The following site gives daily updates on electoral vote projections based on current polling data for each state in the United States. It also gives projections on Congressional races based on those same polling data. We are posting a link to this site here in hopes that it facilitates discussion and threads related to the data and their interpretation.
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http://electoral-vote.com
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Current electoral tally according to that link's most recent polling data is:
Romney: 246
Obama: 263
Tie: 29
Of course my home state is the 29 tie votes. :rolleyes:
It's the 21ST century and with all of our modern technology we need to get rid of the Electoral College. So out dated and so unfair for the voters.
Living in Indiana over the many years my wife and I lose our vote for president. Is also a shame when a man get more the the winner he looses.
Every presidential elections, the election Is up to 6 or 7 state who get to pick the winner. Not fair in any way. :rant:
troll I completely agree with you on this issue
Quote from: Freedom_knight on June 18, 2012, 07:42:09 PM
troll I completely agree with you on this issue
Thank you Mr. Knight. Now we need to get all of the money out of our elections. The super rich are buying our politicians, both sides, How can we have a free nation when it is bought. The almighty dollar rules. $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ :yes:
I do think we have the finest politicians that can be bought in Washington DC. What about, :4th3:
One other thing that should be done. In any election within a state, no out of state money can be used in a political campaign.
In the Wisconsin recall election the Republicans out spent the Democrats 10 to 1 using out of state money. Like the Koch brothers. What is the Koch brothers doing in a state election. A state they don't even live in.
Just like most of the campaign funds for Luger, Coats, Pence, Daniels came from outside the state. Coats and Daniels came from outside the state. Buying homes here saying they loved Indiana and want to live here. That's so much bull shit. Pence and Luger hasn't live in the state of Indiana for years. living and raising their kids out of state.
It isn't fair and uncalled for and must be stopped. :yes: :yes: :rant:
Current polling data on that website has Obama over the top even without Florida which is still showing as a dead tie. However, there are some razor thin margins there in some of the states.
Quote from: Locutus on June 20, 2012, 02:34:19 PM
Current polling data on that website has Obama over the top even without Florida which is still showing as a dead tie. However, there are some razor thin margins there in some of the states.
If the people knows what is good for them, they had not better vote for the Golden Con-Man Mitt. :no: :no: :no:
The republican dirty tricks team came up with the photo ID law, with the lie of voter fraud. Less than .0002 deliberate fraud ever recorded in the entire country. :rant:
A republican spokesman from Pennsylvania said that this law would elect Mitt Romney in Pennsylvania. Really nice, fair and legal way to win an election. That a go republican party. :rant:
326 - 212 in favor of Obama on this date. (6 states a tie)
There will still be some flux between now and Election Day, that's for sure, but the good thing I've noticed about that map, is that you can hover over the states and see the most recent polling data that they used to determine the results for that state. None of the surveys used are more than 3 or 4 days old, so it's pretty up to date.
Looking good for now though. ;D
Quote from: Locutus on July 01, 2012, 08:57:52 PM
There will still be some flux between now and Election Day, that's for sure, but the good thing I've noticed about that map, is that you can hover over the states and see the most recent polling data that they used to determine the results for that state. None of the surveys used are more than 3 or 4 days old, so it's pretty up to date.
Looking good for now though. ;D
If this election is won by the Golden Mitten. It will because the Billionairs bought it for him. He isn't liked by anyone. The republicans that I have talked to don't like him, but Obama is a Socialist, a Communist, a baby killer and he's the "N" word. The ones who wouldn't say that in public. :yes: :yes: :yes: :rant:
Can you really believe that Mitt Romney, the son of a multimillionaire doesn't know where his money is, off shored, out sourced to foreign countries in a bind trust. I call that B - A - L - O - N - E - Y !!!! :sneaky: :haha:
For any person to believe this is, definitely has a learning curve problem. To put it bluntly these people are just plain brain dead. :knife: I think if we get Mitt Romney's real tax records, not the second set of books like Al Capone kept, we are going to find out he worth more than $250,000,0000 and has evaded U.S. taxes. Anyone want to bet he's clean as a whistle. :haha:
Poll: Obama over 50% in Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania
(CNN) - President Barack Obama has a majority of voters backing him in three critical battleground states, according to a survey released Wednesday.
The Quinnipiac University/CBS News/New York Times poll showed Obama leading his Republican challenger Mitt Romney in Florida 51%-45%, in Ohio 50%-44%, and in Pennsylvania 53%-42%. Florida and Ohio are considered toss-ups in November's general election, while Pennsylvania is rated "lean Obama" on CNN's Electoral Map.
The poll indicated that only 4% of likely voters in each of the three states had yet to decide on a candidate to support. Among Romney backers, 10% in Florida and Ohio and 9% in Pennsylvania said they could change their mind before November. Eleven percent of Obama's supporters in Florida said they could change their minds, compared to 13% in Ohio and 15% in Pennsylvania.
"If today were November 6, President Barack Obama would sweep the key swing states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania and – if history is any guide – into a second term in the Oval Office," Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute, wrote in a statement accompanying the poll's release.
Today's map has Obama with 332 electoral votes to Romney's 206.
Quote from: Locutus on August 01, 2012, 12:16:06 PM
Today's map has Obama with 332 electoral votes to Romney's 206.
I sure hope your information is true. Because if Willard Mitt Romney is elected America will suffer a greater disaster than the election of George W. Bush.
He and the Republican Party will create a Herbert Hoover depression on steroids. Tax breaks for the rich and the corporations. It will be the Golden Rule. For he who has the gold rules. Or in gold mining, the rich will get the gold and the rest of us will get the shaft. Damn, I hate Republicans. :angry:
Will anyone :ne1: please tell me what the Republicans have ever done for the middle class, the poor, sick and old people? I'll tell you, NOTHING, NOTHING. but pain and misery. :zoners:
POLL: Obama Job Approval Slips to 44%; Matches 2012 Low... (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 03, 2012, 04:43:41 PM
POLL: Obama Job Approval Slips to 44%; Matches 2012 Low... (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll)
And the map on electoral-vote.com specifically takes the NC results mentioned in that survey into account, and guess what!! Obama is still over the electoral top. :razz:
Quote from: Locutus on August 03, 2012, 04:56:19 PM
And the map on electoral-vote.com specifically takes the NC results mentioned in that survey into account, and guess what!! Obama is still over the electoral top. :razz:
I have no doubt that Obama will win. Unless the phony lie of voter fraud and the Republican fraud on the American citizens of the Voter ID bills the Republican governors and Republican controlled legislators have passed.
The Republican fraud artists and the Republican Dirty Tricks Teams have planned this for a long, long time. Stopping early voting, the shortages of voting machines and the real con game of them all the Voter I.D bills to keep the poor, the blacks, sick and the Democrats from voting. The god damn sons of bitches. :mad: :mad: :rant:
317 - 212 OBAMA!
Quote from: Palehorse on August 15, 2012, 07:38:30 PM
317 - 212 OBAMA!
I hope you're right and it stay that way. After watching a couple of Bug Eye Ryan, if we get him and Romney we and the country are doubled screw. Dumb and Dumber at their finest.
I thought that the Republican couldn't stoop lower than they did with McCain and Palin. :groan: I sure was wrong. :gha: In the Republican deck of cards there are two Jokers. Mitt and Paul. The American Middle Class ---> :shrk: <--- The Tea/Republican Party.
Quote from: The Troll on August 19, 2012, 09:39:19 PM
I hope you're right and it stay that way. After watching a couple of Bug Eye Ryan, if we get him and Romney we and the country are doubled screw. Dumb and Dumber at their finest.
I thought that the Republican couldn't stoop lower than they did with McCain and Palin. :groan: I sure was wrong. :gha: In the Republican deck of cards there are two Jokers. Mitt and Paul. The American Middle Class ---> :shrk: <--- The Tea/Republican Party.
It hasn't, and won't stay that way. That map updates regularly as new polling data become available in the states. My state has shifted to slight Republican, as an example, whereas it was slightly Democratic last week. :mad:
Current tally is 284 Obama - 241 Romey, and 13 ties (state of Virginia).
Quote from: Locutus on August 20, 2012, 12:59:43 AM
It hasn't, and won't stay that way. That map updates regularly as new polling data become available in the states. My state has shifted to slight Republican, as an example, whereas it was slightly Democratic last week. :mad:
Current tally is 284 Obama - 241 Romey, and 13 ties (state of Virginia).
For some reason I just can't believe these polls. I can't believe that, that many people change their minds ever week. Especially after any politician make a speech. A speech that was written by another group of people not the candidate him or herself. It's all :bs: :bs: :bs:
The only poll that reall matters is the one on Nov 6th.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 20, 2012, 12:00:13 PM
The only poll that reall matters is the one on Nov 6th.
Several of your recent posts lead me to believe that you do believe in polls when it is convenient for you to do so.
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Quote from: Olias on August 20, 2012, 12:28:33 PM
Several of your recent posts lead me to believe that you do believe in polls when it is convenient for you to do so.
http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=18211.msg445982;topicseen#msg445982 (http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=18211.msg445982;topicseen#msg445982)
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I hereby nominate you as the forum historian. :biggrin:
Quote from: Locutus on August 20, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
I hereby nominate you as the forum historian. :biggrin:
I just don't get it! How can people just conveniently forget what they posted? Do they think we aren't capable of remembering?
Quote from: Olias on August 20, 2012, 12:28:33 PM
Several of your recent posts lead me to believe that you do believe in polls when it is convenient for you to do so.
http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=18211.msg445982;topicseen#msg445982 (http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=18211.msg445982;topicseen#msg445982)
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I just said, the only one that MATTERS is the one taken on Nov 6th. But, I appreciate you took the time to try to start yet another argument... :wink: :razz:
Olias, did I forget anything? I don't think I did. Just because I posted in my opinion, a fact. It does not mean I conveniently forgot anything.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 20, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
But, I appreciate you took the time to try to start yet another argument... :wink: :razz:
Isn't that what we do?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 20, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
Olias, did I forget anything?
I'll be sure and let you know when you do.
Quote from: Olias on August 20, 2012, 01:18:30 PM
Isn't that what we do?
When you say WE, do you have a mouse in your pocket?
Quote from: Olias on August 20, 2012, 01:20:10 PM
I'll be sure and let you know when you do.
and I have 100% confidence that YOU will do exactly that..... ;D
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 20, 2012, 01:16:10 PM
I just said, the only one that MATTERS is the one taken on Nov 6th. But, I appreciate you took the time to try to start yet another argument... :wink: :razz:
Olias, did I forget anything? I don't think I did. Just because I posted in my opinion, a fact. It does not mean I conveniently forgot anything.
Hawk, have you ever checked your back, someone has taped a target on your back. :sneaky: :wink: :smile:
Quote from: Locutus on August 20, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
I hereby nominate you as the forum historian. :biggrin:
I second that nomination! :smile: :yes:
(that boy can filter text faster than we can think of it.) :wink:
Thank you! Thank You!
It comes from more than 20 years of working with databases.
Hell, you could sell your services as an on-line librarian!!
Quote from: followsthewolf on August 21, 2012, 09:20:27 AM
Hell, you could sell your services as an on-line librarian!!
:biggrin: :biggrin:
Sell my services ... that sort of sounds like one of these guys!
http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/sep/29/librarians-men-of-the-stacks-calendar (http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2011/sep/29/librarians-men-of-the-stacks-calendar)
:food4:
Whatever floats yer boat, my friend. :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on August 21, 2012, 10:13:26 AM
:food4:
Whatever floats yer boat, my friend. :biggrin:
Not my cup of tea. But thanks!
Quote from: Olias on August 21, 2012, 08:37:44 AM
Thank you! Thank You!
It comes from more than 20 years of working with databases.
It's much more than that, and those of us who've posted with you over the years know it :yes:
America is stuck with the Electoral College which was to give the small states a place in the presidential elections. It is out dated in this day and age of computers. It is causing these battle ground states wars where just a few states control the whole election.
We need to abolish it and replace with computers to count each and every vote of every voter. With the illegal Republican Voter ID laws, these laws are corrupting the whole voting process. :trustme:
As the Republican voter crook from Ohio said,"this voter ID bill will deliver Ohio to Mitt Romney, DONE!" These people are guilty of treason and need to be in jail or hung. :hanged:
Wake up Americans
:4th3: :zoners:
We had the pantry open yesterday and 98 people went through. Only one peerson did not have a valid government issued ID. About half of the people who come through are African American, maybe 3 Hispanic, and the rest caucasion. The one person without an ID was white. Having an ID does not seem to be an issue.
University of Colorado analysis of election winner will be Republican Mitt Romney.(accurately predicted the winner of every presidential election since 1980)
A University of Colorado analysis of election factors that's accurately predicted the winner of every presidential election since 1980 revealed Wednesday that the 2012 winner will be Republican Mitt Romney.
"Based on our forecasting model, it becomes clear that the president is in electoral trouble," said Kenneth Bickers, a political science professor at CU-Boulder.
According to an analysis that looks at economic data from all 50 states and the District of Columbia, President Barack Obama will win 218 electoral votes, well short of the 270 benchmark he must reach in order to win a second term.
That calculation paints an awfully different picture than the current electoral map eleven weeks from Election Day, where RCP averages show Obama with a slight lead in nine of the 10 swing states that will decide the election: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin.
Only North Carolina shows Romney ahead based on the average of recent polls.
Although the polling averages show Obama's lead on those swing states is mostly within the margin of error, the president would have to lose all 10 of those states to come in at 218 electoral votes, as the CU study predicts.
Looking at per capita income and state and national unemployment rates, the study's authors conclude that Obama's incumbency advantage is offset by stubbornly high unemployment — and that other factors, like the home state of the top candidates, support from swing state governors and the locations of the party conventions, don't mean much at the end of the day.
According to Bickers, election prediction models "suggest that presidential elections are about big things and the stewardship of the national economy. It's not about gaffes, political commercials or day-to-day campaign tactics."
But, Professor Michael Berry, who conducted the study along with Bickers, cautioned that the model isn't a sure thing just because it has been for 32 years now."As scholars and pundits well know, each election has unique elements that could lead one or more states to behave in ways in a particular election that the model is unable to predict," Berry said.
"What is striking about our state-level economic indicator forecast is the expectation that Obama will lose almost all of the states currently considered as swing states, including North Carolina, Virginia, New Hampshire, Colorado, Wisconsin, Minnesota, Pennsylvania, Ohio and Florida," said Kenneth Bickers of CU-Boulder.
Help me out here ... this seems like a bit of convoluted logic and contradiction.
"RCP averages show Obama with a slight lead in nine of the 10 swing states that will decide the election: Colorado, Florida, Iowa, Michigan, Nevada, New Hampshire, Ohio, Virginia and Wisconsin."
"the president would have to lose all 10 of those states to come in at 218 electoral votes, as the CU study predicts."
So how do they come to their conclusion that "the 2012 winner will be Republican Mitt Romney?"
If Romney wins after he has picked Paul Ryan. It is because of voter suppression and the support of the Republican controlled Supreme Court.
The secret money the Supreme let come in to this election by making Corporations equal to human beings with more rights. As anyone with a brain can see this is unbelievable and unfair in American justice.
If Romney wins, it will show all Americans that money can buy anything and elect a cultist Mormon and a zealot Catholic. :mad: :rant:
:roll eyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 24, 2012, 08:19:07 AM
:roll eyes:
You don't believe that money can buy anything here in Washington DC. See no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil about the Republican Party. Right Monkey Boy. :rolleyes: :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on August 24, 2012, 01:04:26 PM
You don't believe that money can buy anything here in Washington DC. See no evil, hear no evil, and speak no evil about the Republican Party. Right Monkey Boy. :rolleyes: :haha:
and you seem to think that democrats are innocent.......THAT's what I am rolling my eye's about. There are crooks among them, they are no different, if anything, they are worse. They just use Taxpayers dollars to buy their votes.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 24, 2012, 01:19:03 PM
and you seem to think that democrats are innocent.......THAT's what I am rolling my eye's about. There are crooks among them, they are no different, if anything, they are worse. They just use Taxpayers dollars to buy their votes.
Sure there are crooks of both sides. But your Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan whole campaign has been on out and out lies. Romney has lied so much and has change his ideas so much. Hell, you don't know who he is.
I know he is a liar and someone America doesn't need as a president. :trustme: When Mitt says :trustme: I :puke: :yes:
Quote from: The Troll on August 26, 2012, 03:53:39 PM
Sure there are crooks of both sides. But your Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan whole campaign has been on out and out lies. Romney has lied so much and has change his ideas so much. Hell, you don't know who he is.
I know he is a liar and someone America doesn't need as a president. :trustme: When Mitt says :trustme: I :puke: :yes:
and obama has lied too, right in front of our faces........he promised to cut the deficit in half, it has increased by nearly 45 percent. He said the stimulus would create several shovel-ready jobs, immediatly.
He promised the stimulus bill would keep unemployment below 8 percent, create 3.5 million jobs, jump start a green economy, reduce poverty, and put a million electric cars on the road by 2015.
did he lie? sounds to me like he lied or he doesn't know what he is doing....either way, it is time for a change. He had his chance.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 26, 2012, 04:09:10 PM
and obama has lied too, right in front of our faces........he promised to cut the deficit in half, it has increased by nearly 45 percent. He said the stimulus would create several shovel-ready jobs, immediatly.
He promised the stimulus bill would keep unemployment below 8 percent, create 3.5 million jobs, jump start a green economy, reduce poverty, and put a million electric cars on the road by 2015.
did he lie? sounds to me like he lied or he doesn't know what he is doing....either way, it is time for a change. He had his chance.
Please tell me how he lied about the deficit. Your Republican House of Representives wouldn't pass one bill make by him unless it was written to The Republican Party's way. Your guys cause it and the main problem with the problems of today is George W. Bush. You remember him, you voted for him twice. :haha:
After 8 years of George W., you want to trust the Republicans a gain? :haha: :haha: :haha: :haha:
because he SAID, I will cut the deficit in half and he didn't. He lied or he didn't know what he was talking about.
and that is another lie, he had the house and the senate....are you telling me he was not good enough to talk just a few repubs to buy into one of his bills?
and he DID pass HIS stimulus, HIS HC Bill.......and both of those are a bust.
face it, he is a failed leader.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 26, 2012, 04:56:51 PM
because he SAID, I will cut the deficit in half and he didn't. He lied or he didn't know what he was talking about.
and that is another lie, he had the house and the senate....are you telling me he was not good enough to talk just a few repubs to buy into one of his bills?
and he DID pass HIS stimulus, HIS HC Bill.......and both of those are a bust.
face it, he is a failed leader.
Failed leader my ass. You have been brainwashed and drank to much from the Republican Party slop jar or night jar. Every statement out of your mouth come directly from the Republican talking points. That is where you got the statement, "Failed leader" :rolleyes: :doh:
Tell me Monkey Boy, see not evil, hear no evil and speak no evil about the Republican Party. How many dumbass Republican assholes have signed the Grover Norquest pledge. No new taxes even if it mean destruction of America. How many? Oh about 99% and you call this governing. :azz: I'll bet you using the tax cut Obama and the Democrats got you. I'll bet you are. I never seen a Republican that would stoop to pick a few dollars. :rant:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 26, 2012, 04:56:51 PM
because he SAID, I will cut the deficit in half and he didn't. He lied or he didn't know what he was talking about.
and that is another lie, he had the house and the senate....are you telling me he was not good enough to talk just a few repubs to buy into one of his bills?
and he DID pass HIS stimulus, HIS HC Bill.......and both of those are a bust.
face it, he is a failed leader.
You forgot the fact ANY POTUS needs a congress willing to work. This POTUS has not enjoyed such by any stretch of the imagination.
The only "failed leadership" I have seen over the last 4 years is within congress; and there are more of them than you can shake a stick at. But I have the cure; vote every single incumbent in congress OUT!
They are responsible for the lack of progress within this country. They are responsible for the loss of credit rating that this nation is now forced to endure. They are responsible for pandering to the rich while the 99% suffer needlessly.
This is a nation that spends billions in humanitarian efforts around the world every year, but when it comes to its own people its elected congressional representation wants to hold $390/wk in unemployment benefits hostage to a political ideal. It's bullshit pure and simple and the millions of long term unemployed and underemployed in the nation will not soon forget it either.
9/9 - 332 - 206 for Obama 8)
(CNN) – A new survey indicates President Barack Obama moved up four points following the Democratic National Convention last week, and now has a six point advantage over his Republican challenger Mitt Romney.
According to a CNN/ORC International Poll released Monday, 52% of likely voters nationwide back the president, compared to 46% for Romney. Just before the convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, Obama was tied with Romney 48%-48%.
Quote from: Locutus on September 10, 2012, 04:15:59 PM
(CNN) – A new survey indicates President Barack Obama moved up four points following the Democratic National Convention last week, and now has a six point advantage over his Republican challenger Mitt Romney.
According to a CNN/ORC International Poll released Monday, 52% of likely voters nationwide back the president, compared to 46% for Romney. Just before the convention in Charlotte, North Carolina, Obama was tied with Romney 48%-48%.
I know for sure there is 33% of the vote that Obama will never get. Obama sure has to work on the angry white men, women and the so called independent voters. The Far Right Christians and the Southern Red Necks won't vote for Obama. Why, because he is black and he is a baby killer because Obama is for Free Choice and Birth Control for woman rights. We can not let the Republicans win in any government slot. They will kill American life as we know it. :yes:
Yet one of the ironies of the 2012 presidential campaign is that the incumbent president has benefited from strong support among many of the constituencies that have been hardest-hit by high unemployment levels.
I guess taking unemployment and the unemployed hostage to a political ideal wasn't such a smart move now was it? :smile:
Quote from: Palehorse on September 11, 2012, 08:58:38 PM
Yet one of the ironies of the 2012 presidential campaign is that the incumbent president has benefited from strong support among many of the constituencies that have been hardest-hit by high unemployment levels.
I guess taking unemployment and the unemployed hostage to a political ideal wasn't such a smart move now was it? :smile:
I hope you are right. If the poor people, the young men and women sit on their hands and not vote. We might get the worse thing that could happen to American since George W. Bush. A Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan sitting in the White House pulling all of the strings. :doh:
RASMUSSEN POLL: ROMNEY JUMPS BACK INTO LEAD...
R: 47%
O: 46%
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 13, 2012, 09:06:39 AM
RASMUSSEN POLL: ROMNEY JUMPS BACK INTO LEAD...
R: 47%
O: 46%
:biggrin: Keep a hoping, keep a looking :eye: Keep a praying, Henry. :pray: Romney is toast. He is such a dumb ass. That's why you like him. Birds :bird: of a feather stick together. :haha:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 13, 2012, 09:06:39 AM
RASMUSSEN POLL: ROMNEY JUMPS BACK INTO LEAD...
R: 47%
O: 46%
Go with whatever makes you feel better, but that electoral vote tracker and other news show that your boy is in trouble. Especially where it counts.
After two political conventions and heading into the post-Labor Day sprint, President Barack Obama leads Republican nominee Mitt Romney in the key battlegrounds of Florida, Ohio and Virginia, according to new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist polls of each of these three states.
In both Florida and Virginia, Obama is ahead of Romney by five points among likely voters (including those leaning toward a particular candidate), 49 percent to 44 percent.http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/13/13848313-polls-obama-holds-the-edge-in-florida-ohio-and-virginia?lite
332 - 206 ~ OBAMA! 8)
Quote from: Palehorse on September 13, 2012, 08:02:13 PM
332 - 206 ~ OBAMA! 8)
It looks like, I hope that Henry the Chicken Hawk will have to give up eating chicken and start eating crow. Cawww, Cawww, Cawww. :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on September 13, 2012, 10:20:44 PM
It looks like, I hope that Henry the Chicken Hawk will have to give up eating chicken and start eating crow. Cawww, Cawww, Cawww. :haha:
bookmarked....
Today's Rassmussen POLL: ROMNEY 48% OBAMA 45%... (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 14, 2012, 11:18:38 AM
Today's Rassmussen POLL: ROMNEY 48% OBAMA 45%... (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll)
:music1: Oh happy day :music1: Oh happy day :music1: when Romney came to play :music1: oh happy day :music1: :haha:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 14, 2012, 11:18:38 AM
Today's Rassmussen POLL: ROMNEY 48% OBAMA 45%... (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/obama_administration/daily_presidential_tracking_poll)
What matters is that electoral map HH. You could go into any red state and get those same numbers, or better ones. But it's like I said last night, Romney isn't winning in the states where it matters. If Romney is trailing in Florida, Virginia, and Ohio, and he is trailing in those states (I know, I live in one), there's no way he can win the election.
Quote from: Locutus on September 14, 2012, 01:03:30 PM
What matters is that electoral map HH. You could go into any red state and get those same numbers, or better ones. But it's like I said last night, Romney isn't winning in the states where it matters. If Romney is trailing in Florida, Virginia, and Ohio, and he is trailing in those states (I know, I live in one), there's no way he can win the election.
We will see....
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/2012_electoral_college_scoreboard (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/archive/2012_electoral_college_scoreboard)Electoral CollegeObama: 247 - Romney: 196 - Toss-up: 95
^^ Which shows exactly what was stated before. Romney is trailing in key swing states. That map actually mirrors the electoral map on the first page of this thread.
http://electoral-vote.com (http://electoral-vote.com)
Can anyone guess why Henry keeps posting the Rasmussen poll?
Because they are one of only two showing Romney with the lead ....
Barack Obama 48.4% - Mitt Romney 45.3%
Polling Firm Date Obama Romney
Reuters/Ipsos 09/13 48% 41%
Rasmussen Reports 09/12 46% 47%
Gallup 09/12 50% 44%
Democracy Corps (D) 09/12 50% 45%
Fox News 09/11 48% 43%
ABC News/Wash. Post 09/09 49% 48%
CVoter/UPI 09/09 49% 46%
CNN/Opinion Research 09/09 52% 46%
IBD/CSM/TIPP 09/09 46% 44%
American Research Group 09/06 46% 49%
http://www.electionprojection.com/2012elections/president12.php (http://www.electionprojection.com/2012elections/president12.php)
Quote from: Olias on September 14, 2012, 02:00:42 PM
Can anyone guess why Henry keeps posting the Rasmussen poll?
It's like I said before, he has to post what makes him feel good.
I just go to Rasmussen, because they are one of the most accurate.
But, like I said before, none of it means squat, except the polls on Nov. 6th.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 14, 2012, 02:19:33 PM
I just go to Rasmussen, because they are one of the most accurate.
But, like I said before, none of it means squat, except the polls on Nov. 6th.
How do you like your crow Henry. Fried, baked or fricassee. Caww, Caww, Caww. Just saying Skippy. :wink: :smile:
This might be fun to watch:
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/8LUn3sNyOXZHPTidUwAqbQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/thelookout/the-rumble-lg.jpg)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 18, 2012, 10:47:21 AM
This might be fun to watch:
(http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/8LUn3sNyOXZHPTidUwAqbQ--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTMxMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/thelookout/the-rumble-lg.jpg)
This will be fun. John will tear Bill O's head off and hand it back to him. John is so smart and quick of brain. Old Bill is full of himself and definitely SLOOOOW. :biggrin:
I actually like both of these guys....both make me laugh, both have valid points from time to time. Both have a great sense of humor.
In the coming election I wonder how much effect the voter suppression by the Republicans will be. Plus the Republican controlled Supreme Court ruling what makes corporations human beings with more rights right than the real human beings. With unlimited fund raising and unlimited giving to the politicians in secret. In other words buying the politicians who the Rich and the Corporations think will do their bidding. :trustme:
This cannot stand, just because of the corruption of our government leaders. Right now we have the best politicans money can buy in Washington DC. :yes:
Wake up America, the Super Rich and the Corporations are buying America through the Republican Party. Mitt Romney for one. :rant:
:zoners:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 18, 2012, 11:05:00 AM
I actually like both of these guys....both make me laugh, both have valid points from time to time. Both have a great sense of humor.
And both make a
ton of money.
Quote from: Locutus on September 18, 2012, 08:34:18 PM
And both make a ton of money.
Even if Mitt Romney insulted 74% of the people in the United States I am still afraid of the Republican Party. Why? Because of all of their voter suppression laws. Because of the Republican controlled Supreme court making corporations human beings which lets them and their Millionaire and Billionaires supporters buy the election. :angry:
If the election was a draw the Supreme Court would step in and Make Mitt Romney president. We seen it happen before and it could happen again. We got to wake up the 47% of the moochers and get them out to vote. :zzz:
There has been a more important time as now to kick the Republicans out of office. Even better kick them out of the country, a country the Republican Party didn't build. :yes: The Republican Party is destroying the freedoms in American life. :yes:
** After nine battleground polls: We've now released nine battleground state NBC/WSJ/Marist polls in the last three weeks, and what have we learned? President Obama is ahead of Mitt Romney in all nine, with his biggest leads being 7 and 8 points (in Ohio, New Hampshire, and Iowa) and his smallest edge at 2 points (in Nevada and North Carolina). Obama's average percentage in these polls is 49.5% and Romney's is 44% -- which is consistent with the national polls (see below). Our state surveys also show a slight improvement in voters who believe that the nation is headed in the right direction. And they find Obama and Romney essentially tied on who would better handle the economy, while Obama mostly enjoys double-digit leads on foreign policy.
http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/09/28/14137872-first-thoughts-after-nine-battleground-polls?lite
I guess those are just more skewed results. :wink:
Quote from: Locutus on September 28, 2012, 11:33:57 AM
I guess those are just more skewed results. :wink:
We will soon see.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 28, 2012, 12:19:20 PM
We will soon see.
I still got that nice new crisp $100 bill, you want to bet on Romney and Lying Ryan. :yes: :biggrin: If you bet and I lose, you win a $100. :haha:
I just responded to my third presidential telephone poll this week. ;D
Any guesses who I supported in the poll?
Quote from: Locutus on September 28, 2012, 06:29:49 PM
I just responded to my third presidential telephone poll this week. ;D
Any guesses who I supported in the poll?
SEE!!! THEY ARE SKEWED!!!
I knew it!!!!! :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 28, 2012, 09:01:25 PM
SEE!!! THEY ARE SKEWED!!!
I knew it!!!!! :razz:
:rotfl:
In all seriousness though, they are really watching the battleground states.
The American voting freedom is becoming a sham. In states where the Republican Party is in complete control has passed Voter ID laws to stifle the vote. They claim these laws are to protect against an nonexciting problem of voters illegally voting. Illegal voting is not problem in some states at all.
Yet the same Republicans Party have hired a man who has been caught doing voter fraud in Florida and many other states for $3 to $4 million. To register Republican voters that have died, homeless for money and tearing up voter registrations cards of Democrats. George W. Bush wouldn't prosecute him maybe Obama will, this guy needs to be in jail as a felon. Yes, the Republican Party sure knows how to stifle the vote to their good. :angry: :usmad:
http://electoral-vote.com (http://electoral-vote.com)
347 - 191 OBAMA! :smile:
The GOP states loosely follow the bible-belt. . . there's a surprise! :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on September 30, 2012, 11:19:43 AM
http://electoral-vote.com (http://electoral-vote.com)
347 - 191 OBAMA! :smile:
The GOP states loosely follow the bible-belt. . . there's a surprise! :rolleyes:
Anything to put the white back in the White House, even if it means voting for someone they consider to be a member of a cult.
Quote from: Locutus on September 30, 2012, 12:10:25 PM
Anything to put the white back in the White House, even if it means voting for someone they consider to be a member of a cult.
:yes: :yes: :yes:
Quote from: Palehorse on September 30, 2012, 11:19:43 AM
http://electoral-vote.com (http://electoral-vote.com)
347 - 191 OBAMA! :smile:
The GOP states loosely follow the bible-belt. . . there's a surprise! :rolleyes:
What I want to know is, what in hell is wrong with the wheat belt. In the book "What's wrong with Kansas". The poorest county in Kansas with an average income of $18,000 a year, voted 92% Republican. Why? They were against abortion and gay marriage. They voted against their own self interest. Believing in the bible and listening to their preachers must drain their brains away. OMG. :lol:
And this is the 33% of the idiots that want to run this country into the ground. Let us pray. :pray:
They're called single issue voters.
Quote from: Locutus on September 30, 2012, 06:13:03 PM
They're called single issue voters.
a.k.a. - Tea-Billies. :icon_twisted:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on September 30, 2012, 07:30:11 PM
I like that. ;D
Exterminator called them something one time, but I can't post that in the moderated area. He called them teabilly _____sticks. Use your imagination to fill in the blank. :sneaky:
Quote from: Locutus on September 30, 2012, 08:17:03 PM
Exterminator called them something one time, but I can't post that in the moderated area. He called them teabilly _____sticks. Use your imagination to fill in the blank. :sneaky:
:biggrin:
I'm thinking of a phrase that I heard the first time in "Bad Santa". ;D
This election hangs on what the Republican voter suppression voter ID bill will hurt the Democrats. It is amazing what under handed methods the Republican Dirty Tricks Team will do to win an election. They went out an hired a man who has a past voter fraud violations and give him $3 Million to commit greater voter fraud. Telling him not to use any name that he had used in the past to commit voter fraud. And this is Hanks #1 party and Mitt and Paul is his #1 candidates. Henry :no1: :haha: :haha:
Let's take a quick look at today's data. Currently, North Carolina (15 electoral votes) is an exact tie, so the map isn't assigning those electoral votes to either candidate and has them listed in the 'tie' column. That leaves the remaining electoral count allocated to Obama at 332, and Romney 191, with 270 or more needed to elect.
Now let's look at the swing states which at this point could possibly swing Romney's way. Those would be the ones deemed 'barely Democratic' on the map, and where polling data have consistently shown an Obama lead by various margins in past weeks. They consist of Florida (29 electoral votes), Virginia (13 electoral votes), Iowa (6 electoral votes), and Colorado (9 electoral votes). Now if all of those states, plus North Carolina eventually end up going to Romney, and that's a HUGE if, then he can win. He would have to win North Carolina (currently listed as a dead tie), and turn every last one of the swing states that are currently leaning Obama into red states. While nothing is impossible, I just don't see that as very likely.
Romney has an extremely difficult row to hoe to win this election.
332 - 206 - OBAMA
I am sorta glad that Obama was a little slow on the uptake to Romney's lying. It got the Democrats out of that feeling that we were going to win hands down. Complacency is no where to be in an election of this importance. It plain and simple, with Obama it's a slow, successful way out of the depression that George W. got us in. But, with Romney it is depression worse than a Herbert Hoover depression and a tragic disaster for the middle class, poor, old and the sick. :trustme:
The Republican/Tea Party, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan. For the rich, by the rich and to the rich. ------------------> :zoners: In "GOD" they trust. :haha:
Quote from: The Troll on October 04, 2012, 10:17:50 PM
I am sorta glad that Obama was a little slow on the uptake to Romney's lying. It got the Democrats out of that feeling that we were going to win hands down. Complacency is no where to be in an election of this importance. It plain and simple, with Obama it's a slow, successful way out of the depression that George W. got us in. But, with Romney it is depression worse than a Herbert Hoover depression and a tragic disaster for the middle class, poor, old and the sick. :trustme:
Excellent point!
Hank will absolutely love this ...
Friday, October 05, 2012
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows President Obama attracting support from 49% of voters nationwide, while Mitt Romney earns the vote from 47%.
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: Olias on October 05, 2012, 12:41:20 PM
Hank will absolutely love this ...
Friday, October 05, 2012
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Friday shows President Obama attracting support from 49% of voters nationwide, while Mitt Romney earns the vote from 47%.
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Yup!
That is his favorite polling group. But despite that, it's going to be a Romney blowout. :biggrin:
From left wing pundit Andrew Sullivan:
The Pew poll is devastating, just devastating (http://www.people-press.org/2012/10/08/romneys-strong-debate-performance-erases-obamas-lead/). Before the debate, Obama had a 51 - 43 lead; now, Romney has a 49 - 45 lead. That's a simply unprecedented reversal for a candidate in October. Before Obama had leads on every policy issue and personal characteristic; now Romney leads in almost all of them. Obama's performance gave Romney a 12 point swing! I repeat: a
12 point swing.
Romney's favorables are above Obama's now. Yes, you read that right. Romney's favorables are higher than Obama's right now. That gender gap that was Obama's firewall? Over in one night:
Currently, women are evenly divided (47% Obama, 47% Romney). Last month, Obama led Romney by 18 points (56% to 38%) among women likely voters.
Seriously: has that kind of swing ever happened this late in a campaign? Has any candidate lost 18 points among women voters in one night ever? And we are told that when Obama left the stage that night, he was feeling good. That's terrifying. On every single issue, Obama has instantly plummeted into near-oblivion. He still has some personal advantages over Romney - even though they are all much diminished. Obama still has an edge on Medicare, scores much higher on relating to ordinary people, is ahead on foreign policy, and on being moderate, consistent and honest (only 14 percent of swing voters believe Romney is honest). But on the core issues of the economy and the deficit, Romney is now kicking the president's ass:
By a 37% to 24% margin, more swing voters say Romney would improve the job situation. Swing voters favor Romney on the deficit by a two-to-one (41% vs. 20%) margin.... Romney has gained ground on several of these measures since earlier in the campaign. Most notably, Obama and Romney now run even (44% each) in terms of which candidate is the stronger leader. Obama held a 13-point advantage on this a month ago. And Obama's 14-point edge as the more honest and truthful candidate has narrowed to just five points. In June, Obama held a 17-point lead as the candidate voters thought was more willing to work with leaders from the other party. Today, the candidates run about even on this (45% say Obama, 42% Romney).
>http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/did-obama-just-throw-the-entire-election-away.html (http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/2012/10/did-obama-just-throw-the-entire-election-away.html)
So I guess since those results paint a picture that you want painted, then they're not skewed?
Quote from: Locutus on October 09, 2012, 04:01:49 PM
So I guess since those results paint a picture that you want painted, then they're not skewed?
All I am doing is passing on an opinion piece that I thought would fit into this thread very well..........not saying anything one way or the other. It is what it is, imo. I think that debate told Americans quite a bit.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 09, 2012, 04:04:36 PM
All I am doing is passing on an opinion piece that I thought would fit into this thread very well..........not saying anything one way or the other. It is what it is, imo. I think that debate told Americans quite a bit.
What is it you are always saying. "we'll wait until", the next debate. Maybe we will see the real Romney and the real Obama. Mitt's time is coming. :haha:
286 - 235 OBAMA (with 17 ties)
Coming down to the wire. Debate tonight.
Quote from: Locutus on October 22, 2012, 04:05:20 PM
Coming down to the wire. Debate tonight.
Yeah, and I see Romneyhood stepping all over the horseshit he has been spreading in the process. Nobody knows the initiatives of foreign policy like a sitting POTUS, and lying Mitt will be sorely misinformed at a minimum.
Quote from: Palehorse on October 22, 2012, 04:23:05 PM
Yeah, and I see Romneyhood stepping all over the horseshit he has been spreading in the process. Nobody knows the initiatives of foreign policy like a sitting POTUS, and lying Mitt will be sorely misinformed at a minimum.
I think Obama has done an excellent job on foreign policy. Considering the crazy rags head he has to work with and the Jew who don't want to take shit off of anyone. Peace with the Rag Heads? :haha: I think Obama has done a fine job of walking the knife's edge in foreign policy. :yes:
We seen the fine job Mitt did with his little trip to Israel and England. :haha: :haha: :haha: What a fool and dumb ass and you want this man running American affairs. :doh: :haha:
Interesting. I've been checking this link posted by administration regularly over the past weeks and months. As it aggregates polling data from numerous sources, Rasmussen is included in the data depicted on the link. However, due to variances of up to 5.8% of Rasmussen polls, they have a separate map which discounts Rasmussen polls from the aggregated data due to the relatively large variance. That map can be found here:
http://electoral-vote.com/evp2012/Pres/Maps/Oct23-noras.html
Look at the difference between that map, and the map that factors Rasmussen data into the results which is the main map here:
http://electoral-vote.com
294 - 244 OBAMA
And if you throw out Rasmussen, it's 303-235 Obama.
OHIO: R 50% O 48%... (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/ohio/election_2012_ohio_president)
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 29, 2012, 11:37:23 AM
OHIO: R 50% O 48%... (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/ohio/election_2012_ohio_president)
Keep running Henry :run: :run: :run: :run: :run: :run: :sa: :choo: :choo: :choo: :choo: :biggrin:
just sayin... ;)
I'm just sayin' too. :wink:
After the 2010 elections, the New York Times statistics wizard, Nate Silver, analyzed the polls produced by various polling organizations, including Rasmussen Reports, which is the house pollster for Fox News. Silver's analysis covered only polls taken during the final three weeks of the campaign and compared them to the actual election results. For polls taken much earlier, say in June, no one knows what the true sentiment of the electorate was, so there is no way to tell if the polls were accurate or not. Also, any pollster deliberately falsifying the results for partisan advantage would be advised to reduce the bias as the election neared. After all, no one can tell if a June poll is accurate but everyone can tell if a poll released the day before the election is accurate.
Silver analyzed 105 polls released by Rasmussen Reports and its subsidiary, Pulse Opinion Research, for Senate and gubernatorial races in numerous states across the country. The bottom line is that on average, Rasmussen's polls were off by 5.8% with a bias of 3.9% in favor of the Republican candidates.
http://electoral-vote.com/evp2012/Info/rasmussen.html
^^
That right there is further evidence that Fox News does a better job of telling its viewers what they want to hear, rather than conveying accurate news.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 29, 2012, 01:05:54 PM
just sayin... ;)
Just sayin, what you going to do with yourself when Obama wins. You going to leave the country. :biggrin:
What is the Troll going to do if Romney wins. Take my money out of the stock market and clean my guns for the riots that are coming from the starving hordes of starving Republicans. Who will have to take off their dress pants and white shirts and go stealing to find food. :pray: :biggrin: That's the only way they know how to eat is to take other people's money and food. :yes:
Just remember if you want a break and a chance to survive ----------> :zoners:
Quote from: Locutus on October 29, 2012, 01:18:07 PM
I'm just sayin' too. :wink:
After the 2010 elections, the New York Times statistics wizard, Nate Silver, analyzed the polls produced by various polling organizations, including Rasmussen Reports, which is the house pollster for Fox News. Silver's analysis covered only polls taken during the final three weeks of the campaign and compared them to the actual election results. For polls taken much earlier, say in June, no one knows what the true sentiment of the electorate was, so there is no way to tell if the polls were accurate or not. Also, any pollster deliberately falsifying the results for partisan advantage would be advised to reduce the bias as the election neared. After all, no one can tell if a June poll is accurate but everyone can tell if a poll released the day before the election is accurate.
Silver analyzed 105 polls released by Rasmussen Reports and its subsidiary, Pulse Opinion Research, for Senate and gubernatorial races in numerous states across the country. The bottom line is that on average, Rasmussen's polls were off by 5.8% with a bias of 3.9% in favor of the Republican candidates.
http://electoral-vote.com/evp2012/Info/rasmussen.html
Okedoke! we will very soon see....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 29, 2012, 02:03:47 PM
Okedoke! we will very soon see....
Indeed we will. I'm just wondering how much faith to put into a polling organization whose results show the exact opposite of
every other poll taken in Ohio.
As a side note, it'll be interesting to see what our new October surprise (Sandy) does to the campaigns in the coming few days.
Quote from: The Troll on October 29, 2012, 01:39:32 PM
That's the only way they know how to eat is to take other people's money and food. :yes:
Normally Troll, I ignore most of your posts.......but I couldn't let this one pass..........I just about choked when I read it.
THE only way DEMOCRATS know how to eat IS to take from the taxpayers and give it away........just look at what they do! Really AMAZING, how YOU are so distorted with your veiws, you don't even REALLY, remotely, know what you are talking about anymore.........
You guys are famous for taking OTHER peoples money and spending it..........
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 29, 2012, 02:30:59 PM
Normally Troll, I ignore most of your posts.......but I couldn't let this one pass..........I just about choked when I read it.
THE only way DEMOCRATS know how to eat IS to take from the taxpayers and give it away........just look at what they do! Really AMAZING, how YOU are so distorted with your veiws, you don't even REALLY, remotely, know what you are talking about anymore.........
You guys are famous for taking OTHER peoples money and spending it..........
What you just said in you post, is just as true as Mitt's latest political ad in Ohio. Mitt is now saying that Obama, Chrysler and Jeep :bike: are planning to close down Jeep in Ohio and move it lock stock and barrel to China. :yes: :rant: How in hell can you assholes lie the way you do. Anybody that would put Romney in the White House is Bat Shit Crazy. :thubb:
I never have seen liars that have come out of the woodwork like these lying sons of bitches Republicans. :yes: I think the word Mitting and Mitten should be used instead of lying and lair. :yes: :rant:
History dictates that the Panthers 21-13 victory over the Washington Redskins at FedEx Field bodes well for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney. In the 18 presidential elections that have taken place since the Redskins moved to Washington in 1937, 17 have been predicted by the team's performance in its final home game prior to the election.
Looks like it is all over for obama... :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 04, 2012, 09:01:16 PM
History dictates that the Panthers 21-13 victory over the Washington Redskins at FedEx Field bodes well for Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney. In the 18 presidential elections that have taken place since the Redskins moved to Washington in 1937, 17 have been predicted by the team's performance in its final home game prior to the election.
Looks like it is all over for obama... :yes:
First it's Rasmussen, and now it's an NFL game result. Voodoo politics . . . classic! :rolleyes:
I'm not too worried about the election going the right way, but I did read one time about the Redskins game on the Sunday before Election Day portending the results. :spooked: ;D
Quote from: Palehorse on November 04, 2012, 09:25:28 PM
First it's Rasmussen, and now it's an NFL game result. Voodoo politics . . . classic! :rolleyes:
I was joking around........I guess there is no humor between us any more.
Tuesday, will tell it all.......that is the only poll that matters, as I have state so four years ago.
the redskin deal is kind of interesting, but as YOU know, there is science are logic........it is just an amazing coincidence
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 04, 2012, 10:15:06 PM
I was joking around........I guess there is no humor between us any more.
Tuesday, will tell it all.......that is the only poll that matters, as I have state so four years ago.
the redskin deal is kind of interesting, but as YOU know, there is science are logic........it is just an amazing coincidence
The problem is, after Tuesday, regardless of which party wins the presidency, it appears that the Senate and House will be controlled by different parties for at least another two years. And that'll lead to two more years of gridlock and nothing getting done. :mad: :mad: :mad:
Today's the day. We will soon see.
303 - 220 OBAMA with 15 ties.
Even if Romney-hood obtains all ties, he loses. . . :biggrin:
....as long as Ohio holds.
On CBS Sunday, they had a statistician - Nate Silver IIRC - who appears to really know his stuff who gave at least 3 - 1 odds to Obama.
IIRC, he said there were some 75 odd ways for Obama to garner the necessary 270 Electoral votes as opposed to 5 ways for Romney - and if anything in any of those 5 ways fell apart, Romney was basically unable to get the necessary electoral votes to gain the presidency.
Yes. Obama definitely has an easier track to 270 than Romney does.
From what I understood, Obama has multiple tracks to 270 and Romney doesn't.
Looks like the poll tracker in the original thread has been quite accurate all along.
Quote from: Locutus on November 06, 2012, 11:30:20 PM
Looks like the poll tracker in the original thread has been quite accurate all along.
Pretty damn close if you ask me.
With at least 2 major news sources projecting Obama the winner it appears Crow is on the menu for breakfast, lunch, and dinner tomorrow! :yes:
:hamster: OBAMA WINS! :hamster:
284 to 203 OBAMA
Well Romney is FINALLY conceding.
Quote from: Y on November 07, 2012, 12:57:14 AM
Well Romney is FINALLY conceding.
It seems to me :biggrin: that Romney didn't want to talk about his taxes, his religion and his LOSING his race to win the presidency. :haha:
Now he can go back to counting his money :sneaky: and running his cars up and down his car elevator. He also needs to buy a new flag. :uncle: For his ship has already sailed. :titanic: :yes: :biggrin:
Quote from: The Troll on November 11, 2012, 01:03:57 PM
It seems to me :biggrin: that Romney didn't want to talk about his taxes, his religion and his LOSING his race to win the presidency. :haha:
Now he can go back to counting his money :sneaky: and running his cars up and down his car elevator. He also needs to buy a new flag. :uncle: For his ship has already sailed. :titanic: :yes: :biggrin:
Yes, I am so glad the election is over. I am so glad the Republicans, Mitt Romney and Paul Ryan were cut off at the knees. :haha:
The Democrats won by the largest mandate since the Franklin D. Roosevelt landslide after the Republican Herbert Hoover's depression. When we look back in history the Republican party are the largest spenders and liars of the political parties. :mad: :rant:
But even after this beating John Boner and Turtle Head McConnell doesn''t want to raise the taxes on the most wealthy 2% of the people in this country. :rant: I hope the Republican Party keeps up the worship of the Millionaires and Billioniares, just maybe they will go the way of the Wig Party another group of LOSERS. :biggrin:
more propaganda
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 12:32:39 PM
more propaganda
Propaganda? Why don't you tell me how what I said is propaganda. :confused: It's the truth. :yes:
Tell me Henry how long will the Republican Party last as a party if they continue to do what they are doing. :confused: The American people is catching on to the lies and phony patriotism the GOP as been saying for years. Even the 33% of the radical right wing Christians are catching on. :yes: They are going to have to change or die. :yes: I hope they die. :dead:
I can remember laying on my grandmother's floor and hearing FDR give us the news that Pearl Habor had been bombed. :yes: In the years since I do not know of one piece of law that the Republicans passed that were for the working middle class people. :rant: Can you Henry? :rolleyes:
Quote from: The Troll on November 14, 2012, 05:14:49 PM
Propaganda? Why don't you tell me how what I said is propaganda. :confused: It's the truth. :yes:
Tell me Henry how long will the Republican Party last as a party if they continue to do what they are doing. :confused: The American people is catching on to the lies and phony patriotism the GOP as been saying for years. Even the 33% of the radical right wing Christians are catching on. :yes: They are going to have to change or die. :yes: I hope they die. :dead:
I can remember laying on my grandmother's floor and hearing FDR give us the news that Pearl Habor had been bombed. :yes: In the years since I do not know of one piece of law that the Republicans passed that were for the working middle class people. :rant: Can you Henry? :rolleyes:
You know it is not like the repub party is in dire shape....we lost a very close election. Florida, Ohio, Colo and virginia were all very, very close.......take Ron Paul out of the loop and it may have been very differnt.....and remember we still control the house........basicly NOTHING has changed.........just an incumbent POTUS won a second term.
Lets see what HE does, because the dems may be the ones in trouble in two more years.
Ron Paul wasn't on my ballot. Was he on yours?
Quote from: Locutus on November 14, 2012, 08:50:52 PM
Ron Paul wasn't on my ballot. Was he on yours?
nope, but read an interesting article though, where his possible impact could have played out on this...just thought it was an interesting twist.
https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B6c_F0cRLqE-WVd2WkpUV0pVQ00/edit
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 06:35:08 PM
You know it is not like the repub party is in dire shape....we lost a very close election. Florida, Ohio, Colo and virginia were all very, very close.......take Ron Paul out of the loop and it may have been very differnt.....and remember we still control the house........basicly NOTHING has changed.........just an incumbent POTUS won a second term.
Lets see what HE does, because the dems may be the ones in trouble in two more years.
See you can't give me a law that the Republicans have done for the working middle class people. :doh: All in all I just think you are Poopie. :poop:
Just like Grover Norquist said about Romney. :yes: You just don't have any creditability. :rolleyes:
Quote from: The Troll on November 14, 2012, 10:07:06 PM
See you can't give me a law that the Republicans have done for the working middle class people. :doh: All in all I just think you are Poopie. :poop:
Just like Grover Norquist said about Romney. :yes: You just don't have any creditability. :rolleyes:
we don't need MORE laws Troll, we need to get rid of some of the one's in place that ARE HURTING the middle class. Such as the HC Bill. Nearly 60% of Americans are against it.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 15, 2012, 08:24:21 AM
we don't need MORE laws Troll, we need to get rid of some of the one's in place that ARE HURTING the middle class. Such as the HC Bill. Nearly 60% of Americans are against it.
Well, you seem to want more laws, like taking women's rights to birth control and abortions. Right Bunky? :doh:
Quote from: The Troll on November 15, 2012, 10:15:02 AM
Well, you seem to want more laws, like taking women's rights to birth control and abortions. Right Bunky? :doh:
Nope! Never said such a thing. I don't want federal $$ spent on either though. If a State chooses to pay for such items.....good for them. If they choose not to pay for such items........good for them.
If you can't play with it or eat it, piss on it and walk away. . .
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 15, 2012, 10:18:18 AM
Nope! Never said such a thing. I don't want federal $$ spent on either though. If a State chooses to pay for such items.....good for them. If they choose not to pay for such items........good for them.
It's always about the money ain't it Skippy. Send no money on anything that is good for someone else. Right Bunky? To me it makes more sense to stop pregnancy than have a child out of wedlock or having an abortion. :yes: But then and a gain, liars figure and figures lie. :yes:
And I will say that Republicans Math and Arthritic is very bad and what I would call with George H. Bush Voodoo Economics. I would like to see anyone who could make sense of Republican Arithmetic. :no: :no: :rant:
The election is over and OBAMA WON! OBAMA WON! OBAMA WON! :haha: :rotfl: But I don't see any real change in the Republican Party until 2 years and the 2014 elections throw out the bums and the Democratic Party takes over both houses. The party of 'NO' is live and well until they get their wiener skinned back and stepped on. :yes: They will give up everything to protect the rich and their money machines. :rolleyes: But it will happen. :haha: :haha:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 14, 2012, 06:35:08 PM
You know it is not like the repub party is in dire shape....we lost a very close election. Florida, Ohio, Colo and virginia were all very, very close.......take Ron Paul out of the loop and it may have been very differnt.....and remember we still control the house........basicly NOTHING has changed.........just an incumbent POTUS won a second term.
Lets see what HE does, because the dems may be the ones in trouble in two more years.
Face it, Hank, this was most likely the last gasp of the old white men and the racists. The demographics of the United States have changed and those two groups are an ever shrinking minority, and your ideology doesn't appeal (using the kindest terminology) to the rest of that changing demographic. Your party is sunk unless you jettison the crazies you've adopted as your standard and move your arses miles to the left ideologically.
My money is that you won't do it and we'll be in for a political shift when a centrist MOTR party siphons off your sane members and possibly takes your party's name leavin' y'all out in the cold without even a party to your name.
Watch and see if that doesn't happen if your party doesn't make the right deal on the so-called 'fiscal cliff'. The rich and the racists are the minority in this country and everyone else is awakening to that fact and your days are numbered. What I wonder is if you'll bring this country to a real economic disaster before you relinquish power and fade into the dustbin of history and this country can get on with the business of forming that "...more perfect union..." that works for more than the privileged few.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 15, 2012, 10:18:18 AM
Nope! Never said such a thing. I don't want federal $$ spent on either though. If a State chooses to pay for such items.....good for them. If they choose not to pay for such items........good for them.
http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=18566.0
In every election where the people in any state give the Republicans complete power. You see the power hungry leaders of the Republican Party fortifying their control through destroying union, the wreaking of the voting process to eliminate the poor and Democrats from voting and giving the Rich and the corporations complete control of the people of that state. :rant:
When will the people raise up and put down the criminal enterprise, the Mafia of America, the Republican Party. Wake up America, the bastards have come for us. :007: :mask: :zero: :repub: :4th3: