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Good times with some great dialogue?

Started by Henry Hawk, July 18, 2012, 06:23:11 PM

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The Troll

Quote from: me on July 21, 2012, 12:40:41 AM
I'd say that's about a 5th grade level reply.

  I didn't know you were a school teacher.  Grading people.  That is as believeable as you saying that you're an Independent.  GIVE ME A BREAK.   :rolleyes:

me

Quote from: The Troll on July 21, 2012, 09:51:26 AM
  I didn't know you were a school teacher.  Grading people.  That is as believeable as you saying that you're an Independent.  GIVE ME A BREAK.   :rolleyes:
If the shoe fits, and it does, wear it Trolly baby.
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The Troll

Quote from: me on July 21, 2012, 11:09:06 AM
If the shoe fits, and it does, wear it Trolly baby.

  Go ahead and give me a little bit of your Republican dance.  :pink:   :pink:    :kitty:    :pink:   :pink:  Here I go again.  :haha:  :haha:  I just can't help myself when it come to Me and Henry. :haha:  AAAAAAAAAAH sorry I needed a little break.  :haha: :haha:

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Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 18, 2012, 06:23:11 PM
I can remember a time when this forum had some good times with some great dialogue......

Quote from: Anne on July 19, 2012, 10:39:04 AM
When name calling and and lack of respect for others opinions became the norm here.

I know this shouldn't bother me any longer, but as this was once my 'baby' it annoys the hell out of me.   :icon_evil:

1) A forum, properly run as this one still seems to be, isn't anything but a reflection of the members themselves.  The onus of 'good times' and 'great dialogue' lays completely with the member's own attitudes, actions, and abilities to generate those things. 

2) Those things do not mean they only exist when everyone agrees with you.  In fact, agreement should only come through the weight of cogent argument and people being adult enough to recognize adherence to a untenable opinion/position/viewpoint and a losing argument and then to change their minds.

3)  I don't know how many times over the years I've pointed out that 'name calling' is not necessarily 'name calling'*, and that not all 'opinions' deserve respect.*

* a)  stupid: 

1.
lacking ordinary quickness and keenness of mind; dull.
2.
characterized by or proceeding from mental dullness; foolish; senseless: a stupid question.
3.
tediously dull, especially due to lack of meaning or sense; inane; pointless: a stupid party.
4.
annoying or irritating; troublesome: Turn off that stupid radio.
5.
in a state of stupor; stupefied: stupid from fatigue.


stupid:

a : slow of mind : obtuse b : given to unintelligent decisions or acts : acting in an unintelligent or careless manner c : lacking intelligence or reason : brutish
2
: dulled in feeling or sensation : torpid <still stupid from the sedative>
3
: marked by or resulting from unreasoned thinking or acting : senseless <a stupid decision>
4
a : lacking interest or point <a stupid event> b : vexatious, exasperating <the stupid car won't start>


As defined, the use of the term stupid will be, more often than not, a factual descriptor rather than 'name calling'.

*b) We know many people hold strange, detrimental, and often downright ridiculous 'opinions'.  For an (extreme) example:  some people hold the opinion that to kill another is a reasonable proposition, yet we enact laws against it.  Should we 'respect' their 'opinion' and do away with those laws and adjust our collective mindset to embrace their 'opinion'?

4) This area is/was called the Rough House for a reason.  I always loved it back in the day when people bitched about responses here but could never quite manage to not reply and stay out of this area of the forum if they didn't like the way it worked. 

I don't know how many threads I've started in other areas that wind up here completely without my instigation.

But then, I always seem to expect far to much out of people.   :rolleyes:

Someone please call me a 'Waaaaaaaah-bulance'!   :biggrin:
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In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

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Henry Hawk

I still stand by what I said....it has become too much divided, with some "hatred" involved......I am not innocent, but have become tired of it....and at one time, I was able to work through it...but, no longer have the desire...this is just MY opinion...and as you can tell I am STILL hanging around...so, I have nobody to blame but myslelf... :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 22, 2012, 04:28:05 PM
I am not innocent, but have become tired of it....

Aw, maybe you should put on your big girl panties and take your Midol.   :icon_twisted:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on July 22, 2012, 04:36:58 PM
Aw, maybe you should put on your big girl panties and take your Midol.   :icon_twisted:
Could/would you stick around and put up with several people calling you names and bad mouthing you because you don't share their opinion on things like ya'll do HH and me or would you take your big girl panties and Midol and flee? 
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followsthewolf

When the trolls showed up in the past -- mostly before you got here, none of us took our panties/Midol and ran.

We're still here.

You're still a newcomer with no concept whatsoever where this forum evolved from and what the history is.

That's why you are so irrelevant.

You seem to think you have come up with novel ideas in debate. :rolleyes:
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

me

Quote from: followsthewolf on July 22, 2012, 05:26:43 PM
When the trolls showed up in the past -- mostly before you got here, none of us took our panties/Midol and ran.

We're still here.

You're still a newcomer with no concept whatsoever where this forum evolved from and what the history is.

That's why you are so irrelevant.

You seem to think you have come up with novel ideas in debate. :rolleyes:
Been here longer than you think FTW I just didn't post much at first is all.  I'd say the first 2 or 3yrs I was here I may have posted a grand total of 10 posts and that may be over estimating.
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followsthewolf

Then you're just more ignorant than I first imagined.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

me

Quote from: followsthewolf on July 22, 2012, 07:30:47 PM
Then you're just more ignorant than I first imagined.
Mostly stayed in the games area and really didn't read much more of the forum.  I was only on the 'puter in the evenings at that time and had other things going on, it was pre-retirement days.  Why would it make me ignorant anyway just because I've been here quite sometime and just started exploring and posting in different areas the last couple of years or so? 
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The Troll

Quote from: me on July 22, 2012, 07:50:47 PM
Mostly stayed in the games area and really didn't read much more of the forum.  I was only on the 'puter in the evenings at that time and had other things going on, it was pre-retirement days.  Why would it make me ignorant anyway just because I've been here quite sometime and just started exploring and posting in different areas the last couple of years or so?

  Sure haven't broadened your horizons or you intelligence in politics in the United States have you.  You never go and reach out for anything more than the Republican talking points, blogs, and the lies of the Republican Dirty Tricks Team.  Have you?

  But, after the 26,000 post you have made, you sure have make up for lost time with your blatherings.   :yes:   :rolleyes: :razz:

me

Quote from: The Troll on July 22, 2012, 08:20:10 PM
  Sure haven't broadened your horizons or you intelligence in politics in the United States have you.  You never go and reach out for anything more than the Republican talking points, blogs, and the lies of the Republican Dirty Tricks Team.  Have you?

  But, after the 26,000 post you have made, you sure have make up for lost time with your blatherings.   :yes:   :rolleyes: :razz:
Guess I spent more time in last one wins than I thought....LOL  Just different views on things Troll, just different views.  Like looking at a glass of water that's only half full you may think it's half empty and want to argue the point with me and we'd both be technically correct but you'd argue that I was wrong just because I didn't see it the same way you did. 
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followsthewolf

Quote from: me on July 22, 2012, 07:50:47 PM
Mostly stayed in the games area and really didn't read much more of the forum.  I was only on the 'puter in the evenings at that time and had other things going on, it was pre-retirement days.  Why would it make me ignorant anyway just because I've been here quite sometime and just started exploring and posting in different areas the last couple of years or so?

You must be a sock.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

me

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