545 vs. 300,000,000 People
By Charlie Reese
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?
Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?
You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.
You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.
You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.
You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.
You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.
One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.
I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.
Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.
What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.
The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.
It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.
If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.
If the Army & Marines are in a foreign country it's because they want them in a foreign country ...
If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.
There are no insoluble government problems.
Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.
Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
They, and they alone, have the power.
They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.
Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...
We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!
Great piece. :yes:
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Exterminator on January 13, 2013, 02:06:50 PM
545 vs. 300,000,000 People
By Charlie Reese
Politicians are the only people in the world who create problems and then campaign against them.
Have you ever wondered, if both the Democrats and the Republicans are against deficits, WHY do we have deficits?
Have you ever wondered, if all the politicians are against inflation and high taxes, WHY do we have inflation and high taxes?
You and I don't propose a federal budget. The President does.
You and I don't have the Constitutional authority to vote on appropriations. The House of Representatives does.
You and I don't write the tax code, Congress does.
You and I don't set fiscal policy, Congress does.
You and I don't control monetary policy, the Federal Reserve Bank does.
One hundred senators, 435 congressmen, one President, and nine Supreme Court justices equates to 545 human beings out of the 300 million are directly, legally, morally, and individually responsible for the domestic problems that plague this country.
I excluded the members of the Federal Reserve Board because that problem was created by the Congress. In 1913, Congress delegated its Constitutional duty to provide a sound currency to a federally chartered, but private, central bank.
I excluded all the special interests and lobbyists for a sound reason. They have no legal authority. They have no ability to coerce a senator, a congressman, or a President to do one cotton-picking thing. I don't care if they offer a politician $1 million dollars in cash. The politician has the power to accept or reject it. No matter what the lobbyist promises, it is the legislator's responsibility to determine how he votes.
Those 545 human beings spend much of their energy convincing you that what they did is not their fault. They cooperate in this common con regardless of party.
What separates a politician from a normal human being is an excessive amount of gall. No normal human being would have the gall of a Speaker, who stood up and criticized the President for creating deficits. The President can only propose a budget. He cannot force the Congress to accept it.
The Constitution, which is the supreme law of the land, gives sole responsibility to the House of Representatives for originating and approving appropriations and taxes. Who is the speaker of the House? He is the leader of the majority party. He and fellow House members, not the President, can approve any budget they want. If the President vetoes it, they can pass it over his veto if they agree to.
It seems inconceivable to me that a nation of 300 million cannot replace 545 people who stand convicted -- by present facts -- of incompetence and irresponsibility. I can't think of a single domestic problem that is not traceable directly to those 545 people. When you fully grasp the plain truth that 545 people exercise the power of the federal government, then it must follow that what exists is what they want to exist.
If the tax code is unfair, it's because they want it unfair.
If the budget is in the red, it's because they want it in the red.
If the Army & Marines are in a foreign country it's because they want them in a foreign country ...
If they do not receive social security but are on an elite retirement plan not available to the people, it's because they want it that way.
There are no insoluble government problems.
Do not let these 545 people shift the blame to bureaucrats, whom they hire and whose jobs they can abolish; to lobbyists, whose gifts and advice they can reject; to regulators, to whom they give the power to regulate and from whom they can take this power. Above all, do not let them con you into the belief that there exists disembodied mystical forces like "the economy," "inflation," or "politics" that prevent them from doing what they take an oath to do.
Those 545 people, and they alone, are responsible.
They, and they alone, have the power.
They, and they alone, should be held accountable by the people who are their bosses.
Provided the voters have the gumption to manage their own employees...
We should vote all of them out of office and clean up their mess!
Quote from: Locutus on January 13, 2013, 02:08:30 PM
Great piece. :yes:
:yes:
Yet 90 plus percent are reelected each time. Why?
Quote from: RC on January 13, 2013, 04:37:05 PM
Yet 90 plus percent are reelected each time. Why?
Because the sheep bleat and believe the propaganda instead of doing a little bit of homework and figuring out the truth for themselves. Why? Because it is easier for them and they can sit on their large posteriors eating bon-bons.
I think it is because one is as bad as the next one and 'the devil you know is better than the one you don't'. The new guy promises things you know he/she can't deliver and the old guy promises to do better.
Quote from: Anne on January 13, 2013, 05:43:55 PM
I think it is because one is as bad as the next one and 'the devil you know is better than the one you don't'. The new guy promises things you know he/she can't deliver and the old guy promises to do better.
Well said and accurate.
Best regards,
Duke (forked tongues everywhere) Jupiter
Man who speaks with forked tongue should not have licked a razor blade.
Quote from: RC on January 13, 2013, 04:37:05 PM
Yet 90 plus percent are reelected each time. Why?
RC, we've been talking about this for a long time around here. I posed this exact same question here on another board in this forum:
http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=18400.0
Something is going to have to change, and it's in our hands, as members of the electorate, to change it. If we don't change as a populace, we're simply doomed to a continued state of ineffective leadership in the federal government. It will continue to be a place where personal careers, lobbyists, and money, all replace the best interests of the people who sent them there.
It's one thing that we all agree on around here. And for all of us to agree on something is rare. ;D
Quote from: Locutus on January 14, 2013, 12:34:31 AM
RC, we've been talking about this for a long time around here. I posed this exact same question here on another board in this forum:
http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=18400.0
Something is going to have to change, and it's in our hands, as members of the electorate, to change it. If we don't change as a populace, we're simply doomed to a continued state of ineffective leadership in the federal government. It will continue to be a place where personal careers, lobbyists, and money, all replace the best interests of the people who sent them there.
It's one thing that we all agree on around here. And for all of us to agree on something is rare. ;D
Part of the problem is that most people think their congressman is doing a good job. They will say it is the other guys that are the problem. With the exception of gun rights our congressman is as far left as any of the liberals and perverts that make up the MA group.
Quote from: RC on January 14, 2013, 11:58:42 AM
Part of the problem is that most people think their congressman is doing a good job. They will say it is the other guys that are the problem. With the exception of gun rights our congressman is as far left as any of the liberals and perverts that make up the MA group.
Agreed. I've always maintained that what you describe is
exactly what the problem is. Rather than seeing one's own elected officials as being part of the problem, most people think theirs are fine and dandy, and the representatives of others the problem.
I think we've arrived at the point where every last one of them is a problem, and they all need to go. :yes:
Where are you going to find an honest politician -- one who cannot be corrupted? And, let's don't forget that there will always be people who are not politicians whose votes can be bought.
When I was a girl, I remember hearing the husband of one of my cousins say that he was doing some work for a well- known and liked lawyer/politician in our county in southern WV. I was skeptical because the fellow talking was not a high school graduate and worked on the railroad, so I asked him what his job was, and he said, without the slightest hesitation or embarrassment, "I pass out likker so people will vote for him."
Quote from: libby on January 16, 2013, 11:34:32 AM
Where are you going to find an honest politician -- one who cannot be corrupted? And, let's don't forget that there will always be people who are not politicians whose votes can be bought.
. . .
Quite right. However, "greasing the rails" by enabling corporations and the wealthy to contribute to their campaigns without limitation does nothing to help the situation, but rather nurtures it. $$ = influence upon our legislative process, and reduces the status of the individual vote and will of the private citizens of this nation to the status of toilet paper. (Perhaps even less).
And as for the individual citizens decision to "sell their vote"; enacting legislation that is draconian toward the citizens of this nation helps ensure that their votes can be bought easily. It facilitates this by reducing their quality of life to desperate levels wherein they will "do anything" to get some food in the stomachs of their children, a roof over their head, a fire in the furnace,. . . etc. :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 16, 2013, 12:39:17 PM
Quite right. However, "greasing the rails" by enabling corporations and the wealthy to contribute to their campaigns without limitation does nothing to help the situation, but rather nurtures it. $$ = influence upon our legislative process, and reduces the status of the individual vote and will of the private citizens of this nation to the status of toilet paper. (Perhaps even less).
And as for the individual citizens decision to "sell their vote"; enacting legislation that is draconian toward the citizens of this nation helps ensure that their votes can be bought easily. It facilitates this by reducing their quality of life to desperate levels wherein they will "do anything" to get some food in the stomachs of their children, a roof over their head, a fire in the furnace,. . . etc. :yes:
What "desperate level", the food stamp,obama phone babies get it all for free they are living the high life on my dime. That how obama got his reelection , they voted themselves all the freebies that he will give them. It is the people not taking anything from the government that need help , not the lowlife pill heads and assorted other misfits, perverts, and ner-do wells that are destroying society.
Quote from: RC on January 16, 2013, 12:51:38 PM
What "desperate level", the food stamp,obama phone babies get it all for free they are living the high life on my dime. That how obama got his reelection , they voted themselves all the freebies that he will give them. It is the people not taking anything from the government that need help , not the lowlife pill heads and assorted other misfits, perverts, and ner-do wells that are destroying society.
Get a life RC (meathead). The reason your damn Republican Party didn't win was because you didn't have a good candidate. They were all meatheads like you. People living on your dime. :haha: :haha: Just how much money are you giving cheapskate. Probably not much, living on your dime. :haha: Is that why we have so much poverty in this country is because of poor people are living on your dime. Give me a break. :haha: :haha:
Quote from: RC on January 16, 2013, 12:51:38 PM
What "desperate level", the food stamp,obama phone babies get it all for free they are living the high life on my dime. That how obama got his reelection , they voted themselves all the freebies that he will give them. It is the people not taking anything from the government that need help , not the lowlife pill heads and assorted other misfits, perverts, and ner-do wells that are destroying society.
Exactly the type of diatribe I'd expect from an extremist right winged zealot. I know, you cannot help it. I blame the media propaganda blitz that has served to brainwash and condition you to knee jerk react toward those things your false idols hold dear.
Everything you said has not only been disproven, but shown to be in fact nothing but a pack of lies. Hypothetically though, lets just say they aren't lies. How do you think the majority of the citizens in this country got so desperate? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that manufacturing has been fleeing the shores of this country for several decades? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that medical insurance companies have been running roughshod over the insured for several decades with abject denials of claims, outrageous premium increase, and draconian policies that remove the doctors who see you from the treatment equation? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that the social safety nets that were allowed to be abused by the lethargic minority of society for decades, are suddenly and absolutely needed by an every growing number of citizens in this country that lost jobs they worked at for decades through no fault of their own? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that the financial entities in this country were allowed to swindle billions of dollars from the citizens of this country over the past 3 decades via bait and switch instruments that were enabled by deregulation of the industry decades ago?
Let me answer those questions for you; absolutely NOT! But it IS his job, and the job of congress, to fix all of these problems. And that is not something that can be done in 4 or 8 years, and certainly not something that can be done by saying "NO" to everything and every program designed to do just that; fix this.
That old adage that says, "you're either part of the solution or you are part of the problem" certainly applies in these situations. And abjectly saying "NO" makes congress the biggest part of the problem. It's just that simple.
You want wars? The pay for them. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on January 16, 2013, 01:18:31 PM
Exactly the type of diatribe I'd expect from an extremist right winged zealot. I know, you cannot help it. I blame the media propaganda blitz that has served to brainwash and condition you to knee jerk react toward those things your false idols hold dear.
Everything you said has not only been disproven, but shown to be in fact nothing but a pack of lies. Hypothetically though, lets just say they aren't lies. How do you think the majority of the citizens in this country got so desperate? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that manufacturing has been fleeing the shores of this country for several decades? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that medical insurance companies have been running roughshod over the insured for several decades with abject denials of claims, outrageous premium increase, and draconian policies that remove the doctors who see you from the treatment equation? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that the social safety nets that were allowed to be abused by the lethargic minority of society for decades, are suddenly and absolutely needed by an every growing number of citizens in this country that lost jobs they worked at for decades through no fault of their own? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that the financial entities in this country were allowed to swindle billions of dollars from the citizens of this country over the past 3 decades via bait and switch instruments that were enabled by deregulation of the industry decades ago?
Let me answer those questions for you; absolutely NOT! But it IS his job, and the job of congress, to fix all of these problems. And that is not something that can be done in 4 or 8 years, and certainly not something that can be done by saying "NO" to everything and every program designed to do just that; fix this.
That old adage that says, "you're either part of the solution or you are part of the problem" certainly applies in these situations. And abjectly saying "NO" makes congress the biggest part of the problem. It's just that simple.
You want wars? The pay for them. . .
Thank you, thank you I am glad that I still have it, "right wing zealot". The point that you will not grasp is, the people on public dole have it far better than the people who work. And most on the public dole should be thrown off! I do not know what war has to do with it, but if we threw all the dead beats off the dole we could pay for the wars.
We used to be a strong hardy people in this country, now most are just sheeple waiting their turn at the government feed pan, and are willing to sell their soul for it.
I think it's hysterical that we have yet another functional illiterate spewing about 'his' dime...like he pays shit.
Quote from: RC on January 16, 2013, 02:10:19 PM
Thank you, thank you I am glad that I still have it, "right wing zealot". The point that you will not grasp is, the people on public dole have it far better than the people who work. And most on the public dole should be thrown off! I do not know what war has to do with it, but if we threw all the dead beats off the dole we could pay for the wars.
We used to be a strong hardy people in this country, now most are just sheeple waiting their turn at the government feed pan, and are willing to sell their soul for it.
Seriously? You think people that currently are forced to take advantage of the social safety net somehow have it "better"? Better than what? Better than who? Are your standards surrounding quality of life seriously that low?! :spooked:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 17, 2013, 10:53:17 AM
Are your standards surrounding quality of life seriously that low?! :spooked:
Dude...he lives in West Virginia.
Quote from: RC on January 16, 2013, 02:10:19 PM
Thank you, thank you I am glad that I still have it, "right wing zealot". The point that you will not grasp is, the people on public dole have it far better than the people who work. And most on the public dole should be thrown off! I do not know what war has to do with it, but if we threw all the dead beats off the dole we could pay for the wars.
We used to be a strong hardy people in this country, now most are just sheeple waiting their turn at the government feed pan, and are willing to sell their soul for it.
Yep Meathead, we have people in prison who has it better than the poor minimum wage working people working 40 hours a week. Madoff and prisoners get a cot, three meals a day and free medical care and all of the television they want. People living the good life off of your dime. :haha: :haha:
Just like Henry and "ME" you don't know shit. :haha: Give me a break. :doh:
Quote from: Exterminator on January 17, 2013, 11:11:43 AM
Dude...he lives in West Virginia.
So he claims. . . Ignorance knows no bounds though. . .
Quote from: Exterminator on January 17, 2013, 11:11:43 AM
Dude...he lives in West Virginia.
By way of Indiana me thinks.
Best regards,
Duke (Montani Semper Liberi) Jupiter
You might have something there, duke.
Quote from: Exterminator on January 17, 2013, 10:48:33 AM
I think it's hysterical that we have yet another functional illiterate spewing about 'his' dime...like he pays shit.
There you go again, do you know what I pay? Just like a liberal run off with out the facts. Yes, the people at the public feed pan have it far better. Just come to this area and you can see them at any turn. For example:
free medical
free food
reduced electric service payments
free cell phone
some get cash payments
take advantage of church and missions
Steal any thing not bolted down
Quote from: RC on January 18, 2013, 11:28:44 AM
There you go again, do you know what I pay? Just like a liberal run off with out the facts. Yes, the people at the public feed pan have it far better. Just come to this area and you can see them at any turn. For example:
free medical
free food
reduced electric service payments
free cell phone
some get cash payments
take advantage of church and missions
Steal any thing not bolted down
Your position sure makes an awful lot of assumptions.
Free medical - Really? So the fact they may have worked for 30 years, paying into the system the entire time, and became disabled and could no longer work, or lost their jobs through no fault of their own is irrelevant?
Reduced Electric/Service payments - (Above applies here as well) What would you have happen to these people? Should they live in a hole in the ground, under a bridge, or perhaps in an abandoned home somewhere and be discovered in the spring as the human popsicle they have become thaws and decays?
Free Cell Phone - Proven a lie within the context in which you use it, previously.
Cash Payments - (See Free Medical)
Take advantage of church and missions - So now the purveyors of the great Sky Daddy are suddenly being victimized? You really do NOT want to go there with me. . .
Steal anything not bolted down - So now every single thief or social miscreant is a welfare cheat too? Really? You need to get out more and stop reading and accepting everything you read and hear as factual in basis.
In fact, I'd say your position smacks of the sour grapes you hold over your desire to be one of those individuals you envy. If so, why not step in front of a forklift at work and get permanently disabled so you can join them? Ludicrous and cruel suggestion you say? Well, no more so than what you are suggesting with your position!
Quote from: RC on January 18, 2013, 11:28:44 AM
There you go again, do you know what I pay?
Then tell us, asshole and tell us what you do to get that money; put up or shut up. Typical conservative lying piece of shit...
Quote from: Exterminator on January 18, 2013, 11:44:45 AM
Then tell us, asshole and tell us what you do to get that money; put up or shut up. Typical conservative lying piece of shit...
Typical example of a liberal post when confront with the truth. Call names use foul language repeat as needed.
Quote from: Palehorse on January 18, 2013, 11:39:42 AM
Your position sure makes an awful lot of assumptions.
Free medical - Really? So the fact they may have worked for 30 years, paying into the system the entire time, and became disabled and could no longer work, or lost their jobs through no fault of their own is irrelevant?
Reduced Electric/Service payments - (Above applies here as well) What would you have happen to these people? Should they live in a hole in the ground, under a bridge, or perhaps in an abandoned home somewhere and be discovered in the spring as the human popsicle they have become thaws and decays?
Free Cell Phone - Proven a lie within the context in which you use it, previously.
Cash Payments - (See Free Medical)
Take advantage of church and missions - So now the purveyors of the great Sky Daddy are suddenly being victimized? You really do NOT want to go there with me. . .
Steal anything not bolted down - So now every single thief or social miscreant is a welfare cheat too? Really? You need to get out more and stop reading and accepting everything you read and hear as factual in basis.
In fact, I'd say your position smacks of the sour grapes you hold over your desire to be one of those individuals you envy. If so, why not step in front of a forklift at work and get permanently disabled so you can join them? Ludicrous and cruel suggestion you say? Well, no more so than what you are suggesting with your position!
You have no grasp of reality. The people that sparked my comments are young able people in my area. People that need help are no problem. Can not resist resorting to lying just like any liberal. No "sour grapes", just think there should be more people pulling the wagon than riding in it.
Quote from: RC on January 18, 2013, 12:05:04 PM
You have no grasp of reality. The people that sparked my comments are young able people in my area. People that need help are no problem. Can not resist resorting to lying just like any liberal. No "sour grapes", just think there should be more people pulling the wagon than riding in it.
Your assumption is that "your area" is a microcosm of the entire nation. And I wonder how it is you know so much about these "young people" and their lives? :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 18, 2013, 11:39:42 AMYou need to get out more and stop reading and accepting everything you read and hear as factual in basis.
I've seen many of RC's posts over the years. What makes you think he can read?
Quote from: Olias on January 18, 2013, 12:36:46 PM
I've seen many of RC's posts over the years. What makes you think he can read?
:food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: RC on January 18, 2013, 12:01:47 PM
Typical example of a liberal post when confront with the truth. Call names use foul language repeat as needed.
Typical dodge from a conservative parasite.
Quote from: RC on January 18, 2013, 12:05:04 PM
You have no grasp of reality. The people that sparked my comments are young able people in my area. People that need help are no problem. Can not resist resorting to lying just like any liberal. No "sour grapes", just think there should be more people pulling the wagon than riding in it.
RC you're a typical god fearing, Jesus loving Conservative, greedy asshole and you're funny too. :haha: What a jerk. :doh:
I sure would love to buy you for what you are worth to the community and America and sell you for what your think you're worth. :haha: He keeps the American poor on his dime. :haha: :haha:
Hell, I could pay off the national debt and give free health care to every one in the country. :salute: :tiphat:
God has to love you, cause no one else does. Let us pray for RC. :pray: :preach: :pope: :haha: :haha: :rotfl:
Quote from: Olias on January 18, 2013, 12:36:46 PM
I've seen many of RC's posts over the years. What makes you think he can read?
:five: :rotfl: :haha: :haha:
Hey Ole' Right Winger you have officially landed in the hornets' nest.
;D
Best regards,
Duke (you ain't in 4 seasons land no more) Jupiter
ps ain't no kindler, gentler machine gun over here
Quote from: duke jupiter on January 18, 2013, 05:36:13 PM
Hey Ole' Right Winger you have officially landed in the hornets' nest.
;D
Best regards,
Duke (you ain't in 4 seasons land no more) Jupiter
ps ain't no kindler, gentler machine gun over here
Duke:
This is a third rate bunch of liberals/socialist, compared to the old 4 seasons bunch that tried to do me in. They can hurl no insult or charge at me I have not heard. You know that I have been right from the start.
Quote from: RC on January 19, 2013, 02:08:09 PM
. . . You know that I have been right from the start.
Extreme far right I would say. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 19, 2013, 02:30:26 PM
Extreme far right I would say. . . :rolleyes:
If believing in:
Life starts at conception.
Marriage is only for one man and one women.
The world was created in six twenty four hour days.
You have the right to defend your life and property, with a gun.
The government should live with in the money it takes in.
The individual is more important than the government.
One needs to take as much care as possible of your self, not the governments job.
Big business is good,self interest is good.
If theses things make me far right then, yes I am as far right as you can get.
Quote from: RC on January 19, 2013, 02:57:16 PM
If believing in:
Life starts at conception.
Marriage is only for one man and one women.
The world was created in six twenty four hour days.
You have the right to defend your life and property, with a gun.
The government should live with in the money it takes in.
The individual is more important than the government.
One needs to take as much care as possible of your self, not the governments job.
Big business is good,self interest is good.
If theses things make me far right then, yes I am as far right as you can get.
Thank you for validating that the opinions expressed by others within this forum surrounding your positions on just about everything, indeed make you a delusional twit. :yes: :yes: :yes:
Quote from: RC on January 19, 2013, 02:08:09 PM
Duke:
This is a third rate bunch of liberals/socialist, compared to the old 4 seasons bunch that tried to do me in. They can hurl no insult or charge at me I have not heard. You know that I have been right from the start.
Heck Ole' Right Winger you know as well as meself you and I have bantered more than a few times and it wasn't directly pertainin' to politics but views on life and how we judge folks however I do believe this country is becomin' more accomodatin' to folks who have no aspirations in life than to survive by the sweat of others and this a been a trait in mankind probably since the beginnin' of times. There is a percentage of folks in this world or are just dadburn lazy. In my opinion the cost of unwarranted wars and foreign aid has cost this country much more than takin' care of our own free-loaders. Politicians be they dems or pubs seem to be the same to me....underachievers and poor performers the majority of 'em.
Best regards,
Duke (me fingers are hurtin') Jupiter
ps excuse me ramblin' but I was born a ramblin' man
Quote from: Palehorse on January 19, 2013, 03:06:20 PM
Thank you for validating that the opinions expressed by others within this forum surrounding your positions on just about everything, indeed make you a delusional twit. :yes: :yes: :yes:
Let's not leave out his having validated that he is barely literate as well.
Quote from: RC on January 19, 2013, 02:57:16 PM
If believing in:
Life starts at conception.
Marriage is only for one man and one women.
The world was created in six twenty four hour days.
You have the right to defend your life and property, with a gun.
The government should live with in the money it takes in.
The individual is more important than the government.
One needs to take as much care as possible of your self, not the governments job.
Big business is good,self interest is good.
If theses things make me far right then, yes I am as far right as you can get.
Old RC (Rotten Crotch) just why don't you fill us in on where your got all of these fucked upped ideas.
1. Like what your age?
2. What kind of a job or business do you do?
3. How rich was your family when they brought the baby RC home from the hospital or were you born in a stable with a star over it?
4. Do you consider yourself in the upper 2% of the people in this country?
5. How many days do you practice walking on the water?
6. How much do you think you're worth? Because I would like to buy you for what you are worth to America and sell you for what you think you're worth. :biggrin: Why? Because when you boil it completely you're not worth much to anyone, especially too the Republican Party. :haha: :haha: :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on January 23, 2013, 03:59:17 PM
Old RC (Rotten Crotch) just why don't you fill us in on where your got all of these fucked upped ideas.
1. Like what your age?
2. What kind of a job or business do you do?
3. How rich was your family when they brought the baby RC home from the hospital or were you born in a stable with a star over it?
4. Do you consider yourself in the upper 2% of the people in this country?
5. How many days do you practice walking on the water?
6. How much do you think you're worth? Because I would like to buy you for what you are worth to America and sell you for what you think you're worth. :biggrin: Why? Because when you boil it completely you're not worth much to anyone, especially too the Republican Party. :haha: :haha: :rotfl:
1. Age does not matter when truth and right are on my side.
2.I have done well in the coal related industry.
3.Not very
4.No way, but I have been blessed and am not worried.
5.If I did, you would just say that I could not swim.
6.I am worth a lot to some people. AS of late the republicans disgust me almost as bad as the democratic party.
Hope this helps you.
Quote from: RC on January 24, 2013, 09:25:35 AM
1. Age does not matter when truth and right are on my side.
2.I have done well in the coal related industry.
3.Not very
4.No way, but I have been blessed and am not worried.
5.If I did, you would just say that I could not swim.
6.I am worth a lot to some people. AS of late the republicans disgust me almost as bad as the democratic party.
Hope this helps you.
;) That is great answers....the troll is just trolling.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 24, 2013, 09:43:30 AM
;) That is great answers....the troll is just trolling.
We is understand why you is in agreement. :wink:
http://www.youtube.com/v/ESidBrr2cxk
Why, is that a shit sandwich I see before me?
Hmmm. I'll have to taste it before I can tell.
Yep. It's shit.
I'll eat it.
A little.
Do you have black lung or did you work in the office where you didn't get dirty and sat on your ass? :confused:
Were you a union miner and loaded 15 tons of number nine coal? :biggrin:
If you're an old person what do you think about the Republicans screwing with your Social Security and Medicare? Plus the Republicans giving huge tax cuts for the upper 2%. :confused:
And if you made so much money, why are you so against giving a little money out of you big wad to the poor, elderly, and the people who didn't make it like you have. :wink:
Most of all, how do you explain voting for George W. Bush two time? Also please give me 5 things that the Republican Party a George W. Bush did for the middle class? We all know what he and his party has done for the rich 2%ers and done to America. :rant:
Quote from: The Troll on January 24, 2013, 01:53:48 PM
A little.
Do you have black lung or did you work in the office where you didn't get dirty and sat on your ass? :confused:
Were you a union miner and loaded 15 tons of number nine coal? :biggrin:
If you're an old person what do you think about the Republicans screwing with your Social Security and Medicare? Plus the Republicans giving huge tax cuts for the upper 2%. :confused:
And if you made so much money, why are you so against giving a little money out of you big wad to the poor, elderly, and the people who didn't make it like you have. :wink:
Most of all, how do you explain voting for George W. Bush two time? Also please give me 5 things that the Republican Party a George W. Bush did for the middle class? We all know what he and his party has done for the rich 2%ers and done to America. :rant:
office never did get dirty.
never loaded coal.
I have never placed my trust in SS.
I worked for mine let them work also and make theirs. I made good choices, they made poor ones.
GW did a great deal for the country. Two tings he did wrong, spend way to much money and the Patriot Act.
I do not mind the 2%, they have always given me a job and paid real well. A poor man has never given me anything.
Quote from: RC on January 25, 2013, 11:11:43 AM
A poor man has never given me anything.
Don't you claim to be a Christian? Wasn't Jesus a poor man? Are you saying Jesus never gave you anything?
He doesn't care about anyone but himself.
Another xtian that has no compassion, although the jeebus taught compassion.
Hypocrite.
"I do not believe that just because you're opposed to abortion, that that makes you pro-life. In fact, I think in many cases, your morality is deeply lacking if all you want is a child born but not a child fed, not a child educated, not a child housed. And why would I think that you don't? Because you don't want any tax money to go there. That's not pro-life. That's pro-birth." -- Sister Joan Chittister
Quote from: Olias on January 25, 2013, 11:28:47 AM
Don't you claim to be a Christian? Wasn't Jesus a poor man? Are you saying Jesus never gave you anything?
Jesus gave me eternal,life. While he was here on earth he had a trade as carpenter.
To me a pro life person is a liar and a hypocrites. My question is if you want a small government that as Grover Norquist said, "a government so small that you could drown it in a bath tub". Why are these people for making it a federal law that a woman can't have a abortion or any birth control? :doh:
Just what is that makes it your business, it isn't costing you a dime. These people want to control a woman's life without spending a dime to care for her. :rant:
What I want is a law that anyone who wants to make abortion illegal to be put in a federal data base. This is so that when a woman has an unwanted baby. These people will have their name drawn out and that person will give it their name, feed it, cloth it, educate it and provide all of it's care and it's health care till the age of 18. :yes:
If this law was passed you will see the cheapskates run for the hills and you could not find anyone that was against abortion. Yep, :biggrin:
Quote from: RC on January 25, 2013, 12:19:22 PM
Jesus gave me eternal,life. While he was here on earth he had a trade as carpenter.
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Geebuz's special powers... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvcpQSetMgI)
Quote from: Exterminator on January 25, 2013, 01:14:43 PM
Geebuz's special powers... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvcpQSetMgI)
:rotfl:
This one's better. It's 5 minutes long, but absolutely hilarious.
Don't play it in the office though unless you have earphones.
http://www.youtube.com/v/eSQczYEeB2w
Quote from: RC on January 25, 2013, 12:19:22 PM
Jesus gave me eternal,life. While he was here on earth he had a trade as carpenter.
So you really, really sure, huh. Plus how do you know that he was a carpenter. Doing all of that preaching, walking on water, fishing, breaking bread and dieing on a cross. When did he have the time to build anything. :confused:
Do you have any record of what he built, cause that would be interesting. :rolleyes: :wink:
Don't feed the trolls.......or, I mean Troll.... :yes:
Quote from: Exterminator on January 25, 2013, 01:14:43 PM
Geebuz's special powers... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvcpQSetMgI)
Quote from: Locutus on January 25, 2013, 01:45:36 PM
:rotfl:
This one's better. It's 5 minutes long, but absolutely hilarious.
Don't play it in the office though unless you have earphones.
http://www.youtube.com/v/eSQczYEeB2w
:food24: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: RC on January 25, 2013, 11:11:43 AM
I do not mind the 2%, they have always given me a job and paid real well. A poor man has never given me anything.
Quote from: Olias on January 25, 2013, 11:28:47 AM
Don't you claim to be a Christian? Wasn't Jesus a poor man? Are you saying Jesus never gave you anything?
Quote from: RC on January 25, 2013, 12:19:22 PM
Jesus gave me eternal,life. While he was here on earth he had a trade as carpenter.
I ask again. Wasn't Jesus a poor man? Are you trying to say he was in the "2%" of his time?
Ole' Duke has met poor men that have given me:
1. Perspective
2. Friendship
3. Humility
4. Greater appreciation for what I have
5. Guidance
Best regards,
Duke (it's amazing what folks can give you if you just listen to them) Jupiter
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 25, 2013, 01:52:44 PM
Don't feed the trolls.......or, I mean Troll.... :yes:
Also may I add, don't feed Chicken Hawks, because all you get is chicken shit. :haha: dat true. :laugh:
Quote from: duke jupiter on January 25, 2013, 04:24:33 PM
Ole' Duke has met poor men that have given me:
1. Perspective
2. Friendship
3. Humility
4. Greater appreciation for what I have
5. Guidance
Best regards,
Duke (it's amazing what folks can give you if you just listen to them) Jupiter
What he said.
Quote from: Olias on January 25, 2013, 01:58:31 PM
I ask again. Wasn't Jesus a poor man? Are you trying to say he was in the "2%" of his time?
He very well could have been, we do not know.
Quote from: duke jupiter on January 25, 2013, 04:24:33 PM
Ole' Duke has met poor men that have given me:
1. Perspective
2. Friendship
3. Humility
4. Greater appreciation for what I have
5. Guidance
Best regards,
Duke (it's amazing what folks can give you if you just listen to them) Jupiter
Duke:
You miss the point, yes all of those can be given from a poor man. Poor men do not invest in or start a business that employes people.
Quote from: RC on January 26, 2013, 09:39:59 AM
Duke:
You miss the point, yes all of those can be given from a poor man. Poor men do not invest in or start a business that employes people.
Are saying that the boys that started Microsoft Bill Gates/Paul Allen were not poor and Steve Jobs and Steve Woznizk were not poor when they started Apple Computers. :confused:
You elitist bastards are a pain in the ass. And you say you love Jesus. :haha: You got to be a big fool. :jester:
Quote from: RC on January 26, 2013, 09:39:59 AM
Duke:
You miss the point, yes all of those can be given from a poor man. Poor men do not invest in or start a business that employes people.
Ole' RC, Ole' Duke didn't miss the point Ole' Duke was just makin' a point.
Best regards,
Duke (point--counterpoint--somethings are worth much more than money) Jupiter
The rest of us got your point completely, Duke.
Some won't.
Some just don't want to because it doesn't fit their agendas. :wink:
Quote from: duke jupiter on January 25, 2013, 04:24:33 PM
Ole' Duke has met poor men that have given me:
1. Perspective
2. Friendship
3. Humility
4. Greater appreciation for what I have
5. Guidance
Best regards,
Duke (it's amazing what folks can give you if you just listen to them) Jupiter
:yes: Well said, Duke.
Quote from: followsthewolf on January 26, 2013, 12:51:21 PM
The rest of us got your point completely, Duke.
Some won't.
Some just don't want to because it doesn't fit their agendas. :wink:
:yes:
Quote from: RC on January 26, 2013, 09:37:45 AM
He very well could have been, we do not know.
Weird because doesn't the bible you thump have something in it about the likelihood of a camel passing through the eye of a needle being better than a rich man getting into heaven?
Hypocrite much?
Quote from: Exterminator on January 26, 2013, 08:54:42 PM
Weird because doesn't the bible you thump have something in it about the likelihood of a camel passing through the eye of a needle being better than a rich man getting into heaven?
Hypocrite much?
:yes: :thumbsup:
Quote from: Exterminator on January 26, 2013, 08:54:42 PM
Weird because doesn't the bible you thump have something in it about the likelihood of a camel passing through the eye of a needle being better than a rich man getting into heaven?
Hypocrite much?
Some rich will be in heaven, some will not will be in heaven. Any one that has a dollar more than you is rich and should be punished in your small little mind.
Quote from: RC on January 28, 2013, 12:55:32 PM
Some rich will be in heaven, some will not will be in heaven. Any one that has a dollar more than you is rich and should be punished in your small little mind.
"Judge not lest ye be judged."
Quote from: Palehorse on January 28, 2013, 01:02:24 PM
"Judge not lest ye be judged."
That looks like a good one for Troll and Ex to let sink in and remember.
Quote from: me on January 28, 2013, 03:13:07 PM
That looks like a good one for Troll and Ex to let sink in and remember.
Yep, me with all of my money, all of my toys, all of my RV trailers, owning and flying all of those airplanes and all of the time I spent in Alabama and Florida in the winter. But I am still for the little poor guy and gals to make a good living and not slaves to the Super Rich and Corporations. :yes:
What me worry. Worry about going to heaven. :haha: You know I am an atheist and to an atheist there is no god, no devil, no angels, and definitely no heaven. :yes:
I just don't see how a modern educated person living in the 21St century and after thinking about it could believe in all of the magic, smoke, mirrors and bullshit that is in the bible. :doh: Just who was it that put the snake in the Garden of Eden and who was it that threw Adam and Eve out of the garden. HuH?
Will somebody please say Amen, let us pray. :pray: :preach: :pope: and don't forget the Holy Ghost :ghost: :haha: :haha:
Quote from: RC on January 28, 2013, 12:55:32 PM
Some rich will be in heaven, some will not will be in heaven.
Are you saying your bible is wrong?
Quote from: Exterminator on January 29, 2013, 10:12:06 AM
Are you saying your bible is wrong?
No, it is with out error and 100% right.
Quote from: RC on January 30, 2013, 01:51:19 PM
No, it is with out error and 100% right.
Then rich people could not possibly get into heaven...the bible makes that clear in several passages.