Quote from: me on May 15, 2012, 12:56:19 PM
Ya, I think someone who did drugs excessively, attended class, (college), sparingly, hung with the rough crowd, and played basketball constantly, (page 93 Dream From My Father), over that anytime. :wink:
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Since there has been so much conversation surrounding that particular page in which Obama supposedly confesses to doing drugs excessively, attending class sparingly, playing basketball constantly, and hanging out with the wrong crowd, I figured it would be interesting to read it straight from the horse's mouth.
So......I found myself out this afternoon and passing right by a branch of the Broward County Library. Since I had a few minutes, I stopped by. There was a copy of the book available, so I whipped out my library card, and borrowed the book.
Below are scans of pages 92-94, just so page 93 can be seen somewhat in the surrounding context.
Sometimes, you just have to grab the bull by the horns, and do all the work of others yourself. :yes: ;D
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Now that I have the book, and have three weeks to return it, I'll probably end up just going ahead and reading the entire thing. That being said, I didn't see anything on p.93 that would lead anyone to believe the claims made in the quote on the first post in this thread. :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Locutus on May 29, 2012, 09:08:03 PM
Now that I have the book, and have three weeks to return it, I'll probably end up just going ahead and reading the entire thing. That being said, I didn't see anything on p.93 that would lead anyone to believe the claims made in the quote on the first post in this thread. :icon_twisted:
just like I have said in the past. The Republican Party's dirty tricks are a bunch of god damn liars. :rant:
Quote from: Locutus on May 29, 2012, 09:08:03 PM
......... I didn't see anything on p.93 that would lead anyone to believe the claims made in the quote on the first post in this thread. :icon_twisted:
But you have to remember that 'me' is a 'special' case. It has been well documented that she .....
Read an article about the mini Ice Age (16th to 19th centuries) where it stated that it got so cold that grapes couldn't be grown in England. Then this person assumed that they were talking about current conditions and posted that "right now" they "can't grow grapes in England."
Read a few excerpts from Obama's book and then asserted that he was a slacker in college, even though it clearly stated that those events took place in high school.
Claimed that Romney's bullying of a gay student and forcibly cutting his hair took place in "grade school" when it was in his senior year of high school.
Claimed that the victim doesn't remember the incident, even though the victim died eight years ago, well before the incident became news.
Tried to weasel out of that statement by claiming she was talking about his parents. Never answered the question "are his parents even alive?"
This thread is awfully quiet since the evidence was produced. ;D
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Quote from: Palehorse on May 30, 2012, 12:19:56 PM
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Obama has been so clean in character and faithfulness since he went to Harvard and been married to the same woman for so many years. The Republicans are looking, searching and reaching so far it is funny and ridiculous. :rolleyes: :razz:
About the only thing they can pin on him is, he is black! O0. Nice try scumbags. :wink: :biggrin:
Guys, I'm pretty sure Obama is one smart man, a great husband and an awesome daddy. I think he is interesting to watch on TV doing interviews. He seems very upbeat and has a great sense of humor.
I just think he is in over his head, and lacks leadership skills to turn our country around. I don't agree with his economic agdenda or his energy agenda.
On that note, Troll, I think Romney has been a faithful husband and an excellent father to his children. He too is candid and a very good speaker.
I think, he may have better leadership skills, as he has led success over his many companies he has worked for or owned.
I'm not cocky enough to say, hands down he will be better, but I think his ideas on how to turn the economy around are better and his energy ideas are more interesting to me.
Overall, I want him in, and Obama out.
IF, Obama wins, I hope he can lead us to better times, because I want what is best for my family.
that is my honest opinion....despite all the rhetoric that I have said in all the arguements on here.
That is the bottom line.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 30, 2012, 01:54:08 PM
I'm not cocky enough to say, hands down he will be better, but I think his ideas on how to turn the economy around are better and his energy ideas are more interesting to me.
And what are those ideas, specifically? He's spouting the same rhetoric almost verbatim that he did in his 2002 gubernatorial campaign and Massachusetts fared worse than almost every other state economically during his ensuing tenure. Taxes went up (by virtue of increases in fees and closing "loopholes"), the state government grew and job creation was 47th out of 50 states in job creation. He couldn't deliver on those promises at the state level; what makes you think he can at the national level?
Yer wastin' yer time.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 30, 2012, 02:47:05 PM
And what are those ideas, specifically? He's spouting the same rhetoric almost verbatim that he did in his 2002 gubernatorial campaign and Massachusetts fared worse than almost every other state economically during his ensuing tenure. Taxes went up (by virtue of increases in fees and closing "loopholes"), the state government grew and job creation was 47th out of 50 states in job creation. He couldn't deliver on those promises at the state level; what makes you think he can at the national level?
Here are the facts:
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U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics - Massachusetts
(retrieved November 2008) Massachusetts did better than the national average for 3 out of 4 years during Romney's term, and achieved better than half the unemployment rate that the nation suffers under now. Instead of criticizing Romney's jobs record, perhaps President Obama would be better served to try and learn something from it.
Governor Romney held firm and balanced the budget every year without raising taxes. He fought to roll back the state income tax from 5.3% to 5.0% and created budgets based on a 5% income tax rate. The legislature refused to reduce the tax rate, and by the end of his term, he had taken "Massachusetts from billions in deficit to billions in surplus".
He cut capital gains taxes, benefiting well over 150,000 residents. Thousands more are currently benefiting from new jobs in the biotech field because of Romney's manufacturing tax relief and because he made the investment tax credit permanent. Thousands of Massachusetts families saved their hard-earned dollars when Romney enacted sales tax holidays. Seniors are benefiting from property tax relief proposed and signed into law by Romney. Our honorable veterans and National Guard members have several new tax breaks because of Romney's belief that they should be taxed less. Commuters can now deduct expenses for travel because Romney believes they shouldn't be penalized for helping increase commerce.
During Governor Romney's tenure from 2003-7, Massachusetts dropped from 13th to 17th in national tax burden rankings.
Although Romney was not able to get any income tax cuts past the Democratic Legislature, he won other tax cuts totaling nearly $400 million, including a one-time capital gains tax rebate and a two-day sales tax holiday for all purchases under $2,500.
He cut state spending by $600 million, including reducing his own staff budget by $1.2 million, and hacked the largest government agency, Health and Human Services, down from 13 divisions to four.
He was able to accomplish a great deal all the while he was dealing with a veto-proof legislature that was 85% democrat!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 30, 2012, 01:54:08 PM
Guys, I'm pretty sure Obama is one smart man, a great husband and an awesome daddy. I think he is interesting to watch on TV doing interviews. He seems very upbeat and has a great sense of humor.
I just think he is in over his head, and lacks leadership skills to turn our country around. I don't agree with his economic agdenda or his energy agenda.
On that note, Troll, I think Romney has been a faithful husband and an excellent father to his children. He too is candid and a very good speaker.
I think, he may have better leadership skills, as he has led success over his many companies he has worked for or owned.
I'm not cocky enough to say, hands down he will be better, but I think his ideas on how to turn the economy around are better and his energy ideas are more interesting to me.
Overall, I want him in, and Obama out.
IF, Obama wins, I hope he can lead us to better times, because I want what is best for my family.
that is my honest opinion....despite all the rhetoric that I have said in all the arguements on here.
That is the bottom line.
Romney a good speaker? :haha: :haha: He can't keep his tongue in his mouth and is always stepping on it. I just can't wait for a debate. :biggrin:
I'll bet Obama cleans Romney's ass hands down. You want to bet $10,000, do you want to bet $10,000 like Romney wanted to bet Rick Perry. (pocket change for Old Mitt) This is one debate I am certainly going to watch and watch Old Mitt cut his own throat. :behead: :haha: :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on May 30, 2012, 06:47:05 PM
Romney a good speaker? :haha: :haha: He can't keep his tongue in his mouth and is always stepping on it. I just can't wait for a debate. :biggrin:
I'll bet Obama cleans Romney's ass hands down. You want to bet $10,000, do you want to bet $10,000 like Romney wanted to bet Rick Perry. (pocket change for Old Mitt) This is one debate I am certainly going to watch and watch Old Mitt cut his own throat. :behead: :haha: :haha:
You mean like Obama talking about 'Polish death camps' ....
or his
"No, no. I have been practicing. ... I bowled a 129. It's like—it was like Special Olympics, or something.''
or
"What I was suggesting—you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith,"
or
''In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died—an entire town destroyed.''
when in actuality there was just 12 people killed....
or
"I've now been in 57 states—I think one left to go.''
or
him laughing about his job creation program ..... "shovel ready was not as shovel ready as we expected."
Yeah Troll, I'm looking forward to the "TelePrompter-In-Chief" debating Mr. Romney. (http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/Smileys3/default/zonelaughing.gif)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 30, 2012, 10:14:22 PM
You mean like Obama talking about 'Polish death camps' ....
or his
"No, no. I have been practicing. ... I bowled a 129. It's like—it was like Special Olympics, or something.''
or
"What I was suggesting—you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith,"
or
''In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died—an entire town destroyed.''
when in actuality there was just 12 people killed....
or
"I've now been in 57 states—I think one left to go.''
or
him laughing about his job creation program ..... "shovel ready was not as shovel ready as we expected."
Yeah Troll, I'm looking forward to the "TelePrompter-In-Chief" debating Mr. Romney. (http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/Smileys3/default/zonelaughing.gif)
Guess what Skippy, Old Mitt Romney is using a TelePrompter too. Mitt has to use one to keep from stepping on his dick. Of course your Republican ex-candidates never made a slip of the tongue. Your God George W. was one of the worse at making slips of the tongue or stepping on his dick. :haha:
See Skippy, you're reaching really far to try to make a joke, but your not funny, you're a clown. :yes: :haha:
Hey Olias!! This remind you of anyone? :rotfl:
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Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 30, 2012, 04:13:04 PM
Here are the facts...
Uh, your "facts" are coming from one of Romney's many campaign websites. You might want to do a little more research so as to avoid looking even more foolish and gullible.
As an example, start with the claim that Romney had a budget surplus. If that's true, the state's debt under his leadership should have decreased; correct? It should be pretty easy even for you to find the year-to-year debt figures for a state.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 30, 2012, 10:14:22 PM
You mean like Obama talking about 'Polish death camps' ....
Did you forget about Hitler's Auschwitz, Belzec or Chelmno. All Polish death camps where the Germans murder thousands and thousands of Poles in World II.
No Bunky, you sure reach and lie to get a your point over. I'll :point: you Republicans suck. :suck: :suck:
Troll go back to sleep....you rarely get the point, and I am not going to try to make you understand.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 30, 2012, 10:14:22 PM
Yeah Troll, I'm looking forward to the "TelePrompter-In-Chief" debating Mr. Romney.
Every persident since Dwight D. Eisenhower has used teleprompters. I guess this it's only an issue if you're black.
Quote from: Exterminator on May 31, 2012, 01:44:53 PM
Every persident since Dwight D. Eisenhower has used teleprompters. I guess this it's only an issue if you're black.
Yep, it's black O0 O0 O0 O0 O0 and sneaky :sneaky: :zoners:
* president...damn typos...
Quote from: Exterminator on May 31, 2012, 02:09:53 PM
* president...damn typos...
With you Ex it is typos, but with Henry it's just poor spelling and not using the "spell check" :dance:
Enough of this, I'm going to the lake. :fish: :sail: :seeya2:
I am not voting for Obama.
Not for any other reason, than the deficit.
The Health Care bill bothers me, I think the government cant run themselves, it is worrisome to have them running health care.
I would rather replace Congress and the Senate with people who dont act like 5 year olds in a room with no adults.
Quote from: damfast on June 10, 2012, 08:55:36 AM
I am not voting for Obama.
Not for any other reason, than the deficit.
Do you mean the deficit which has increased primarily due to reductions in revenue after the economic collapse that occurred under the previous administration and automatic increases in spending on social programs that were enacted long before Obama was president? Welcome to the roles of ignorant and short-sighted voters.
QuoteThe Health Care bill bothers me, I think the government cant run themselves, it is worrisome to have them running health care.
Really? They seem to do a pretty good job of running our defense department, air traffic control, the power grid, water treatment facilities, traffic lights and thousands of other things on which you rely daily. How is this different?
Quote from: damfast on June 10, 2012, 08:55:36 AM
I am not voting for Obama.
Not for any other reason, than the deficit.
The Health Care bill bothers me, I think the government cant run themselves, it is worrisome to have them running health care.
I would rather replace Congress and the Senate with people who dont act like 5 year olds in a room with no adults.
Tweety Bird, I can tell you don't know much about history. But, Medicare is a good run government program. I suppose we let the Republican Party run the health programs. If you are, why don't you just die and get it over with quick. The Republicans are out to kill all of us middle class. I got a one shot rife, end it now instead of dying slowly without any Republican medical help. :kiss:
Go ahead guys, tell me what you really think. I guess i look at all the bailouts and bank failures, and stock market freak out days, and all that stuff when i think of money spent we cant afford. Now i dont know who started it, but it should have been stopped in the last three years, and i dont see that.
And maybe there are parts of government that are well run, but medical? And are there death panels? Will the government see a reduction in older population that does not work, but that does collect payments each month as the answer to spending less? I dont care which party has control, that is something that just doesnt feel good in my head (admittedly a fuzzy head).
And i remember that he said...we will go over bills line by line. we will have transparency....i really dont see where that happened. He just hasnt been successful.
I dont think the Republicans are going to destroy middle class, i think our values are doing that. Parents who dont get involved in education, kids who have no expectations to excel, families who have forgotten to be families. Movies and television that show unrealistic views on what is acceptable community living. Video games that promote violence, and parents who set no standard for their kids regarding drugs/alcohol. Those are the things that are killing us all. And as many democrats as republicans have set the rules, made the laws, and have devalued all of us.
And i will admit i dont know shinola about this stuff. I just process what i hear and read. And you guys alread know i am totally not politically inclined so most of what i read is right here. So its your fault! :biggrin:
^^ I don't think you've read much of that around here. :no: :wink:
Quote from: Locutus on June 10, 2012, 09:18:27 PM
^^ I don't think you've read much of that around here. :no: :wink:
i seriously read this stuff. because i think most of you throw out worthwhile info. you should start a remedial politics thread...use easy words. maybe questions/answers would be good :smile:
Quote from: damfast on June 10, 2012, 09:27:57 PM
i seriously read this stuff. because i think most of you throw out worthwhile info. you should start a remedial politics thread...use easy words. maybe questions/answers would be good :smile:
Leave Fox New alone. They lie, distort and don't tell you the whole story. Watch MSNBC. Watch all that you can, they will tell you the truth and there is no lying bullshit.
And for god sake don't believe anything the twins say, they are brain dead. :knife:
This is a case validating selective memory. Just as in nature, when an animal needs to find food it will take the quickest and easiest path to it; every time. And so it goes with learning and memory; if it is hard and requires work to understand and recall, the largest portion of the masses will believe only those portions of what they read/hear/see that are easiest for them to understand a recall.
Its also the main reason religion has had the success it has enjoyed over the centuries; easier to attribute everything to some great sky-daddy than to figure it out. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 10, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
This is a case validating selective memory. Just as in nature, when an animal needs to find food it will take the quickest and easiest path to it; every time. And so it goes with learning and memory; if it is hard and requires work to understand and recall, the largest portion of the masses will believe only those portions of what they read/hear/see that are easiest for them to understand a recall.
Its also the main reason religion has had the success it has enjoyed over the centuries; easier to attribute everything to some great sky-daddy than to figure it out. . . :rolleyes:
Sky Daddy, is he the one who creates all of the cripple and brain damaged children, floods, tornadoes, starvation and all of the religious killing and war. He's doing one hell of a job. Hell, we don't need the devil. :devil29:
Quote from: Palehorse on June 10, 2012, 10:16:13 PM
This is a case validating selective memory. Just as in nature, when an animal needs to find food it will take the quickest and easiest path to it; every time. And so it goes with learning and memory; if it is hard and requires work to understand and recall, the largest portion of the masses will believe only those portions of what they read/hear/see that are easiest for them to understand a recall.
Its also the main reason religion has had the success it has enjoyed over the centuries; easier to attribute everything to some great sky-daddy than to figure it out. . . :rolleyes:
Yep! It's the weak link in our system of government.
Quote from: Exterminator on June 11, 2012, 10:10:47 AM
Yep! It's the weak link in our system of government.
Which explains a lot! :yes: