your position.

I didn't say I agreed with it. Although there has been considerable evidence that it happened.  I posted it as an illustration.
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Henry Hawk

#271
February 03, 2009, 12:55:05 PM
Quote from: Bo D on February 03, 2009, 12:41:11 PM
Yes - advocacy groups - the same type of group you depend on to advocate your position.

I didn't say I agreed with it. Although there has been considerable evidence that it happened.  I posted it as an illustration.

I'm with you on this....I just tend to lean towards Global Warming being a bit skewed to the liberal side and being PUSHED as "life and death".....because of things produced by MAN...
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me

#272
February 03, 2009, 12:57:38 PM
Leading Russian journalist 'poisoned'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/sep/06/russia.chechnya

October 16, 2008
Lawyer of murdered journalist Anna Politkovskaya 'poisoned'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4954795.ece


Radiation found after spy's death   
Police probing the death of Russian ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko have found above-normal levels of radiation at three locations in London.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6180682.stm
Quote from: Bo D on February 03, 2009, 12:38:55 PM
Really? I must be behind in my reading. When did they do that in the UK?
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Bo D

#273
February 03, 2009, 12:58:02 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 03, 2009, 12:55:05 PM
I'm with you on this....I just tend to lean towards Global Warming being a bit skewed to the liberal side and being PUSHED as "life and death".....because of things produced by MAN...

There are extremists on both sides of the debate. But to deny it is happening is just plain wrong.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

#274
February 03, 2009, 01:00:29 PM
Quote from: Bo D on February 03, 2009, 12:58:02 PM
There are extremists on both sides of the debate. But to deny it is happening is just plain wrong.

I'm not convinced that it is doom and gloom due to man's contribution........I don't deny, that pollution being dumped into our air is causing some havoc, and is harmful, but I am NOT a believer that our oceans will rise 20' feet in a few years due to our carbon problem....and I totally believe that Al Gore is a crook.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

#275
February 03, 2009, 01:05:30 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 03, 2009, 01:00:29 PM
I'm not convinced that it is doom and gloom due to man's contribution........I don't deny, that pollution being dumped into our air is causing some havoc, and is harmful, but I am NOT a believer that our oceans will rise 20' feet in a few years due to our carbon problem....and I totally believe that Al Gore is a crook.

It may be longer than a 'few years' but it is very possible over the course of a century or so. Nobody in the scientific community has ever claimed any different.

And what does Al Gore have to do with anything? Have I ever quoted him? No...
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me

#276
February 03, 2009, 01:07:28 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 03, 2009, 01:00:29 PM
I'm not convinced that it is doom and gloom due to man's contribution........I don't deny, that pollution being dumped into our air is causing some havoc, and is harmful, but I am NOT a believer that our oceans will rise 20' feet in a few years due to our carbon problem....and I totally believe that Al Gore is a crook.
I'm with you on that one Henry.  He's all about lining his pockets with that carbon credit money.  It's like he's saying I've got money so I can do as I please since I can afford to purchase these cc's from my own company but you average people have to cut back on everything.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 03, 2009, 01:00:29 PM
I'm not convinced that it is doom and gloom due to man's contribution........I don't deny, that pollution being dumped into our air is causing some havoc, and is harmful, but I am NOT a believer that our oceans will rise 20' feet in a few years due to our carbon problem....and I totally believe that Al Gore is a crook.
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me

#277
February 03, 2009, 01:08:12 PM
Quote from: Bo D on February 03, 2009, 01:05:30 PM
It may be longer than a 'few years' but it is very possible over the course of a century or so. Nobody in the scientific community has ever claimed any different.

And what does Al Gore have to do with anything? Have I ever quoted him? No...
Seems like he's the one that started this whole global warming thing with that movie.
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Bo D

#278
February 03, 2009, 01:10:06 PM
Quote from: me on February 03, 2009, 12:57:38 PM
Leading Russian journalist 'poisoned'

http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2004/sep/06/russia.chechnya

October 16, 2008
Lawyer of murdered journalist Anna Politkovskaya 'poisoned'
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/europe/article4954795.ece


Radiation found after spy's death   
Police probing the death of Russian ex-spy Alexander Litvinenko have found above-normal levels of radiation at three locations in London.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/6180682.stm

Too funny!!!! I hope you aren't serious.

Just to recap. I quoted an article from the Guardian (in the UK or United Kingdom or colloquially 'England')

To which you responded .....

Quote from: me on February 03, 2009, 12:16:04 PM
And you're going to use an article from a newspaper that comes from a country where the leader poisons people who oppose him?  Give me a break.

No where did you think the Guardian was from? Or the London Times OnLine? Or the BBC? Just because they published a report on the RUSSIANS????  LOL LOL LOL!!!!! I know for a fact that you can find those same reports on Fox news.



"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan

Henry Hawk

#279
February 03, 2009, 01:10:27 PM
Quote from: Bo D on February 03, 2009, 01:05:30 PM
It may be longer than a 'few years' but it is very possible over the course of a century or so. Nobody in the scientific community has ever claimed any different.

And what does Al Gore have to do with anything? Have I ever quoted him? No...

I never said you quoted him...it is people like HIM that is keeping people from trusting those that backed him.......like Rush's name was brought up earlier as one who is saying there is NO problems....

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Palehorse

#280
February 03, 2009, 01:12:54 PM
Quote from: me on February 03, 2009, 01:08:12 PM
Seems like he's the one that started this whole global warming thing with that movie.

Naw. . . but he did provide it with increased visibility and awareness. Just look at this thread! If he had not produced "An Inconvenient Truth", would the majority of you even be discussing this?  :biggrin:
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Bo D

#281
February 03, 2009, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: me on February 03, 2009, 01:08:12 PM
Seems like he's the one that started this whole global warming thing with that movie.

He commercialized it ... I don't disagree with that. But if you keep insisting that grapes can't grow in England, or that the English government poisons their opposition ....  well ... that tells me a lot about the caliber of your comprehension skills.
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Sandy Eggo

#282
February 03, 2009, 02:10:37 PM
Just to be clear, Gore didn't start "this whole global warming thing".
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me

#283
February 03, 2009, 02:20:15 PM
Hum, seems like both sides are equally as guilty of hand picking evidence to support which ever side of the fence they're on which puts me right in the middle somewhere.  Guess all we can really do is hope the government don't go nuts doing stuff that is going to raise our taxes through the roof and not makes a dimes worth of difference in the long run.  If they can't predict the weather accurately a week ahead how can they predict years ahead? IMO all it amounts to is different sets of facts plugged into a computer with different sets of hypothetical situations which can arrive at many different conclusions.  I will agree that pollution is a problem but I don't agree with needing to be taxed out of existence to help cure it.

http://oversight.house.gov/documents/20070130114413-25161.pdf
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Bo D

#284
February 03, 2009, 02:27:54 PM
Quote from: me on February 03, 2009, 02:20:15 PM
Hum, seems like both sides are equally as guilty of hand picking evidence



At least I'm hand-picking grapes GROWN IN ENGLAND!

:icon_twisted:

I won't even attempt to teach you about forecasting weather trends and the Arctic ice melt and that effect on the Gulf Stream .... you might think Tony Blair is back and poisoning his enemies.
"Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former."  Carl Sagan
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