A California Federal Appeals Court ruled that the women could sue Wal-Mart in a class action. Where WalMart pays women less money than men doing the same work.
Ladies we all know that men are worth more at work than women, at Wal-mart. It's been like that for years, why change. We all know that women can out shop men. But out work them?????
I can't see why anyone would want to sue poor old Wal-Mart.
What do you think Ladies. Sue or not to sue, that's the question?
My wife works for Wal-mart in Jane, Mizzouri, she makes more than a lot of males. And she is on the entrance level, and has been there only 6 months.
Quote from: Moonglow on April 27, 2010, 12:36:20 AMMy wife works for Wal-mart in Jane, Mizzouri, she makes more than a lot of males. And she is on the entrance level, and has been there only 6 months.
Are you saying that since your wife may be a brighter bulb in that store. That Walmart has teated all of their female employees fairly. :rolleyes:
With a turn over of 51% to 53% in employees each year. They sure are not taking care of any of their employees. I would like to know how many of their people ever get to retire from that company and now long do you think you wife is going to last. Do really think she might get to be store manager. I bet, NOT. :wink: :smile:
Even though all of the Walmart store are controlled by the main company in Arkansas. They want to say that each store stands alone. Making its own policy. B.S. it is to keep out the unions. If you have ever noticed, every law suit won by the employees, have been paid for by Walmart. :yes: :biggrin:
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Ya know what Troll, unions aren't the be all and end all of every business in the world. The woman I know who works in Muncie is a store manager and the one I know who works at the one in Fl works for a female manager so don't even try that "women can't advance" without a union crap if that's where you're goin' with that statement.
Quote from: The Troll on April 27, 2010, 09:01:58 AM
Are you saying that since your wife may be a brighter bulb in that store. That Walmart has teated all of their female employees fairly. :rolleyes:
With a turn over of 51% to 53% in employees each year. They sure are not taking care of any of their employees. I would like to know how many of their people ever get to retire from that company and now long do you think you wife is going to last. Do really think she might get to be store manager. I bet, NOT. :wink: :smile:
Even though all of the Walmart store are controlled by the main company in Arkansas. They want to say that each store stands alone. Making its own policy. B.S. it is to keep out the unions. If you have ever noticed, every law suit won by the employees, have been paid for by Walmart. :yes: :biggrin:
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The fact appears to be that Wally World has been oppressing women for a very long time, and states that have an "at will" status surrounding employment are playgrounds for this type of abuse. Non-union environments are fertile ground for entities that engage in such practices, and when they exist in at will states its like pouring miracle grow on them; they go wild.
I was a staunch anti union person until I came to work in an at will state. In states like this one, the union is the last bastion of protection from such practices, since they'll fire you for nothing as it is and get away with it. :mad:
Such treatment of women is a hot button for me. This one really pisses me off, and if it proves to be true I may have to stop shopping at Wally World period!
Women need to be kept in their place.
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If Walmart is such a "bad" place, then why don't ALL those who don't like it STOP shopping their?
I rarely go their, not because I don't like the Organization...but, I don't like the one by my home...it is nothing but Anderson's finest...I don't like their meat and produce....and it takes forever to get through the check out....
I choose to go to other establishments when I can.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 27, 2010, 10:16:56 AM
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I choose to go to other establishments when I can.
Prices. The key words are, "when I can".
Most do just that, but when you are on a fixed income and/or jobless you go where the prices are the most favorable to your budget. . .
Why is it that Walmart can break the law and get away with it in your view, but illegal aliens MUST be dealt with in the harshest of manners? :confused:
Quote from: Palehorse on April 27, 2010, 10:24:32 AM
Prices. The key words are, "when I can".
Most do just that, but when you are on a fixed income and/or jobless you go where the prices are the most favorable to your budget. . .
Why is it that Walmart can break the law and get away with it in your view, but illegal aliens MUST be dealt with in the harshest of manners? :confused:
IF, they are breaking any laws...then they should/will get punished...they have not been to court yet.
That Walmart has teated all of their female employees fairly.
;D
Quote from: Palehorse on April 27, 2010, 10:24:32 AM
but illegal aliens MUST be dealt with in the harshest of manners? :confused:
who said it had to be in the harshest of manners.....if they are here Illegally, they should leave, on their own, without any fuss...
Quote from: The Troll on April 27, 2010, 09:01:58 AM
Are you saying that since your wife may be a brighter bulb in that store. That Walmart has teated all of their female employees fairly. :rolleyes:
With a turn over of 51% to 53% in employees each year. They sure are not taking care of any of their employees. I would like to know how many of their people ever get to retire from that company and now long do you think you wife is going to last. Do really think she might get to be store manager. I bet, NOT. :wink: :smile:who knows? Wal Mart is onna firing frenzy right now, everyoins works in fear. i personally have know the Walton Family since 1985[I lived next to 'em]. They are more about lying and control than anything else, but then again, mostly all corporations are that way.
Even though all of the Walmart store are controlled by the main company in Arkansas. They want to say that each store stands alone. Making its own policy. B.S. it is to keep out the unions. If you have ever noticed, every law suit won by the employees, have been paid for by Walmart. :yes: :biggrin:
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I worked for Sam Walton when I exited the Army in 1986 he made me sign an anti-union statement to get employed, being a single parent I took the job and devalued my ethics, I quit within 7 months to do resturaunt mangement.
Quote from: Palehorse on April 27, 2010, 10:02:15 AM
The fact appears to be that Wally World has been oppressing women for a very long time, and states that have an "at will" status surrounding employment are playgrounds for this type of abuse. Non-union environments are fertile ground for entities that engage in such practices, and when they exist in at will states its like pouring miracle grow on them; they go wild.
I was a staunch anti union person until I came to work in an at will state. In states like this one, the union is the last bastion of protection from such practices, since they'll fire you for nothing as it is and get away with it. :mad:
Such treatment of women is a hot button for me. This one really pisses me off, and if it proves to be true I may have to stop shopping at Wally World period!
Wal Mart is an equal opprotunity azzhole, they treat everyone like dirt.
Quote from: followsthewolf on April 27, 2010, 10:06:33 AM
Women need to be kept in their place.
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And their place is where ever they want.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 27, 2010, 10:16:56 AM
If Walmart is such a "bad" place, then why don't ALL those who don't like it STOP shopping their?There
I rarely go theirthere, not because I don't like the Organization...but, I don't like the one by my home...it is nothing but Anderson's finest...I don't like their meat and produce....and it takes forever to get through the check out....
I choose to go to other Establishments when I can.
I get 10% off and the food tax is low in Mizzouri. i shop where i can get the best price, Wally World is not always the lowest.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 27, 2010, 11:31:10 AM
who said it had to be in the harshest of manners.....if they are here Illegally, they should leave, on their own, without any fuss...
Just stop hiring them and they will go away
Quote from: Moonglow on April 27, 2010, 11:43:22 AM
Just stop hiring them and they will go away
i think that is a good start.....I am in favor of fining the crap or even jailing those who hire illegals....I have no problem with that...
me neither.
but that is not what businesses claim.
they claim white people are worthless.
My broken back is testament to a life of hard work.
Quote from: me on April 27, 2010, 09:51:53 AMYa know what Troll, unions aren't the be all and end all of every business in the world. The woman I know who works in Muncie is a store manager and the one I know who works at the one in Fl works for a female manager so don't even try that "women can't advance" without a union crap if that's where you're goin' with that statement.
"ME", I have read all of you posts since I became a member of the Unknown Zone. I want to tell you one thing, I WOULD NOT WANT TO WORK FOR YOU AS AN EMPLOYEE, WITHOUT THE PROTECTION OF AN UNION. I just could not believe you and your friend would be kind bosses. :devil4: :yes:
Since I think that bird of a feather flock together and people who think a like, flock together, I wouldn't want to work for your two female friends who are managers at Walmart. :flap: :flap:
Have you ever asked how many employees your friend have let go and fired. I'll bet they aren't virgins at firing people. Not if they work at Walmart. :blah: :blah:
You have live an union life. With the pay and protection that a union provides. Yet, you want the common worker to stand all alone against the Supercapitalist Corporations like Walmart. :owned:
I don't think you are a very fair person, when it come to the brotherhood of Man and Woman. Somebody say Amen! :pray: :pray:
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wal-mart managers are paid a bonus and that bonus is partially ratio ed to labor. The labor cost are cut by giving hard working single incomes cuts in hours, example. My wife worked 40 hours until x-mas, then her hours as was all the rest were cut to around 16-20. people were fired for any reason they could find. then they were denied unemployment. Corporations hire companies to fight unemployment claims.
Quote from: me on April 27, 2010, 09:51:53 AMYa know what Troll, unions aren't the be all and end all of every business in the world. The woman I know who works in Muncie is a store manager and the one I know who works at the one in Fl works for a female manager so don't even try that "women can't advance" without a union crap if that's where you're goin' with that statement.
"Me", just like I said in the other topic, you lived the union life. Pay, job security and until your divorce, healthcare.
I think you opinion is of unions are... :bsflag:
The Troll. :no1: :salute:
I also left out how Wal mart hires more people while they are cutting current employees hours. they did the same to me in 1986 when I worked in the Ware house.
And Sam Walton personally stated that we would get 40 hours a week if we signed an anti-union statement.
The bottom line to me is that every business cannot and should not be a union business. I would have had no problems at all signing an anti-union statement.
Wal Mart is in China, and to be there they had to unionize the store in China. They are still making a profit.
Quote from: me on April 27, 2010, 04:48:09 PMThe bottom line to me is that every business cannot and should not be a union business. I would have had no problems at all signing an anti-union statement.
If your that goddamn stupid and that hungry, go right a head. I know your not that hungry. You just want the poor people to stay dirtass poor. In one of you past post you said, "I don't shop that much at Walmart." :sarcasm:
There is surly some place in hell where you could be a boss. I think you are truly screwed up in the Head. :wacko: :wacko: :pink: :pink: :pink:
The Troll, buy American. :flag: :flag: :flag: :seeya2:
Quote from: me on April 27, 2010, 04:48:09 PM
The bottom line to me is that every business cannot and should not be a union business. I would have had no problems at all signing an anti-union statement.
That would not be very wise. You would be selling your talents to the store on a unilateral basis with no guarantees. Unless the store would guarantee your job if you did so -- in writing, and with the conditions under which you would work.
And then, voila!! You have a one-person union contract.
We come full circle.
Quote from: The Troll on April 27, 2010, 05:35:21 PM
If your that goddamn stupid and that hungry, go right a head. I know your not that hungry. You just want the poor people to stay dirtass poor. In one of you past post you said, "I don't shop that much at Walmart." :sarcasm:
There is surly some place in hell where you could be a boss. I think you are truly screwed up in the Head. :wacko: :wacko: :pink: :pink: :pink:
The Troll, buy American. :flag: :flag: :flag: :seeya2:
That makes us even then because I think you are screwed in the head. :razz:
Quote from: me on April 27, 2010, 06:47:16 PMThat makes us even then because I think you are screwed in the head. :razz:
Ignorance is bliss!
Quote from: The Troll on April 27, 2010, 09:09:09 PM
Ignorance is bliss!
Hum, guess you're in a permanent blissful state then huh? :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on April 27, 2010, 05:42:18 PM
That would not be very wise. You would be selling your talents to the store on a unilateral basis with no guarantees. Unless the store would guarantee your job if you did so -- in writing, and with the conditions under which you would work.
And then, voila!! You have a one-person union contract.
We come full circle.
Bump - - - This is worth repeating.
Quote from: me on April 27, 2010, 11:02:31 PM
Why?
That you do not understand why explains everything. . .
Oh I understand alright I just don't happen to look at it that way is all.
Quote from: me on April 27, 2010, 09:25:46 PM
Hum, guess you're in a permanent blissful state then huh? :biggrin:
You don't see me defending the Republican Party for all of the destruction they have done to this country and are trying to do some more now, with their NO, NO, NO, style of government.
And you definitely don't see me defending the employee busting and the company that is destroying the American manufacturing businesses, WALMART. :trustme:
Ooooo big bad Wal-Mart......Ya know what, Wally world isn't doing a thing to anyone but being there and offering people a choice. I don't happen to like Wally world but that is my choice and the people that shop there probably weren't patronizing the mom and pop shops that everyone is saying they're putting out of business either because they were in all likely hood going to K-Mart or Target since they too are cheaper than the average mom and pop store. Why just pick on Wally world when most of the discount stores, Target, K-Mart, and Meijer, are the same as far as hiring, pay, employee hours, and merchandise? In fact I know people who went to Wally world from K-Mart and liked conditions at Wally world much better. No, they aren't friends just people I got to know who worked at the K-Mart I went to all the time who went to Wally world when the K-Mart they worked at closed. I don't want to hear more about the big bad Wally world I want to know why they are the only ones picked on.
Quote from: me on April 28, 2010, 01:04:58 PM
Ooooo big bad Wal-Mart......Ya know what, Wally world isn't doing a thing to anyone but being there and offering people a choice. I don't happen to like Wally world but that is my choice and the people that shop there probably weren't patronizing the mom and pop shops that everyone is saying they're putting out of business either because they were in all likely hood going to K-Mart or Target since they too are cheaper than the average mom and pop store. Why just pick on Wally world when most of the discount stores, Target, K-Mart, and Meijer, are the same as far as hiring, pay, employee hours, and merchandise? In fact I know people who went to Wally world from K-Mart and liked conditions at Wally world much better. No, they aren't friends just people I got to know who worked at the K-Mart I went to all the time who went to Wally world when the K-Mart they worked at closed. I don't want to hear more about the big bad Wally world I want to know why they are the only ones picked on.
All of the big box stores are bad when it come to the treatment of their employees. I don't know of any hourly people, personally, who retired from Walmart. I did see where the last CEO retired with millions of dollars. But, I know or three hourly people who retired from Meijers. One man who worked in maintainace, one woman who worked in accounting and who worked in the bakery and as pastry and bread baker. I meet them all in a RV Park in Florida when we went down there for the winter. The people sure didn't complain about what they were getting in retirement.
How many hourly employees do you know, that retired from Walmart.
Why do they pick on Walmart. IT'S THEIR RECORD OF LAWSUITS FOR EMPLOYEE MALTREATMENT. And the lawsuits the employes won. Millions of dollars over the years.
Why don't you just Goggle in "people who hate walmart" read it for a change, then defend them.
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Quote from: The Troll on April 28, 2010, 01:41:53 PM
All of the big box stores are bad when it come to the treatment of their employees. I don't know of any hourly people, personally, who retired from Walmart. I did see where the last CEO retired with millions of dollars. But, I know or three hourly people who retired from Meijers. One man who worked in maintainace, one woman who worked in accounting and who worked in the bakery and as pastry and bread baker. I meet them all in a RV Park in Florida when we went down there for the winter. The people sure didn't complain about what they were getting in retirement.
How many hourly employees do you know, that retired from Walmart.
Why do they pick on Walmart. IT'S THEIR RECORD OF LAWSUITS FOR EMPLOYEE MALTREATMENT. And the lawsuits the employes won. Millions of dollars over the years.
Why don't you just Goggle in "people who hate walmart" read it for a change, then defend them.
The Troll Buy American and be an American. :flag: :flag: :flag: :salute:
The only thing I found was a union generated piece of crap and I don't take it to be entirely accurate. You could probably find things like that about most any company. Even though I don't like Wally world I just can't imaging them being any worse than other companies and deserving of so much more controversy. I'm not actually trying to defend them here just trying to figure out what is behind the thought processes on their seeming to be the ones taking all the heat. Could it be that they employ more people therefore are more attractive to unionize because of the money that could be generated for a union?
Quote from: me on April 28, 2010, 01:58:57 PM
The only thing I found was a union generated piece of crap and I don't take it to be entirely accurate. You could probably find things like that about most any company. Even though I don't like Wally world I just can't imaging them being any worse than other companies and deserving of so much more controversy. I'm not actually trying to defend them here just trying to figure out what is behind the thought processes on their seeming to be the ones taking all the heat. Could it be that they employ more people therefore are more attractive to unionize because of the money that could be generated for a union?
Being at the top of the heap in annual revenue generated brings increased scrutiny from everyone, and not necessarily in an effort to dig up dirt. The competition wants to know and understand the top entities "best practices" and try to incorporate them into their own business operations.
The problem is, just as in politics, if they've got any dirty little secrets or skeletons in the closet they'll be brought out into the light of day. Wally World has made a lot of mistakes in the past, and this latest allegation should come as no surprise to anyone. How else do you think they can maintain those "price rollbacks"? In order to do it someone is getting screwed somewhere else; whether it is the employees or the customers doesn't matter to them. Just so long as they can make up the lost revenue.
Take Astra Zeneca for example. Found guilty of conducting illegal marketing of a drug in the United States, they have just been ordered to pay a 520 million dollar fine for the infraction. (They posted 5
billion in profits from this same initiative, so paying back 10% of the gross to obtain a 4.5 billion dollar profit is a real bargain).
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100427/ap_on_bi_ge/us_doj_astrazeneca (http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100427/ap_on_bi_ge/us_doj_astrazeneca)
Same tactic as Massey Energy.
Quote from: me on April 28, 2010, 01:58:57 PM
The only thing I found was a union generated piece of crap and I don't take it to be entirely accurate. You could probably find things like that about most any company. Even though I don't like Wally world I just can't imaging them being any worse than other companies and deserving of so much more controversy. I'm not actually trying to defend them here just trying to figure out what is behind the thought processes on their seeming to be the ones taking all the heat. Could it be that they employ more people therefore are more attractive to unionize because of the money that could be generated for a union?
I just can't believe you actually went to the site, "people who hate Walmart. I couldn't find any UNION GENERATED SITE. With your, all truthful self, would you point out which site are union generated. As it is, with you in everything you say is....
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