Written in 1984; still applies today...

[Palehorse]

What "desperate level", the food stamp,obama phone babies get it all for free they are living the high life on my dime.  That how obama got his reelection , they voted themselves all the freebies that he will give them. It is the people not  taking anything from the government that need help , not the lowlife pill heads and assorted other misfits, perverts, and ner-do wells that are destroying society.

Exactly the type of diatribe I'd expect from an extremist right winged zealot. I know, you cannot help it. I blame the media propaganda blitz that has served to brainwash and condition you to knee jerk react toward those things your false idols hold dear.

Everything you said has not only been disproven, but shown to be in fact nothing but a pack of lies. Hypothetically though, lets just say they aren't lies. How do you think the majority of the citizens in this country got so desperate? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that manufacturing has been fleeing the shores of this country for several decades? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that medical insurance companies have been running roughshod over the insured for several decades with abject denials of claims, outrageous premium increase, and draconian policies that remove the doctors who see you from the treatment equation? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that the social safety nets that were allowed to be abused by the lethargic minority of society for decades, are suddenly and absolutely needed by an every growing number of citizens in this country that lost jobs they worked at for decades through no fault of their own? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that the financial entities in this country were allowed to swindle billions of dollars from the citizens of this country over the past 3 decades via bait and switch instruments that were enabled by deregulation of the industry decades ago?

Let me answer those questions for you; absolutely NOT! But it IS his job, and the job of congress, to fix all of these problems. And that is not something that can be done in 4 or 8 years, and certainly not something that can be done by saying "NO" to everything and every program designed to do just that; fix this.

That old adage that says, "you're either part of the solution or you are part of the problem" certainly applies in these situations. And abjectly saying "NO" makes congress the biggest part of the problem. It's just that simple.

You want wars? The pay for them. . .

[RC]

Exactly the type of diatribe I'd expect from an extremist right winged zealot. I know, you cannot help it. I blame the media propaganda blitz that has served to brainwash and condition you to knee jerk react toward those things your false idols hold dear.

Everything you said has not only been disproven, but shown to be in fact nothing but a pack of lies. Hypothetically though, lets just say they aren't lies. How do you think the majority of the citizens in this country got so desperate? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that manufacturing has been fleeing the shores of this country for several decades? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that medical insurance companies have been running roughshod over the insured for several decades with abject denials of claims, outrageous premium increase, and draconian policies that remove the doctors who see you from the treatment equation? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that the social safety nets that were allowed to be abused by the lethargic minority of society for decades, are suddenly and absolutely needed by an every growing number of citizens in this country that lost jobs they worked at for decades through no fault of their own? IS it the sitting POTUS's fault that the financial entities in this country were allowed to swindle billions of dollars from the citizens of this country over the past 3 decades via bait and switch instruments that were enabled by deregulation of the industry decades ago?

Let me answer those questions for you; absolutely NOT! But it IS his job, and the job of congress, to fix all of these problems. And that is not something that can be done in 4 or 8 years, and certainly not something that can be done by saying "NO" to everything and every program designed to do just that; fix this.

That old adage that says, "you're either part of the solution or you are part of the problem" certainly applies in these situations. And abjectly saying "NO" makes congress the biggest part of the problem. It's just that simple.

You want wars? The pay for them. . .

Thank you, thank you I am glad that I still have it, "right wing zealot". The point that you will not grasp is, the people on public dole have it far better than the people who work.  And most on the public dole should be thrown off!  I do not know what war has to do with it, but if we threw all the dead beats off the dole we could pay for the wars.

We used to be a strong hardy people in this country, now most are just sheeple waiting their turn at the government feed pan, and are willing to sell their soul for it.

[Exterminator]

I think it's hysterical that we have yet another functional illiterate spewing about 'his' dime...like he pays shit.

[Palehorse]

Thank you, thank you I am glad that I still have it, "right wing zealot". The point that you will not grasp is, the people on public dole have it far better than the people who work.  And most on the public dole should be thrown off!  I do not know what war has to do with it, but if we threw all the dead beats off the dole we could pay for the wars.

We used to be a strong hardy people in this country, now most are just sheeple waiting their turn at the government feed pan, and are willing to sell their soul for it.

Seriously? You think people that currently are forced to take advantage of the social safety net somehow have it "better"? Better than what? Better than who? Are your standards surrounding quality of life seriously that low?! 

[Exterminator]

Are your standards surrounding quality of life seriously that low?! 

Dude...he lives in West Virginia.

[The Troll]

Thank you, thank you I am glad that I still have it, "right wing zealot". The point that you will not grasp is, the people on public dole have it far better than the people who work.  And most on the public dole should be thrown off!  I do not know what war has to do with it, but if we threw all the dead beats off the dole we could pay for the wars.

We used to be a strong hardy people in this country, now most are just sheeple waiting their turn at the government feed pan, and are willing to sell their soul for it.

  Yep Meathead, we have people in prison who has it better than the poor minimum wage working people working 40 hours a week.   Madoff and prisoners get a cot, three meals a day and free medical care and all of the television they want.  People living the good life off of your dime.     

  Just like Henry and "ME" you don't know shit.    Give me a break. 

[Palehorse]

Dude...he lives in West Virginia.

So he claims. . . Ignorance knows no bounds though. . .

[duke jupiter]

Dude...he lives in West Virginia.

By way of Indiana me thinks.

Best regards,
Duke (Montani Semper  Liberi) Jupiter

[followsthewolf]

You might have something there, duke.

[duke jupiter]

You might have something there, duke.

[RC]

I think it's hysterical that we have yet another functional illiterate spewing about 'his' dime...like he pays shit.

There you go again, do you know what I pay?  Just like a liberal run off with out the facts.  Yes, the people at the public feed pan have it far better.  Just come to this area and you can see them at any turn.  For example:

free medical
free food
reduced electric  service payments
free cell phone
some get cash payments
take advantage of church and missions
Steal any thing not bolted down

[Palehorse]

There you go again, do you know what I pay?  Just like a liberal run off with out the facts.  Yes, the people at the public feed pan have it far better.  Just come to this area and you can see them at any turn.  For example:

free medical
free food
reduced electric  service payments
free cell phone
some get cash payments
take advantage of church and missions
Steal any thing not bolted down

Your position sure makes an awful lot of assumptions.

Free medical - Really? So the fact they may have worked for 30 years, paying into the system the entire time, and became disabled and could no longer work, or lost their jobs through no fault of their own is irrelevant?

Reduced Electric/Service payments - (Above applies here as well) What would you have happen to these people? Should they live in a hole in the ground, under a bridge, or perhaps in an abandoned home somewhere and be discovered in the spring as the human popsicle they have become thaws and decays?

Free Cell Phone - Proven a lie within the context in which you use it, previously.

Cash Payments - (See Free Medical)

Take advantage of church and missions - So now the purveyors of the great Sky Daddy are suddenly being victimized? You really do NOT want to go there with me. . .

Steal anything not bolted down - So now every single thief or social miscreant is a welfare cheat too? Really? You need to get out more and stop reading and accepting everything you read and hear as factual in basis.

In fact, I'd say your position smacks of the sour grapes you hold over your desire to be one of those individuals you envy. If so, why not step in front of a forklift at work and get permanently disabled so you can join them? Ludicrous and cruel suggestion you say? Well, no more so than what you are suggesting with your position!

[Exterminator]

There you go again, do you know what I pay?

Then tell us, asshole and tell us what you do to get that money; put up or shut up.  Typical conservative lying piece of shit...

[RC]

Then tell us, asshole and tell us what you do to get that money; put up or shut up.  Typical conservative lying piece of shit...

Typical example of a liberal  post when confront with the truth.  Call names use foul language repeat as needed.

[RC]

Your position sure makes an awful lot of assumptions.

Free medical - Really? So the fact they may have worked for 30 years, paying into the system the entire time, and became disabled and could no longer work, or lost their jobs through no fault of their own is irrelevant?

Reduced Electric/Service payments - (Above applies here as well) What would you have happen to these people? Should they live in a hole in the ground, under a bridge, or perhaps in an abandoned home somewhere and be discovered in the spring as the human popsicle they have become thaws and decays?

Free Cell Phone - Proven a lie within the context in which you use it, previously.

Cash Payments - (See Free Medical)

Take advantage of church and missions - So now the purveyors of the great Sky Daddy are suddenly being victimized? You really do NOT want to go there with me. . .

Steal anything not bolted down - So now every single thief or social miscreant is a welfare cheat too? Really? You need to get out more and stop reading and accepting everything you read and hear as factual in basis.

In fact, I'd say your position smacks of the sour grapes you hold over your desire to be one of those individuals you envy. If so, why not step in front of a forklift at work and get permanently disabled so you can join them? Ludicrous and cruel suggestion you say? Well, no more so than what you are suggesting with your position!

You have no grasp of reality.  The people that sparked my comments are young able people in my area.  People that need help are no problem.  Can not resist resorting to lying just like any liberal.  No "sour grapes", just think there should be more people pulling the wagon than riding in it.