I can remember a time when this forum had some good times with some great dialogue......
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 18, 2012, 06:23:11 PM
I can remember a time when this forum had some good times with some great dialogue......
When did you stop? :stop: I sure haven't seen anything come out of your mouth what was brilliant. :yes: :trustme: Sure thin skinned aren't you Henry. :biggrin:
All I have asked is some answers from you about your sweetheart, the Golden Mitten. But, oh no, you don't answer question about your party. Do you? :wink: :smile:
Not thin skinned, just tired of the same ol same ol. POINTLESS.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 19, 2012, 09:13:44 AM
Not thin skinned, just tired of the same ol same ol. POINTLESS.
You're right on half of it. I'm tired of your same O, same O Republican brainless bullshit to. I want this country to be great again. You and your Republicans want to take us back to the 1800's where the super rich like Rockefeller and corporations like Standard Oil and the robber barons ruled.
I do think you are thinskined and a little slooooow. :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on July 18, 2012, 06:28:25 PM
When did you stop? :stop: I sure haven't seen anything come out of your mouth what was brilliant. :yes: :trustme: Sure thin skinned aren't you Henry. :biggrin:
All I have asked is some answers from you about your sweetheart, the Golden Mitten. But, oh no, you don't answer question about your party. Do you? :wink: :smile:
When name calling and and lack of respect for others opinions became the norm here.
Quote from: Anne on July 19, 2012, 10:39:04 AM
When name calling and and lack of respect for others opinions became the norm here.
Anne, when are you going to wake up too the fact that I don't care what you think. I remember when I first came on the Zone when you said. "I'm not a Republican." Where you lying then or now. :rolleyes:
Point proven.
Quote from: The Troll on July 19, 2012, 11:21:50 AM
Anne, when are you going to wake up too the fact that I don't care what you think. I remember when I first came on the Zone when you said. "I'm not a Republican." Where you lying then or now. :rolleyes:
Ever heard of an independent Troll? A person can be an independent and still not agree with the current administrations policies but that doesn't make them a republican. Of course you'd rather name call than respond to people in an adult manner.
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Anne on July 19, 2012, 12:14:31 PM
Point proven.
I thought a old pinched lipped Republican could come up with something smarter to say. :haha: Point proven. :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on July 19, 2012, 10:38:20 PM
I thought a old pinched lipped Republican could come up with something smarter to say. :haha: Point proven. :biggrin:
Like YOU just did?... :roll eyes:
You need so new material..... :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 20, 2012, 08:22:32 AM
Like YOU just did?... :roll eyes:
You need so new material..... :yes:
Not only do you need a complete make over and new material, you need a brain transplant. A turkey brain :turk: would be better than what you have. :rotfl:
Quote from: The Troll on July 20, 2012, 01:57:24 PM
Not only do you need a complete make over and new material, you need a brain transplant. A turkey brain :turk: would be better than what you have. :rotfl:
I'd say that's about a 5th grade level reply.
Quote from: me on July 21, 2012, 12:40:41 AM
I'd say that's about a 5th grade level reply.
I didn't know you were a school teacher. Grading people. That is as believeable as you saying that you're an Independent. GIVE ME A BREAK. :rolleyes:
Quote from: The Troll on July 21, 2012, 09:51:26 AM
I didn't know you were a school teacher. Grading people. That is as believeable as you saying that you're an Independent. GIVE ME A BREAK. :rolleyes:
If the shoe fits, and it does, wear it Trolly baby.
Quote from: me on July 21, 2012, 11:09:06 AM
If the shoe fits, and it does, wear it Trolly baby.
Go ahead and give me a little bit of your Republican dance. :pink: :pink: :kitty: :pink: :pink: Here I go again. :haha: :haha: I just can't help myself when it come to Me and Henry. :haha: AAAAAAAAAAH sorry I needed a little break. :haha: :haha:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 18, 2012, 06:23:11 PM
I can remember a time when this forum had some good times with some great dialogue......
Quote from: Anne on July 19, 2012, 10:39:04 AM
When name calling and and lack of respect for others opinions became the norm here.
I know this shouldn't bother me any longer, but as this was once my 'baby' it annoys the hell out of me. :icon_evil:
1) A forum, properly run as this one still seems to be, isn't anything but a reflection of the members themselves. The onus of 'good times' and 'great dialogue' lays completely with the member's own attitudes, actions, and abilities to generate those things.
2) Those things do not mean they only exist when everyone agrees with you. In fact, agreement should only come through the weight of cogent argument and people being adult enough to recognize adherence to a untenable opinion/position/viewpoint and a losing argument and then to change their minds.
3) I don't know how many times over the years I've pointed out that 'name calling' is not necessarily 'name calling'*, and that not all 'opinions' deserve respect.*
* a) stupid: (http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/stupid)
1.
lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2.
characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.
3.
tediously dull, especially due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.
4.
annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.
5.
in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue. stupid: (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/stupid)
a : slow of mind : obtuse b : given to unintelligent decisions or acts : acting in an unintelligent or careless manner c : lacking intelligence or reason : brutish
2
: dulled in feeling or sensation : torpid <still stupid from the sedative>
3
: marked by or resulting from unreasoned thinking or acting : senseless <a stupid decision>
4
a : lacking interest or point <a stupid event> b : vexatious, exasperating <the stupid car won't start> As defined, the use of the term
stupid will be, more often than not, a factual descriptor rather than 'name calling'.
*b) We know many people hold strange, detrimental, and often downright ridiculous 'opinions'. For an (extreme) example: some people hold the opinion that to kill another is a reasonable proposition, yet we enact laws against it. Should we 'respect' their 'opinion' and do away with those laws and adjust our collective mindset to embrace their 'opinion'?
4) This area is/was called the Rough House for a reason. I always loved it back in the day when people bitched about responses here but could never quite manage to not reply and stay out of this area of the forum if they didn't like the way it worked.
I don't know how many threads I've started in other areas that wind up here completely without my instigation.
But then, I always seem to expect far to much out of people. :rolleyes:
Someone please call me a 'Waaaaaaaah-bulance'! :biggrin:
I still stand by what I said....it has become too much divided, with some "hatred" involved......I am not innocent, but have become tired of it....and at one time, I was able to work through it...but, no longer have the desire...this is just MY opinion...and as you can tell I am STILL hanging around...so, I have nobody to blame but myslelf... :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 22, 2012, 04:28:05 PM
I am not innocent, but have become tired of it....
Aw, maybe you should put on your big girl panties and take your Midol. :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Exterminator on July 22, 2012, 04:36:58 PM
Aw, maybe you should put on your big girl panties and take your Midol. :icon_twisted:
Could/would you stick around and put up with several people calling you names and bad mouthing you because you don't share their opinion on things like ya'll do HH and me or would you take your big girl panties and Midol and flee?
When the trolls showed up in the past -- mostly before you got here, none of us took our panties/Midol and ran.
We're still here.
You're still a newcomer with no concept whatsoever where this forum evolved from and what the history is.
That's why you are so irrelevant.
You seem to think you have come up with novel ideas in debate. :rolleyes:
Quote from: followsthewolf on July 22, 2012, 05:26:43 PM
When the trolls showed up in the past -- mostly before you got here, none of us took our panties/Midol and ran.
We're still here.
You're still a newcomer with no concept whatsoever where this forum evolved from and what the history is.
That's why you are so irrelevant.
You seem to think you have come up with novel ideas in debate. :rolleyes:
Been here longer than you think FTW I just didn't post much at first is all. I'd say the first 2 or 3yrs I was here I may have posted a grand total of 10 posts and that may be over estimating.
Then you're just more ignorant than I first imagined.
Quote from: followsthewolf on July 22, 2012, 07:30:47 PM
Then you're just more ignorant than I first imagined.
Mostly stayed in the games area and really didn't read much more of the forum. I was only on the 'puter in the evenings at that time and had other things going on, it was pre-retirement days. Why would it make me ignorant anyway just because I've been here quite sometime and just started exploring and posting in different areas the last couple of years or so?
Quote from: me on July 22, 2012, 07:50:47 PM
Mostly stayed in the games area and really didn't read much more of the forum. I was only on the 'puter in the evenings at that time and had other things going on, it was pre-retirement days. Why would it make me ignorant anyway just because I've been here quite sometime and just started exploring and posting in different areas the last couple of years or so?
Sure haven't broadened your horizons or you intelligence in politics in the United States have you. You never go and reach out for anything more than the Republican talking points, blogs, and the lies of the Republican Dirty Tricks Team. Have you?
But, after the 26,000 post you have made, you sure have make up for lost time with your blatherings. :yes: :rolleyes: :razz:
Quote from: The Troll on July 22, 2012, 08:20:10 PM
Sure haven't broadened your horizons or you intelligence in politics in the United States have you. You never go and reach out for anything more than the Republican talking points, blogs, and the lies of the Republican Dirty Tricks Team. Have you?
But, after the 26,000 post you have made, you sure have make up for lost time with your blatherings. :yes: :rolleyes: :razz:
Guess I spent more time in last one wins than I thought....LOL Just different views on things Troll, just different views. Like looking at a glass of water that's only half full you may think it's half empty and want to argue the point with me and we'd both be technically correct but you'd argue that I was wrong just because I didn't see it the same way you did.
Quote from: me on July 22, 2012, 07:50:47 PM
Mostly stayed in the games area and really didn't read much more of the forum. I was only on the 'puter in the evenings at that time and had other things going on, it was pre-retirement days. Why would it make me ignorant anyway just because I've been here quite sometime and just started exploring and posting in different areas the last couple of years or so?
You must be a sock.
Then you didn't pay much attention when you were around.
And don't act like you're the only one who has spent long hours working.
I still do.
Quote from: followsthewolf on July 22, 2012, 08:44:47 PM
Then you didn't pay much attention when you were around.
And don't act like you're the only one who has spent long hours working.
I still do.
Nope, I didn't just went to whatever game I happened to be playing at the moment and left. Wasn't much interested in anything else then except relaxing out on the patio with a fire, playing music, working in the yard or, in the winter, watching a movie after a long day, or putting together puzzles. Some days I didn't even turn the 'puter on.
Quote from: followsthewolf on July 22, 2012, 05:26:43 PM
When the trolls showed up in the past -- mostly before you got here, none of us took our panties/Midol and ran.
We're still here.
You're still a newcomer with no concept whatsoever where this forum evolved from and what the history is.
That's why you are so irrelevant.
You seem to think you have come up with novel ideas in debate. :rolleyes:
Are you talking to me? I have been around THIS forum since the beginning and the Hey Martha for three or four years before I came here...What NOVEL ideas have I suggested? All I am saying is, after 10 years of debating the SAME people, it is getting kind of old...and yet, we all stay here and spout the same ol same ol....
Here is what I am getting at............WHY? Why do we stay here? I have been asking myself this question for a long time....I come here nearly every day....it is like "crack" on the internet...
I know darn well what the dialogue is going to be...we have had basically the same 10 or 12 members for the last 10 years....who is going to take which side of an issue, who is going to be an ass....and like I said, I am no different. I am not pointing fingers at anyone, just asking the question....why are we here?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 23, 2012, 08:06:15 AM
I know darn well what the dialogue is going to be...we have had basically the same 10 or 12 members for the last 10 years....who is going to take which side of an issue...
Well, it isn't rocket science: the same few will parrot the opinions of their favorite right-wing shock jock or Faux news while the majority will form positions using logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence. :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2012, 08:39:12 AM
Well, it isn't rocket science: the same few will parrot the opinions of their favorite right-wing shock jock or Faux news while the majority will form positions using logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence. :biggrin:
and I could have on a hundred bucks on a bet that you would have said something as you just did....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 23, 2012, 08:06:15 AM
Are you talking to me? I have been around THIS forum since the beginning and the Hey Martha for three or four years before I came here...What NOVEL ideas have I suggested? All I am saying is, after 10 years of debating the SAME people, it is getting kind of old...and yet, we all stay here and spout the same ol same ol....
Here is what I am getting at............WHY? Why do we stay here? I have been asking myself this question for a long time....I come here nearly every day....it is like "crack" on the internet...
I know darn well what the dialogue is going to be...we have had basically the same 10 or 12 members for the last 10 years....who is going to take which side of an issue, who is going to be an ass....and like I said, I am no different. I am not pointing fingers at anyone, just asking the question....why are we here?
"I've been on this forum since it start". Henry, this isn't a union shop, you don't have any seniority. :doh: :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on July 23, 2012, 08:48:05 AM
"I've been on this forum since it start". Henry, this isn't a union shop, you don't have any seniority. :doh: :haha:
I bet if you had your way, we would all belong to the formum union and HAVE to give a membership fee for some higher ups to go play golf and come up with more rules on our dime.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2012, 08:39:12 AM
Well, it isn't rocket science: the same few will parrot the opinions of their favorite right-wing shock jock or Faux news while the majority will form positions using logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidencebased on what the mainstream media and some actors and actresses say. :biggrin:
There I fixed it for you. :razz:
Quote from: me on July 23, 2012, 10:27:31 AM
...on what the mainstream media...
And by mainstream media, you mean conservatives?
Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2012, 10:52:04 AM
And by mainstream media, you mean conservatives?
NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, and CBS
Quote from: me on July 23, 2012, 12:30:46 PM
NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, and CBS
I keep hearing that Fox has higher ratings than all those outlets combined. Wouldn't that make Fox "mainstream media?"
Quote from: Olias on July 23, 2012, 12:35:47 PM
I keep hearing that Fox has higher ratings than all those outlets combined. Wouldn't that make Fox "mainstream media?"
No, no Henry, it is the lamestream media. :yes:
Quote from: Olias on July 23, 2012, 12:35:47 PM
I keep hearing that Fox has higher ratings than all those outlets combined. Wouldn't that make Fox "mainstream media?"
Nice try.
Quote from: me on July 23, 2012, 12:30:46 PM
NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, and CBS
And who owns and/or controls these media outlets?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 23, 2012, 08:51:19 AM
I bet if you had your way, we would all belong to the formum union and HAVE to give a membership fee for some higher ups to go play golf and come up with more rules on our dime.
You're right Henry. :doh: Like the CEO and the Super Rich don't use stock holder money and our tax dollars to play golf and have lavish parties on our dollars. Right Henry. :confused: Just like I have said so many times, Henry you don't know shit. :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on July 23, 2012, 12:57:26 PM
You're right Henry. :doh: Like the CEO and the Super Rich don't use stock holder money and our tax dollars to play golf and have lavish parties on our dollars. Right Henry. :confused: Just like I have said so many times, Henry you don't know shit. :haha:
You make a statement like that and HH don't know shit? Well, you might be right in a sense since Obama plays golf quite frequently and when he golfs with CEO's he probably says one or two things about business and pays for it all with our tax dollars. :wink:
Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2012, 12:48:24 PM
And who owns and/or controls these media outlets?
Okay let's look:
NBC, owned by GE. AND....GE and Obama are connected at the hip....GE gave $500,000 to Obama his last election and Jeffery Immelt NOW has a job working for Obama as the Chairperson of the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness
NBC own MSNBC too..
CNN is owned by Time Warner...who gave $624,000 to to Obama his last election, former Time Warner CEO Richard Parsons is an economic adviser for Obama.
Sumner Redstone who is the majority owner of CBS and Viacom.......gave generously to Clintons, Kennedy, and the democrat party.
This was pretty easy to figure out....
Uh, yeah, Henry, these corporations give lots of money to both sides to hedge their bets so that they get what they want whoever wins. Are you suggesting, even for a moment that GE, as an example, is anything but one of the most ultra-conservative corporations on the planet? If you are, you're either delusional of just plain stupid.
As I pointed out to you the other day, your 'liberal media' claims have been proven in several studies on the subject and are really nothing more than the claim you make when you don't have anything else to try to discredit the news that show how absolutely fucked up your guys are...pretty much the same way you use 'policy' as an excuse for your obvious racist leanings.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2012, 03:14:59 PM
Uh, yeah, Henry, these corporations give lots of money to both sides to hedge their bets so that they get what they want whoever wins. Are you suggesting, even for a moment that GE, as an example, is anything but one of the most ultra-conservative corporations on the planet? If you are, you're either delusional of just plain stupid.
As I pointed out to you the other day, your 'liberal media' claims have been proven in several studies on the subject and are really nothing more than the claim you make when you don't have anything else to try to discredit the news that show how absolutely fucked up your guys are...pretty much the same way you use 'policy' as an excuse for your obvious racist leanings.
whatever.......that is ALWAYS your easy response as to when I have proved you wrong on something.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 23, 2012, 03:39:47 PM
whatever.......that is ALWAYS your easy response as to when I have proved you wrong on something.
You proved no one wrong on anything. Ever. Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and actually go look for the studies on whether the media has, by and large, a liberal or conservative slant.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2012, 10:52:04 AM
And by mainstream media, you mean conservatives?
Quote from: me on July 23, 2012, 12:30:46 PM
NBC, ABC, MSNBC, CNN, and CBS
Quote from: Olias on July 23, 2012, 12:35:47 PM
I keep hearing that Fox has higher ratings than all those outlets combined. Wouldn't that make Fox "mainstream media?"
Quote from: me on July 23, 2012, 12:43:16 PM
Nice try.
What kind of answer is that? I asked a pertinent question.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2012, 04:00:02 PM
You proved no one wrong on anything. Ever. Maybe you should pull your head out of your ass and actually go look for the studies on whether the media has, by and large, a liberal or conservative slant.
WHOSE STUDIES?
I did a very simple one....I looked at WHO owns different media outlets and looked at their political contributions and who they supported...
NBC, IS owned by GE. AND....GE and Obama are connected at the hip....GE gave $500,000 to Obama his last election and Jeffery Immelt NOW has a job working for Obama as the Chairperson of the Council on Jobs and Competitiveness
NBC own MSNBC too..
CNN is owned by Time Warner...who gave $624,000 to to Obama his last election, former Time Warner CEO Richard Parsons is an economic adviser for Obama.
Sumner Redstone who is the majority owner of CBS and Viacom.......gave generously to Clintons, Kennedy, and the democrat party.
You seem to think all you have to do is SAY anything you want or post anything you want, claiming you read an article saying this or that...or even IF you post a link, you assume THAT is the truth, and all others is not...
If it does not fit YOU agenda, you look for one that does.
and THEN it is the truth and all others is lies.....
I really don't care one way or the other........... I know the truth and I am not trying to prove anything to you....
beleive what you want. vote for who you want....
I don't care.
And how much did those companies give to republicans? Or is that unimportant in your little pea brain?
Quote from: me on July 23, 2012, 02:16:10 PM
You make a statement like that and HH don't know shit? Well, you might be right in a sense since Obama plays golf quite frequently and when he golfs with CEO's he probably says one or two things about business and pays for it all with our tax dollars. :wink:
Remember when George W. said that he wasn't going to play golf while they were bring the boy's dead bodies back home from Iraq. :yes:
Remember how George W. wouldn't let the news cameras take picture of their dead bodies under the American Flag. :yes:
Remember when George w. broke that promise of playing golf and after he said a few words to the cameras he said, "Watch me drive this ball." :yes:
Don't talk about Obama playing golf. :no:
Remember how Obama brought the boys and girls from Iraq alive and had bin Laden killed. :yeah:
Did you remember that, Old Paint. :kiss:
Quote from: The Troll on July 23, 2012, 04:17:26 PM
Remember when George W. said that he wasn't going to play golf while they were bring the boy's dead bodies back home from Iraq. :yes:
Remember how George W. wouldn't let the news cameras take picture of their dead bodies under the American Flag. :yes:
Remember when George w. broke that promise of playing golf and after he said a few words to the cameras he said, "Watch me drive this ball." :yes:
Don't talk about Obama playing golf. :no:
Remember how Obama brought the boys and girls from Iraq alive and had bin Laden killed. :yeah:
Did you remember that, Old Paint. :kiss:
I remember that the video of Bush was fake and that he played golf less in 8yrs than Obama has in 3 1/2 and that Obama has put our troops in harms way by setting a withdrawal date to score political points instead of doing it on the sly.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2012, 04:16:54 PM
And how much did those companies give to republicans? Or is that unimportant in your little pea brain?
GE gave $135,450 to Mitt and GE gave $500,000 to Obama - - In 2010 the dems got an average $5.3 K in contributions and $3.8 k to repubs in congress...
Time Warner gave less than $7,250 to Mitt and $624,000 to to Obama...during the last election.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2012, 04:16:54 PM
And how much did those companies give to republicans? Or is that unimportant in your little pea brain?
EX. You know that these companies wouldn't give a dime to the Republican Party. What in hell is wrong with you. You been taking Henry smart pills. :haha:
The TV owners are just like a guy I knew that ran a high stakes poker game on Columbus Ave across from General Motors in Anderson Indiana. Each year in his poker den he threw two parties with all of the booze they could drink and all of the food they could eat. One for the Republicans and one for the Democrats politicians and the police department. They ate, drank and played poker. He covered both sides and he stayed open for years. He also give money each year to the Republicans and the Democrat parties. :yes: :biggrin:
One time they had a big gambling raid in Anderson, the Anderson and Madison cops were out in full force. Raiding, Legions posts, the bars, the private clubs and I asked my friend if he had got hit. He laughed and said, I got a call from a friend on the police department two day before the raids and I cleaned it out and made it look the place was a storage place. :haha: Henry you surly don't think corporations play fair do you. :doh: :haha:
Quote from: me on July 23, 2012, 04:26:18 PM
I remember that the video of Bush was fake and that he played golf less in 8yrs than Obama has in 3 1/2 and that Obama has put our troops in harms way by setting a withdrawal date to score political points instead of doing it on the sly.
Where in hell did you come up with those lies. Prove it Tonto. Prove it, prove it, prove it. Really prove it and not from Fox News. That's bullshit. :puke:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 23, 2012, 04:35:28 PM
GE gave $135,450 to Mitt and GE gave $500,000 to Obama - - In 2010 the dems got an average $5.3 K in contributions and $3.8 k to repubs in congress...
Time Warner gave less than $7,250 to Mitt and $624,000 to to Obama...during the last election.
Newsflash: Mitt wasn't in the last presidential election.
Quote from: Olias on July 23, 2012, 04:07:17 PM
What kind of answer is that? I asked a pertinent question.
This is especially interesting because these same people claim that (stupid) Fux has the highest ratings when it suits their diatribe.
Quote from: me on July 23, 2012, 04:26:18 PM
I remember that the video of Bush was fake and that he played golf less in 8yrs than Obama has in 3 1/2 and that Obama has put our troops in harms way by setting a withdrawal date to score political points instead of doing it on the sly.
How about when George W. and his family and his friends took the big 747 to Texas 360 times. How about that. Funny Girl. :kiss:
Quote from: The Troll on July 23, 2012, 06:12:24 PM
How about when George W. and his family and his friends took the big 747 to Texas 360 times. How about that. Funny Girl. :kiss:
Like you say...prove it little man.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 23, 2012, 06:02:21 PM
Newsflash: Mitt wasn't in the last presidential election.
You got him by the bullocks on that one. Oh, ho my god, :haha: :haha: :rotfl: :rotfl: Really nice EX. :yeah: :salute: :tiphat:
Quote from: Olias on July 23, 2012, 04:07:17 PM
What kind of answer is that? I asked a pertinent question.
The very kind of "dialog" this topic was created to complain about in the first place, it appears to me.
Most of us have been here 6 years; some longer some shorter. You can tell who the contributors are by the stars under their names.
If you want to complain about others it is best to look inwardly first. If you expect something from others than give it first.
Quote from: Palehorse on July 23, 2012, 09:21:06 PM
Most of us have been here 6 years.....
:spooked:
Time flies doesn't it? Are we having fun yet? ;D
Plus that doesn't count all of the time that some of us contributed to various incarnations of this forum before it landed in this current venue.
So it's been a lot longer than a mere six years for some of us. :yes:
Quote from: Locutus on July 23, 2012, 09:44:12 PM
Plus that doesn't count all of the time that some of us contributed to various incarnations of this forum before it landed in this current venue.
So it's been a lot longer than a mere six years for some of us. :yes:
I'm thinking I have been doing this for about 9 years now....and most of that time is with most of you guys.....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 23, 2012, 10:17:27 PM
I'm thinking I have been doing this for about 9 years now....and most of that time is with most of you guys.....
I think all of us met - at least those of us from different states - on the CNHI Hey Martha forums. I joined those back in August or September of 2004. Not sure about the rest of you.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 23, 2012, 10:17:27 PM
I'm thinking I have been doing this for about 9 years now....and most of that time is with most of you guys.....
Does it still count if you lie about what you posted to the Hey Martha Forums because you have done so here several times. Some of us remember you well from your other incarnation. What was is you called yourself on Hey Martha again?
I was on the Hey Martha forum and when they closed it down I came here. I think it was about four years ago. My name was Anne there too. It got pretty nasty at the last.
Quote from: Palehorse on July 23, 2012, 09:21:06 PM
The very kind of "dialog" this topic was created to complain about in the first place, it appears to me.
Most of us have been here 6 years; some longer some shorter. You can tell who the contributors are by the stars under their names.
If you want to complain about others it is best to look inwardly first. If you expect something from others than give it first.
By chance are you talking about feed back plus or minus. It is a phony way to evaluate anyone. especially when there is a concerted effort by people on this forum to drive the Troll off of the Unknown Zone. It doesn't mean a thing and it didn't work. :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on July 24, 2012, 10:34:34 AM
By chance are you talking about feed back plus or minus. It is a phony way to evaluate anyone. especially when there is a concerted effort by people on this forum to drive the Troll off of the Unknown Zone. It doesn't mean a thing and it didn't work. :yes: :biggrin:
They're referring to the way we post to each other which is not very friendly or nice a lot of the time.
Quote from: The Troll on July 24, 2012, 10:34:34 AM
By chance are you talking about feed back plus or minus. It is a phony way to evaluate anyone. especially when there is a concerted effort by people on this forum to drive the Troll off of the Unknown Zone. It doesn't mean a thing and it didn't work. :yes: :biggrin:
No. I am talking about the way some complain about the way they are responded to, when in fact they themselves adopted the very response style they are complaining about years ago. If you want others to treat you with respect you must be willing to do the same; first.
And first, respect yourself. Do the research to educate yourself on a topic you wish to speak to. While its okay to read whatever source you want to research, once you've begun forming an opinion on a subject then it is time to research your sources for the information. Are they accredited, validated, and most importantly, are they being truthful surrounding the conclusions they draw? What's their angle surrounding their approach? IS the information available via an accredited piece of work that is peer reviewed and published? And link to it.
If you use toilet paper as proof expect it to be used for its intended purpose. Support your views with unbiased and accredited information and you'll find the dialog goes much more smoothly. Expect to be challenged and be prepared to defend your position.
If you cannot do this without resorting to playground tactics, then perhaps you should re-think your intended course of action. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on July 24, 2012, 11:16:23 AM
No. I am talking about the way some complain about the way they are responded to, when in fact they themselves adopted the very response style they are complaining about years ago. If you want others to treat you with respect you must be willing to do the same; first.
Yes, some people love to dish it out but oh how they cry when it is returned to them. :cry: :cry: With the Troll, I don't' let my feeling get in the way of facts and logic.
It's like my feeling about abortion. I don't like to see it, I wish there was some way to eliminate it. I like to see our young women not get pregnant until they are at least 21 years of age. I want all women who don't want to get pregnant stay pregnant free.
But, I sure don't want any government federal or state passing laws to take women's right to not carry a fetus to term if they don't want to. And beyond a shadow of a doubt I sure don't want any go to hell religious group saying that the women will.
Just like I believe that the Republican Party is the last party to put back into office. Their past record for the last 30 years that the GOP is 100% for the rich, corporations and they sure don't believe in the best interest of the sick, poor, downtrodden and the middle class people in America.
The GOP is pushing for and getting a Oligarchy and Corporatocracy America. :trustme: I want my America back where workers are free from scab Republican laws and Republican pro rich people's laws. :flag: :salute:
Quote from: The Troll on July 24, 2012, 10:34:34 AM
By chance are you talking about feed back plus or minus. It is a phony way to evaluate anyone. especially when there is a concerted effort by people on this forum to drive the Troll off of the Unknown Zone. It doesn't mean a thing and it didn't work. :yes: :biggrin:
Just to set the record straight, I have never, EVER put forth one ounce of effort to drive you off the zone Troll....I have ZERO problem with you...as far as that goes, I don't care to have anyone "off' the zone.......that has never been a concern of mine....not my place to do so....anybody is welcome as far as I am concerned.....
For some reason it was okay to drive a recent person from the forum, because they "may" have been one of two people........even THEN, I did not care....they was not harming anyone.
My only thought was, that it is a shame, when there is a constant attack on a personal level at any person....I don't like playing that game, and have, in the past, got caught up in that....that is for 3rd graders in my opinion.
I know this is a unmoderated spot, and people can do what they want..........and I am still here after 6 years.....just saying it is not as much fun as it once was....that is it.
being attacked for my Christian belief on a personal level, when I have NEVER, thrown out my Christian beliefs at anyone on here...has crossed the line for me on a particular person. Other than that, fire away! :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 24, 2012, 12:51:07 PM
For some reason it was okay to drive a recent person from the forum, because they "may" have been one of two people........even THEN, I did not care....they was not harming anyone.
The rules about multiple identities are clear.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 24, 2012, 02:45:59 PM
The rules about multiple identities are clear.
I know, but there was no REAL proof, and there was NO HARM.
That's kind of strange, coming from a conservative.
The law is the law, and it is to be obeyed, right?
If you don't like the law, you work to get it changed, but you don't violate it, right?
And, if it had been a liberal-leaning person who did that, it would have been ok, right?
And, the forums are not owned by anyone, right?
So no one has the right to create rules which we must obey to be able to post on that forum, right?
Quote from: followsthewolf on July 24, 2012, 03:22:48 PM
That's kind of strange, coming from a conservative.
The law is the law, and it is to be obeyed, right?
If you don't like the law, you work to get it changed, but you don't violate it, right?
And, if it had been a liberal-leaning person who did that, it would have been ok, right?
And, the forums are not owned by anyone, right?
So no one has the right to create rules which we must obey to be able to post on that forum, right?
Please don't get too philisophical, I know it is not my forum, and somebody else gets to set the rules....I was just making an observation, how another member did not like this person, so they harrassed them until they/he/she went away....even though the person may have been outside the TOS....had this member not made an issue of them, they would have still been here....
this person only added to the humor, in my opinion....something we lack sometimes.
Not wanting to argue, just making an observation.....the bottom line is, YOU are right.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 24, 2012, 03:35:37 PM
this person only added to the humor, in my opinion....something we lack sometimes.
So you think that person was respectful and contributed to the good times and great dialogue you're lamenting in this topic?
Quote from: Exterminator on July 24, 2012, 03:50:31 PM
So you think that person was respectful and contributed to the good times and great dialogue you're lamenting in this topic?
He/she was just as respectful as many others on here.....and, because of it all, we lost one person, who was NOT political and was fun.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 24, 2012, 03:58:12 PM
He/she was just as respectful as many others on here.....and, because of it all, we lost one person, who was NOT political and was fun.
I sure didn't throw Sir Likestobitchalot off the Zone. I would like to have damn fast back. But Sir Likestobitchalot and Night Hawk "Squawk" were just out to bring the Right Wing bullshit to the Forum and noting else. I glad they are gone. I think the group here on the Zone handled them very well. :wink: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on July 24, 2012, 06:46:34 PM
I sure didn't throw Sir Likestobitchalot off the Zone. I would like to have damn fast back. But Sir Likestobitchalot and Night Hawk "Squawk" were just out to bring the Right Wing bullshit to the Forum and noting else. I glad they are gone. I think the group here on the Zone handled them very well. :wink: :biggrin:
There is a difference between disagreeing with someone and being downright rude and some on here are just downright rude to those who disagree with them. Yes, HH or I fire back sometimes then we're told how rude we are. What kind of crap is that?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 23, 2012, 08:06:15 AM
...and yet, we all stay here and spout the same ol same ol....
Here is what I am getting at............WHY? Why do we stay here? I have been asking myself this question for a long time....I come here nearly every day....it is like "crack" on the internet...
.... just asking the question....why are we here?
I have some input on that subject. I haven't posted much on this thread, but I've had a busy few days and have been doing some reading. I view the Zone, probably like we all do, as kind of a coffee shop. You go into a coffee shop every day for coffee; sometimes you go multiple times per day. But after a while, you get to know people, and they become familiar to you. You're not going to agree with everyone in the coffee shop all the time, of course, but if you stop going to the coffee shop for a bit, you tend to miss it.
Also, although the views and opinions of the people in the shop may not change, current events are always changing. The world is an infinitely interesting place after all, and it never stays the same. There are always new things going on to discuss. New elections, wars, tragedies, deaths and illnesses, the cosmos, UFOs, sports, the MIAMI HEAT!! :razz:, etc. The list is endless.
Although I don't always agree with all of you on the board, I would miss the interaction if I were ever to leave for any long period of time. I've often found myself thinking, when reading about a new current event or something, what some of you here on the Zone are going to say about it before anyone ever posts on the subject. ;D
That's why I'm here, and if you really think about it, it's probably pretty close to why all of us are. :wink:
Just my two cents worth.
Quote from: Locutus on July 24, 2012, 11:00:09 PM
I have some input on that subject. I haven't posted much on this thread, but I've had a busy few days and have been doing some reading. I view the Zone, probably like we all do, as kind of a coffee shop. You go into a coffee shop every day for coffee; sometimes you go multiple times per day. But after a while, you get to know people, and they become familiar to you. You're not going to agree with everyone in the coffee shop all the time, of course, but if you stop going to the coffee shop for a bit, you tend to miss it.
Also, although the views and opinions of the people in the shop may not change, current events are always changing. The world is an infinitely interesting place after all, and it never stays the same. There are always new things going on to discuss. New elections, wars, tragedies, deaths and illnesses, the cosmos, UFOs, sports, the MIAMI HEAT!! :razz:, etc. The list is endless.
Although I don't always agree with all of you on the board, I would miss the interaction if I were ever to leave for any long period of time. I've often found myself thinking, when reading about a new current event or something, what some of you here on the Zone are going to say about it before anyone ever posts on the subject. ;D
That's why I'm here, and if you really think about it, it's probably pretty close to why all of us are. :wink:
Just my two cents worth.
Makes perfect sense to me. I've wondered too at times since I've always had jobs where I've worked with the public and know a lot of people how many of you who live local have I met and interacted with offline and we have no clue....One of those things I think about while drifting off to sleep at night... :smile:
I guess it is kind of like the "Cheers" of the forum.............
Since it was my idea, I went with the star, Sammy Malone...
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u432/CMERRITT34/CHEERS-1.jpg)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2012, 08:37:16 AM
I guess it is kind of like the "Cheers" of the forum.............
Since it was my idea, I went with the star, Sammy Malone...
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u432/CMERRITT34/CHEERS-1.jpg)
Very creative, Hank.
Got some free time on your hands, eh?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2012, 08:37:16 AM
I guess it is kind of like the "Cheers" of the forum.............
Since it was my idea, I went with the star, Sammy Malone...
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u432/CMERRITT34/CHEERS-1.jpg)
Now that's pretty funny right there. ;D
Quote from: Olias on July 25, 2012, 08:43:30 AM
Very creative, Hank.
Got some free time on your hands, eh?
Well, as you can tell the quality is NOT very good, I did this in about five minutes....I got this idea in my mind and I thought I would run with it....I wish there were more charactors in it, so I could have included more of us.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2012, 08:37:16 AM
I guess it is kind of like the "Cheers" of the forum.............
Since it was my idea, I went with the star, Sammy Malone...
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u432/CMERRITT34/CHEERS-1.jpg)
:smile:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2012, 08:37:16 AM
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u432/CMERRITT34/CHEERS-1.jpg)
Really? You're the one with the pot-belly and you make
me the fat guy? Eh, what the hell...get me a beer.
Quote from: Exterminator on July 25, 2012, 10:01:59 AM
Really? You're the one with the pot-belly and you make me the fat guy? Eh, what the hell...get me a beer.
I knew that would get you!!! :biggrin:
Hey, I have a very little pot-belly....I'm down to 175 lbs right now, and lean & mean.... :yes:
but here ya go...
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS30-aVmd3u25hXLwIzNcWwhDML3n9ARV-b5X_H6B4tc8Q0eOBm)
Quote from: Exterminator on July 25, 2012, 10:01:59 AM
Really? You're the one with the pot-belly and you make me the fat guy? Eh, what the hell...get me a beer.
Well hell, I'm not doing to well either lol Although I think Kirstie is beautiful no matter what size and she beats Diane (Shelly).
Can I get a beer too? :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on July 25, 2012, 11:13:40 AM
Well hell, I'm not doing to well either lol Although I think Kirstie is beautiful no matter what size and she beats Diane (Shelly).
Can I get a beer too? :biggrin:
Hey you could have been Carla....I liked that ME was hugging EX though... :biggrin:
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS30-aVmd3u25hXLwIzNcWwhDML3n9ARV-b5X_H6B4tc8Q0eOBm)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2012, 08:37:16 AM
I guess it is kind of like the "Cheers" of the forum.............
Since it was my idea, I went with the star, Sammy Malone...
(http://i1067.photobucket.com/albums/u432/CMERRITT34/CHEERS-1.jpg)
That pretty clever Henry, :biggrin: So I'm the mail man getting out the news. :wink: :smile:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2012, 11:20:10 AM
Hey you could have been Carla....I liked that ME was hugging EX though... :biggrin:
(http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS30-aVmd3u25hXLwIzNcWwhDML3n9ARV-b5X_H6B4tc8Q0eOBm)
Ya, I thought that was perfect..... :biggrin: Make mine coffee or Pepsi since I seem to be the resident DD
:biggrin:
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQX1mLgChkjmNQUGyovkcMg7OWcxL6Fs1RgVaEAVJjFJcDZNvYy)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 25, 2012, 11:35:34 AM
:biggrin:
(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQX1mLgChkjmNQUGyovkcMg7OWcxL6Fs1RgVaEAVJjFJcDZNvYy)
wow and in a bottle too.... :thumbsup: