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Tennessee state Senate speaker and gubernatorial candidate Ron Ramsey has joined the growing ranks of officials and prominent commentators who say they are unsure of whether President Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen.
Ramsey was asked Feb. 2 about the issue by Maclin Davis, a former state lawmaker and attorney for the state GOP, the Associated Press reported.
"I don't know whether President Obama is a citizen of the United States or not," Ramsey responded. "I don't know what the whole deal is there."
However, Ramsey added that he doesn't believe citizens are concerned about Obama's citizenship status.
"But I'm going to tell you something," he said. "When you walk out on the street down here, people don't really care about this issue."
Help push the petition asking President Obama to reveal his long-form, hospital-generated birth certificate to the 500,000 mark!
He said dwelling on the issue of whether Obama is eligible to hold office distracts from the Republican message on jobs, education and fiscal conservatism.
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The problem is that noone cares about this. I don't believe that anything cold be of more importance. We need to expose this fraud before it's too late.
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I dunno FTW, annoying and wrong, yes, but what makes Doc any different than the other right-wing posters? I can think of a few who think the World Nut Daily provides words to live by. :spooked:
Although I think he probably is a citizen he has brought all this on himself by hiding things about himself like his college records and such. What's the big deal? I mean if he did so well in college and was a bright student why not allow them to release his college records? He already admitted to doing drugs during his college years so what's the harm in knowing the rest?
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 05, 2010, 10:52:36 AM
Another pos trolling spamming jerk moron.
I thought spam was not allowed on this forum, along with spammers.
:rolleyes:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 05, 2010, 11:18:28 AM
I dunno FTW, annoying and wrong, yes, but what makes Doc any different than the other right-wing posters? I can think of a few who think the World Nut Daily provides words to live by. :spooked:
The difference (a HUGE one, in my opinion) is that the "right wingers" who normally post here have contributed in many other threads and don't just do drive-by spamming. Every time Doc comes here, he simply flames and leaves. Even though the wars get pretty hot here sometimes, no one thinks that any of the participants are spamming, just expressing deeply held beliefs.
I know when the regulars here express themselves that, even though it gets hot & heavy occasionally, the participants don't really seriously dislike each other personally. Doc and a couple of others who rarely visit here except to stir things up give me a distinctly different feeling. Nothing to contribute except snark and snide remarks.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 05, 2010, 11:52:16 AM
:rolleyes:
Welcome back HH. I've missed you. Hope your absence wasn't due to illness like the flu or something.
I have been feeling just fine, just lost some of my appitite to discuss the last few days....but, I'm working it out.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 05, 2010, 01:35:38 PM
I have been feeling just fine, just lost some of my appitite to discuss the last few days....but, I'm working it out.
Glad to know ya haven't been ill.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 05, 2010, 01:35:38 PM
I have been feeling just fine, just lost some of my appitite to discuss the last few days....but, I'm working it out.
Glad you're back.
Yep. Me too. :smile:
I got to take baby steps...but...I am becoming very passionate with my beliefs...holding my tounge is not something I am good at.....and posting on here is not the easiest thing to do sometimes...
the problem is I like everyone here too much to just quit....so, I gotta grab a breath or two...and dive back in.... :razz: ;D
C'mon in, the water's fine!
:biggrin:
If you get stuck Henry, you know my number! :yes:
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 05, 2010, 12:26:39 PM
The difference (a HUGE one, in my opinion) is that the "right wingers" who normally post here have contributed in many other threads and don't just do drive-by spamming. Every time Doc comes here, he simply flames and leaves. Even though the wars get pretty hot here sometimes, no one thinks that any of the participants are spamming, just expressing deeply held beliefs.
I know when the regulars here express themselves that, even though it gets hot & heavy occasionally, the participants don't really seriously dislike each other personally. Doc and a couple of others who rarely visit here except to stir things up give me a distinctly different feeling. Nothing to contribute except snark and snide remarks.
I wish you could give an old man a break. I'm sorry but I don't have the time to visit as often as some. When I do come here I like to bring up topics that are of concern to me and they should be to you to.
Quote from: me on February 05, 2010, 11:28:22 AM
Although I think he probably is a citizen he has brought all this on himself by hiding things about himself like his college records and such. What's the big deal? I mean if he did so well in college and was a bright student why not allow them to release his college records? He already admitted to doing drugs during his college years so what's the harm in knowing the rest?
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That's transparency for you. I guess it applyes to everyone but him.
Nah.
Yer just a troll.
And pissing and moaning about being old won't cut it.
I'm probably older than you are. That's why I can smell youi.
Quote from: Doc on February 06, 2010, 10:37:30 AM
That's transparency for you. I guess it applyes to everyone but him.
I noticed that.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 06, 2010, 10:44:05 AM
Nah.
Yer just a troll.
And pissing and moaning about being old won't cut it.
I'm probably older than you are. That's why I can smell youi.
I never hear you complain about Dan Foster........he IS a troll...his only intention IS to be a drive by spammer as you put it....
Doc, I welcome you kindheartedly..
When was the last time that Doc offered anything but warmed-over crap that's been proven wrong time after time?
We've been down the road with the "birther" thing many times.
Yet, here he comes with yet another chunk of ignorance that has no further discussion value or interest whatsoever.
Foster is your opposite number. He holds diametrically opposing views, but is passionate about them. I don't always agree with his points, but, then, I don't always agree with anyone on here.
If Doc offered a point that was worth chewing over, I'd listen. Unfortunately, though, I get the distinct impression that he isn't capable of doing that. He just cuts and pastes others' opinions as if they were his.
me, would you and Henry support anyone who believes like you do despite the fact that they're 1)wrong and 2)appearing to want to incite?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 06, 2010, 11:33:10 AM
me, would you and Henry support anyone who believes like you do despite the fact that they're 1)wrong and 2)appearing to want to incite?
Hum, lets see now. If a person believes like we do and is appearing to want to incite and is wrong would we support them....hum....As Spock would say....That question is illogical. No wonder you have such a problem figuring things out.
If a person believes like we do then we don't think they're wrong or inciting just as you wouldn't if it were someone who believed as you do. You are lumping again aren't you? Now go do your thing and twist what I just said all out of proportion. I can't wait to see what you come up with.
No, what's illogical is being a blind follower and thinking they're right just b/c you like what they say.
You know, "me," you threw in aside about the drug usage, but weren't all you folks indignant as heck when Dubya's alcohol problem in his younger days was brought up?
So, you see, the crap just goes 'round and 'round with no purpose because some people just won't let it go.
All the problems Bush exhibited that you defended back then are the things you want to get into now.
Guys like Doc spend their time in those cesspools just digging around, trying to find more useless, time-consuming, wheel-spinning insignificant molehills to pump into mountains.
all you guys are entertaining. i would love to put you all in a room together with Glen Beck as moderator and watch the fun. i think i would give you all those blow up boxing gloves and some of those cute little hats wrestlers wear. i am sure we could find you all those shiny shorts with the stripe down the leg. we could do a reality show better than survivor. to make sure you all get your say, we would have to give you a soccer ball to hold, and your turn to talk would be when you had the soccer ball. the visuals here are endless. we could add paint ball guns, slingshots and a few of those foam bricks. oh what fun!
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Didn't they already do most of that on "American Gladiators"? :smile: :smile:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 06, 2010, 11:33:10 AM
me, would you and Henry support anyone who believes like you do despite the fact that they're 1)wrong and 2)appearing to want to incite?
the only thing I can tell you IS...I will ALWAYS support people who believe like I DO!!....and if they were wrong, I would NOT support them.......but the reason I DO support them is because they are RIGHT...
seriously....THIS is the reason I have been contemplating a hiatus from here.......you guys are so arrogant...you can't stand ANYONE who does not bow down and suck up to Obama....but, it was perfectly fine to do so to Bush.....
I have given a billion reasons WHY I don't like liberal views....and EVERY damn time, I hear...."you can't think for yourself...you just think that way because RUSH said so"........and that is so much BS...you are driving me nuts....it happens to be, Rush is popular because he agrees with a LARGE number of hard working, thinking, everyday, common folks out there....the very folks who just ran out democrats in Mass, NJ, and Virginia........
It is YOU guys who are sheeple and mimicking the liberal media, by calling these folks who disagree with this admin..."teabaggers"......
the bottom line for me is..........TIME is going to tell the truth...and it is slowly revealing itself, every day....Americans are waking up to this disaster that is going on.....
SEE!...I am TRYING to get away from this BS....but you guys are TOO blind to see the truth....you are too arrogant to get over yourselves....
AHHHHHG!!..
okay......back to regular programming....
You speaking in generalities, or do you really think that Obama wasn't born in Hawai'i?
Quote from: me on February 06, 2010, 11:47:47 AM
If a person believes like we do then we don't think they're wrong or inciting just as you wouldn't if it were someone who believed as you do.
Hate to admit it, but this is a logical response, to which I would respond "hell, yeah" if I had had a beer or four.
:bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss: :bliss:
Quote from: LOsborne on February 06, 2010, 01:58:08 PM
Hate to admit it, but this is a logical response, to which I would respond "hell, yeah" if I had had a beer or four.
To which I reply, "Cheers!"
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 06, 2010, 01:20:08 PM
the only thing I can tell you IS...I will ALWAYS support people who believe like I DO!!....and if they were wrong, I would NOT support them.......but the reason I DO support them is because they are RIGHT...
seriously....THIS is the reason I have been contemplating a hiatus from here.......you guys are so arrogant...you can't stand ANYONE who does not bow down and suck up to Obama....but, it was perfectly fine to do so to Bush.....
I have given a billion reasons WHY I don't like liberal views....and EVERY damn time, I hear...."you can't think for yourself...you just think that way because RUSH said so"........and that is so much BS...you are driving me nuts....it happens to be, Rush is popular because he agrees with a LARGE number of hard working, thinking, everyday, common folks out there....the very folks who just ran out democrats in Mass, NJ, and Virginia........
It is YOU guys who are sheeple and mimicking the liberal media, by calling these folks who disagree with this admin..."teabaggers"......
the bottom line for me is..........TIME is going to tell the truth...and it is slowly revealing itself, every day....Americans are waking up to this disaster that is going on.....
SEE!...I am TRYING to get away from this BS....but you guys are TOO blind to see the truth....you are too arrogant to get over yourselves....
AHHHHHG!!..
okay......back to regular programming....
Henry,
The reason that I find Doc repulsive to listen to is because of statements like this:
"They should do away with the constitution and just follow the laws in the good book and we'd be allright."
Tell me how one defends such a ridiculous statement. Doesn't your conservative ethic condemn him to being anti-American with such a statement. And, before you answer, consider what document defines what it is to be an American in the first place.
I think his statement speaks for itself.
P.S. He posted it on November 21, 2009
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 06, 2010, 12:02:15 PM
You know, "me," you threw in aside about the drug usage, but weren't all you folks indignant as heck when Dubya's alcohol problem in his younger days was brought up?
So, you see, the crap just goes 'round and 'round with no purpose because some people just won't let it go.
All the problems Bush exhibited that you defended back then are the things you want to get into now.
Guys like Doc spend their time in those cesspools just digging around, trying to find more useless, time-consuming, wheel-spinning insignificant molehills to pump into mountains.
Now read what I posted real close. I did not agree that he wasn't a citizen nor did I get bent out of shape because he admitted to doing drugs like ya'll did about Bush's alcohol usage. What I did question was why he didn't want his college records released which, if he already admitted to something the opposition could use against him, should be no big deal if he's not trying to hide something.
Quote from: me on February 05, 2010, 11:28:22 AM
Although I think he probably is a citizen he has brought all this on himself by hiding things about himself like his college records and such. What's the big deal? I mean if he did so well in college and was a bright student why not allow them to release his college records? He already admitted to doing drugs during his college years so what's the harm in knowing the rest?
I read what you posted "real close."
The whole post contained points that don't mean squat.
At this juncture, he IS the POTUS.
Let us concern ourselves with the more important matters that have meaning for the future of the United States.
Doc can't get past all the insignificant trivia that has been the hallmark of most of the objections to Obama and his policies in the first place. They still think they can pull some kind of "jury nullification" of whatever he has done/will do. Doc has nothing significant to add.
I'm done with this.
Now read it again as I intended it not how your are taking it. You cannot argue the fact that he has set a lot of things about his past to off limits but yet dug into the past of others who opposed him or did not agree with him and used it against them.
QuoteQuote from: me on February 05, 2010, 11:28:22 AM
Although I think he probably is a citizen he has brought all this on himself by hiding things about himself like his college records and such. What's the big deal? I mean if he did so well in college and was a bright student why not allow them to release his college records? He already admitted to doing drugs during his college years so what's the harm in knowing the rest?
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 06, 2010, 03:18:56 PM
I read what you posted "real close."
The whole post contained points that don't mean squat.
At this juncture, he IS the POTUS.
Let us concern ourselves with the more important matters that have meaning for the future of the United States.
Doc can't get past all the insignificant trivia that has been the hallmark of most of the objections to Obama and his policies in the first place. They still think they can pull some kind of "jury nullification" of whatever he has done/will do. Doc has nothing significant to add.
I'm done with this.
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 06, 2010, 03:01:15 PM
Henry,
The reason that I find Doc repulsive to listen to is because of statements like this:
"They should do away with the constitution and just follow the laws in the good book and we'd be allright."
Tell me how one defends such a ridiculous statement. Doesn't your conservative ethic condemn him to being anti-American with such a statement. And, before you answer, consider what document defines what it is to be an American in the first place.
I think his statement speaks for itself.
P.S. He posted it on November 21, 2009
first of all, when you compared me to Dan Foster.........THAT was punch to the gut......he is obnoxious and a bigot....he clearly has hatred, he spews it all the time....I don't believe I have ever lowered myself to THAT level.....he, along with others on here, take personal pot shots at those who disagree with them...
secondly, Doc also has passionate opinions....and EVERYTIME he says anything on here, he is attacked....why not let him say his two cents and if you don't want dialogue back with him, ignore him, as I do Dan....
but, this is only my two cents.....I am getting used to "liberal obnoxiousness"....that seems to be the norm any more....
Henry, you took a whole lot of things way too personally. The comparison I made was because of your reference to him in a previous post. As I said before, I don't agree with all of what he says, but he has been here for some time and has established his bona fides, as you have, certainly. I don't agree with a lot of what you say, either, but, when the "discussion" is over, it's over.
When Doc makes a statement like the one about the Constitution, it displays to me one of two things:
1. a complete lack of thought about making ridiculous comments, or,
2. he really does believe it; in which case he really is a whacko
Do you agree with his statement?
As to the "liberal obnoxiousness" --
If you think that I'm obnoxious because I'm sick of going over the same old ground about the president's birthplace, etc., you have that right. But when someone makes absurd statements like the one about the Constitution and then regresses to the muckraking crap that the birthers espouse, yeah, I get a little upset about massive stupidity, and I will attack it ruthlessly. My country is based on the Constitution, and when someone makes a jackass statement like that, he has taken off the gloves, as far as I am concerned. Whoever jumps in the fray to defend that kind of vacuous thinking will suffer by contact.
He admitted that he comes here occasionally to bring things to light. He brings nothing to light. All he does is bring crap back that we've gone over in this forum many time before. He doesn't have a clue about what the dynamics of this forum are, but he ignorantly butts in, drops a load, and is gone.
If he comes here to take another mental dump, I'll be here to greet him.
He chooses to come here, and he chooses to post in the "unmoderated" part of the forum.
Let him defend himself -- if he can. Otherwise, he should choose another part of the forum in which to post
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 06, 2010, 06:46:25 PM
... Doc also has passionate opinions....and EVERYTIME he says anything on here, he is attacked....why not let him say his two cents and if you don't want dialogue back with him, ignore him....
Damned well told, Hank.
FTW, first of all, you know I have no REAL problem with you....whatsoever.
and you are correct, that it IS an unmoderated section, so all is fair...............
I am simply stating MY opinion and perspective of a few things...thats all.
as far as Doc, HE is not complaining, and he seems to be taking it just fine....
It is more me that is letting things get under my skin lately...as you know, It is ALL good, or I would NOT be here..... :razz:
:thumbsup:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 06, 2010, 06:46:25 PM
... Doc also has passionate opinions....and EVERYTIME he says anything on here, he is attacked....why not let him say his two cents and if you don't want dialogue back with him, ignore him....
Quote from: LOsborne on February 06, 2010, 07:55:33 PM
Damned well told, Hank.
?!?!?!?
I don't get the logic behind either of your comments.
Isn't the point of putting oneself out in the marketplace of ideas - i.e.: a forum etc. - to test the validity of one's positions by receiving arguments for and
against one's positions?
I suggest that if that's not the case, then I agree with FTW - you're nothing but a spammer - and simply trying to shove an 'opinion' down everyone's throat. I also see it in a similar light if one cannot - or will not - defend the positions they espouse.
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Tennessee state Senate speaker and gubernatorial candidate Ron Ramsey has joined the growing ranks of officials and prominent commentators who say they are unsure of whether President Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen.
Well how do I know that this Ramsey guy is a citizen? Don't tell me it is because he has a birth certificate because it could be a fake. Don't tell me because his mama lives here because maybe it isn't really his mama. Don't tell me he has no hidden family members in other countries, because one of the rag magazines will find someone who is!
You are so right! How do I know YOU are a citizen? :rolleyes:
You can't fix stupid. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Exterminator on February 08, 2010, 07:44:51 AM
You can't fix stupid. :rolleyes:
Ah Ex, don't be so hard on yourself. You just hang in there and you'll learn. :smile:
Such twit...oops, I meant wit. :rolleyes:
Quote from: kimmi on February 07, 2010, 01:23:17 PM
Tennessee state Senate speaker and gubernatorial candidate Ron Ramsey has joined the growing ranks of officials and prominent commentators who say they are unsure of whether President Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen.
Well how do I know that this Ramsey guy is a citizen? Don't tell me it is because he has a birth certificate because it could be a fake. Don't tell me because his mama lives here because maybe it isn't really his mama. Don't tell me he has no hidden family members in other countries, because one of the rag magazines will find someone who is!
You are so right! How do I know YOU are a citizen? :rolleyes:
Just another dumb, southern redneck making the rounds. Bush won running as one, even though he was an ivy league son of privilege (and a son of a bitch) just playing a cowboy/redneck on TV. Palin will run as a hick outsider and get plenty of votes, but will never win unless she has a hack publicist like rove working her. The NASCAR trailer crowd are easily duped (or the WWE would just be the backyard sideshow that it really is and not the mega-million scam, like their churches, that is has become).
You birther must have been behind the door when they passed out the brains. I just can't believe there so much ignorance in America today. With all of the computers, the internet and access to state records, besides search engines. You still don't think Obama is an American citizen you must be trying to pull someones leg or you are retarded. I think some people have with Obama is that top !/4 inch of skin, Black. He 50% white, he was raised by a white mother and a white grandmother who loved him and helped him get the finest education money can buy. George W. couldn't have got into Yale, if George 42 hadn't bought his way in. Come on Birthers, GIVE A BREAK!
The Troll
Quote from: The Troll on March 06, 2010, 11:08:51 AM
You birther must have been behind the door when they passed out the brains. I just can't believe there so much ignorance in America today. With all of the computers, the internet and access to state records, besides search engines. You still don't think Obama is an American citizen you must be trying to pull someones leg or you are retarded. I think some people have with Obama is that top !/4 inch of skin, Black. He 50% white, he was raised by a white mother and a white grandmother who loved him and helped him get the finest education money can buy. George W. couldn't have got into Yale, if George 42 hadn't bought his way in. Come on Birthers, GIVE A BREAK!
The Troll
:blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah: :blah:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on February 06, 2010, 11:53:13 AM
No, what's illogical is being a blind follower and thinking they're right just b/c you like what they say.
There is too much evidence to deny Obama's legitimacy. Anyone that doesn't believe it is a nut bag. That's all there is to it. Nut bags are bline.
Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution of the United States states, "No person except a natural born citizen of the United States shall be eligible to the Office of the President."
If this is the law of the land, why is President Barack Obama hiding all references to much of his past, and why has he never produced his birth certificate?
In fact, a study from the United States Justice Foundation has released information showing that Obama has spent upwards of $950,000 in campaign funds with 11 law firms in 12 states for legal resources to block disclosure of any of his personal records. Gary Kreep of that foundation stated that the investigation is still going on and the final report will be provided to U.S. Attorney General Eric Holder. Holder has refused to comment.
Does anyone expect an answer from Obama's appointees? The question is, "How will they attempt to delay and cover up this debacle?"
Britain's Daily Mail carried the story in a front page article, "Obama Eligibility Questioned." When asked for a comment in London when he was meeting with Prime Minister Gordon Brown, Obama just smiled and refused to make any further comments.
Another group, Americans for Freedom of Information, have released copies of Obama's college transcripts from Occidental College. The transcript showed that Obama, under the name of Barry Soetoro, received financial aid as a foreign student from Indonesia as an undergraduate at the school. The transcript was given by Occidental College in compliance with a court order in a suit brought by a group in the Superior Court of California. The transcript states that "Obama (under the name of Soetoro) applied for financial aid and was awarded a fellowship for foreign students from the Fulbright Scholarship program. To qualify, a student must claim foreign citizenship.
Along with evidence that Obama was born in Kenya, there is no record of him ever applying for U.S. citizenship. His appointees and czars are in panic at the White House, and they are casting further doubts about Obama's legitimacy's and qualifications to serve as president.
http://usjf.net/
My god, asked and answered at least a million times over the past year. You lost, get over it!
The depth of some stupidity and ignorance is impossible to plumb.
Quote from: followsthewolf on March 07, 2010, 06:14:55 PM
The depth of some stupidity and ignorance is impossible to plumb.
I wonder how they'd feel about it when one of their exalted leaders starts endorsing shooting stupid people in the head???
Quote from: Doc on March 07, 2010, 03:23:31 PM
There is too much evidence to deny Obama's legitimacy. Anyone that doesn't believe it is a nut bag. That's all there is to it. Nut bags are bline.
I am confused. You state that people that deny obama's legitimacy are nut bags and blind in this post, then post the idiocy of their claims. Were you for him, before you were against him, or, did you misquote your position with this post in not using the word, illegitimacy vice what you typed, legitimacy?
Either help us understand how fucked up you are, or help us understand that the post that followed was sarcasm, a joke, or an example of the ignorance you seem to have claimed.
It does not matter where he was born, or where his father was from. Mom was a US citizen, so Obama is
automatically a US citizen. We learned that about citizenship in grade school.
Birth certificates only show where someone was born, and who the parents were. You can be born anywhere
and still be a natural born US citizen thanks to one or both of your parents.
That is true. My mom was born in Japan.
Then you have no right to even post on this forum, you foreign immigrant ingrate non-Amurrikin person, you.
:sarcasm: :bsm2: :sa:
Quote from: Mr442 on March 09, 2010, 08:15:06 AM
It does not matter where he was born, or where his father was from. Mom was a US citizen, so Obama is
automatically a US citizen. We learned that about citizenship in grade school.
Birth certificates only show where someone was born, and who the parents were. You can be born anywhere
and still be a natural born US citizen thanks to one or both of your parents.
Absolutely, 442.
There is no way to tell how stupid these birthers are -- it is a bottomless pit that they love to roll around in.
Quote from: followsthewolf on March 09, 2010, 09:55:03 AM
Then you have no right to even post on this forum, you foreign immigrant ingrate non-Amurrikin person, you.
:sarcasm: :bsm2: :sa:
Yep I know! I'm just waiting around to see if immigration gets called on me or if they will give me that free ticket to go to Japan. I'd take it!
:biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Quote from: followsthewolf on March 09, 2010, 09:55:03 AM
Then you have no right to even post on this forum, you foreign immigrant ingrate non-Amurrikin person, you.
:sarcasm: :bsm2: :sa:
Yeah, f'n nips. ;>)
Quote from: dan foster on March 08, 2010, 09:37:33 PM
I am confused. You state that people that deny obama's legitimacy are nut bags and blind in this post, then post the idiocy of their claims. Were you for him, before you were against him, or, did you misquote your position with this post in not using the word, illegitimacy vice what you typed, legitimacy?
Either help us understand how fucked up you are, or help us understand that the post that followed was sarcasm, a joke, or an example of the ignorance you seem to have claimed.
You knew what I meant but I typed it wrong. All you care about is the gotcha and you try to use it when you've got nothing else. Remember the truth will set you free.
Quote from: The Troll on March 06, 2010, 11:08:51 AM
You birther must have been behind the door when they passed out the brains. I just can't believe there so much ignorance in America today. With all of the computers, the internet and access to state records, besides search engines. You still don't think Obama is an American citizen you must be trying to pull someones leg or you are retarded. I think some people have with Obama is that top !/4 inch of skin, Black. He 50% white, he was raised by a white mother and a white grandmother who loved him and helped him get the finest education money can buy. George W. couldn't have got into Yale, if George 42 hadn't bought his way in. Come on Birthers, GIVE A BREAK!
The Troll
Then why does the BC Obama made available not contain the name of the Hospital on it. And (i think, not 100% sure) the Freedom of Information Act would at least allow the name of the hospital.
Quote from: Doc on March 12, 2010, 09:19:30 AM
Then why does the BC Obama made available not contain the name of the Hospital on it. And (i think, not 100% sure) the Freedom of Information Act would at least allow the name of the hospital.
Because maybe, just maybe, the name of the hospital was not required where that certificate was issued. Get over it, his mother was a citizen, so he is too.
Quote from: Doc on March 12, 2010, 09:14:21 AM
You knew what I meant but I typed it wrong. All you care about is the gotcha and you try to use it when you've got nothing else. Remember the truth will set you free.
:poop:
Actually, you are so confused in your thought processes that even you don't know what you think.
But press on, anyway, Rush.
Quote from: Doc on March 12, 2010, 09:14:21 AM
You knew what I meant but I typed it wrong. All you care about is the gotcha and you try to use it when you've got nothing else. Remember the truth will set you free.
No, I was legitimately confused about your statement and had no real idea, based on your post, what you were getting at. But thanks for getting us the truth and clearing up how fucked up you are. YOUR truth is absolutely fucked up.
Come on Doc, you surly aren't just brain dead, are you? Give us a break. How do we know that your parents were married. That you weren't switched at birth. That you weren't a alligator who had his tail cut off and painted white.
It is all about race isn't it? I think he's one of the most intellgent president we had in years. He came from a city in the middlewest and to the most difficult job in the world. I think he going very well.
He probably started poorer than you. And he smarter than the best Republican president the Republicans have every had, Bill Clinton and you got that from a yellow dog Democrat. I vote for a yellow dog than a lying, cheating, robbing, fornicating Republican politician.
The Troll :yes:
Quote from: The Troll on March 14, 2010, 04:55:20 PM
Come on Doc, you surly aren't just brain dead, are you? Give us a break. How do we know that your parents were married. That you weren't switched at birth. That you weren't a alligator who had his tail cut off and painted white.
It is all about race isn't it? I think he's one of the most intellgent president we had in years. He came from a city in the middlewest and to the most difficult job in the world. I think he going very well.
He probably started poorer than you. And he smarter than the best Republican president the Republicans have every had, Bill Clinton and you got that from a yellow dog Democrat. I vote for a yellow dog than a lying, cheating, robbing, fornicating Republican politician.
The Troll :yes:
You have to hide your money from all politicians, but you should probably hide your children, too, from all republicans.
Quote from: dan foster on March 15, 2010, 10:17:31 PM
You have to hide your money from all politicians, but you should probably hide your children, too, from all republicans.
.... and the religious nuts.
Guys, we're feeding a mental cripple, cut his feeding tubes. :wink: The Doc. In nature this animal would have been consumed by some predatory beast, :eek:you can't run around in the wild without a brain. :yes:
The Troll :) ;D :biggrin: :yes:
I honestly don't know why this is even a question anymore :confused: .
To me, it reeks of desperation. Maybe for some, it would be a deam come true to have Obama declared ineligible so perhaps they can claim that we never had a black president. :rolleyes:
the one and only problem I have with this is WHY he won't simply comply with what these folks want and be done with it.
on the other hand, He is the President, and he was voted in..despite a technicality...(IF it was true)...the damage is done (for those of us who feel there is damage beign done)...lets concentrate on the American process vote in a person we want...I still believe we have the best process in the world...it has it's problems but I think we are on the verge of fixing a lot of things...Americans are more awake "politically" now than the last few decades....
Henry have you checked your feeding tubes lately. The Troll :biggrin: :biggrin: :biggrin:
Well, Henry and Doc, you guys have beat and beat and beat this dead horse. Can we bury this poor horse now.. The torture is over and you have done everything to this horse except waterboard it. I think everybody will agree with the Troll, this time. As the song goes. "The party is over". Somebody say Amen.
The Troll. :yes: :yes: :yes:
Here's a link to an investigation to factcheck.org, in case anyone's interested:
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/born_in_the_usa.html
Thank you Me. Wolfe, I don't know you nichname, But any way thank you so much for that piece of informantion. But you do know the are people who can't see what they won't see.
LET'S BURY THIS SUCKER! BY, BY. BY.
Quote from: The Troll on March 18, 2010, 01:54:38 PM
Well, Henry and Doc, you guys have beat and beat and beat this dead horse. Can we bury this poor horse now.. The torture is over and you have done everything to this horse except waterboard it. I think everybody will agree with the Troll, this time. As the song goes. "The party is over". Somebody say Amen.
The Troll. :yes: :yes: :yes:
You are NOT very good with facts or you don't read very well, Mr. Troll....On this topic, 'I don't know whether Obama's a U.S. citizen' ..I have only ONE..(1)..ONE, post regarding my opinion of Obama's citizenship...I have only 6 posts on the whole thread....so, I haven't beat any dead horse here what-so-ever...and IF, you actually read my post where I expressed my thoughts on this, I am not down on it....I pretty much said what is done is done, let's move on....but, for some reason, you seem to think I say things I never say...you just have your mind made up, that I am your enemy.....
If you wasn't so naive and funny, I wouldn't waste my time with you at all....but, you are some what entertaining....but I will tell you this....be carefull WHO you go tangling with on here, because you will get ate alive by some of these folks....such as Lolly...we get along fantastic..actually we ALL get along pretty good here...they don't make a better person than 'Me" on here either....so, no need into getting all nasty ... hey, take it for what it's worth, I'm sure you will have a "great" response for this ol' dumbass, mean-spirited, God-lovin chicken hawk... :razz:
ps, I really do luv my forum bros and sista's on here... :yes:
:peace: :party: :wine: :food5: :beers: :shots: :food15: :food12: :food4: :wacko: :rotfl: :rotfl:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 18, 2010, 04:48:06 PM
ps, I really do luv my forum bros and sista's on here... :yes:
Somehow, I always knew that Hank! Back at you, bro!
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 18, 2010, 04:48:06 PM
you will get ate alive by some of these folks....such as Lolly...
For the record, I AM NOT A MAN-EATER. ... Mostly I'm not ... Okay, sometimes I
lick a little bit.
Quote from: LOsborne on March 18, 2010, 07:46:59 PM
For the record, I AM NOT A MAN-EATER. ... Mostly I'm not ... Okay, sometimes I lick a little bit.
:spooked:
Quote from: LOsborne on March 18, 2010, 07:46:59 PM
For the record, I AM NOT A MAN-EATER. ... Mostly I'm not ... Okay, sometimes I lick a little bit.
:nice: :trustme: :clap: :clap: :clap:
Quote from: LOsborne on March 18, 2010, 07:46:59 PM
For the record, I AM NOT A MAN-EATER. ... Mostly I'm not ... Okay, sometimes I lick a little bit.
:drool1: :drool1: :shrk:
:koolaid: :five: :man:
:bouquet:
Henry, Henry, Henry, Your just like a baby Robin. :yes: :yes: You always have your mouth open and you're full of shit. ;D ;D :biggrin: :biggrin: :yes: :yes: But I love you and I think you're one of the greatest and smartest person I have ever read. If I were given the greatest honor of being in you masterful presence, I would most likely have to wear sun glassed or a welder helmet to keep from going blind in your radiance. :angel: :angel: :angel: :razz: :razz: :razz: As they say and it must be one of your person reason for living, is. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance you baffle them with bullshit. :wink: ;D :biggrin:
The Troll
Quote from: The Troll on March 19, 2010, 09:07:21 AM
Henry, Henry, Henry, Your just like a baby Robin. :yes: :yes: You always have your mouth open and you're full of shit. ;D ;D :biggrin: :biggrin: :yes: :yes: But I love you and I think you're one of the greatest and smartest person I have ever read. If I were given the greatest honor of being in you masterful presence, I would most likely have to wear sun glassed or a welder helmet to keep from going blind in your radiance. :angel: :angel: :angel: :razz: :razz: :razz: As they say and it must be one of your person reason for living, is. If you can't dazzle them with brilliance you baffle them with bullshit. :wink: ;D :biggrin:
The Troll
you are being WAY too kind Mr. Troll...but it is YOU, who is ...eh never mind...I haven't had any coffee yet this morning to lay anything to thick....I'll try later
;biggrin:
:hug:
Love ya Henry :biggrin:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 17, 2010, 09:43:05 AM
..Americans are more awake "politically" now than the last few decades....
You think this is why the worst president in the history of presidents was voted in twice in the last decade?
Quote from: dan foster on March 20, 2010, 12:01:18 AM
You think this is why the worst president in the history of presidents was voted in twice in the last decade?
and if this current healthcare bill passes, you may need to rethink this statement....Congressional budget scorekeepers (CBO) says the Medicare fix that Democrats included in the health care bill would push it into the red by $59 billion....
Henry, Why should your get you panties, up and in a bunch, your cutting off the circulation to your brain. At our age we could be very possibly dead and in our grave. before this so called debt even happens.
We will both will be in our graves, we'll both be dressed up, you waiting for Jesus to"return?" and I'll be all dressed with no where to go for billion of years. When our sun start to die and absorbs the earth and of of the planets. Then burning out like all of the suns in the universe and I'll and everybody else and most likely you, will be returned to a dark and dead universe. Where the earth and all of everthing else, "Will be void of light." The End! Using the most misused word on earth, love. I will leave the topic and say, I love you Henry, have a good day.
The Troll ;) :) :smile: :yes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 20, 2010, 12:18:41 AM
and if this current healthcare bill passes, you may need to rethink this statement....Congressional budget scorekeepers (CBO) says the Medicare fix that Democrats included in the health care bill would push it into the red by $59 billion....
I really don't know what the outcome of the HCB will be. It certainly is bought and paid for by the insurance/financial sector through congress. Would I blame obama for the outcome? Not sure, but seems no one is able to fight the kind of money the insurance/financial sector holds, now, and I blame raygun and just about everyone else, ever since they flipped manufacturing vs financials as THE gov't investment strategy. But your guy, cheney, and his little buddy, bush, exacerbated the problem beyond all belief.
HALLELUJAH, HALLELUJAH, HALLELUJAH 8) 8) ;D ;D ;D :biggrin: HALLENLUJAH, HALLENLUJAH :biggrin: :biggrin HALLELUJAH, ;) :rolleyes: :eek: :biggrin: :yes: HALLENLUJAH HALLENLUJAH 8) 8) 8) 8) :yes: THE HEALTHCARE BILL PASSED :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
hallelujah, HALEJAH :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :smitten: :yes:
THE TROLL ;D :smile: :biggrin:
Where's Doc when you need him? :biggrin:
'Birthers' Who Keep Asking About Obama's Birth Certificate May Get Cut OffQuoteTaking direct aim at the "birthers" who keep insisting that despite evidence to the contrary they don't believe President Barack Obama was born in Hawaii, lawmakers there have sent a bill to the governor that "lets any Hawaii department ignore repeated requests for information from the same person -- if the department already has responded within a year," The Honolulu Advertiser reports.
That would give the state's Health Department the OK to turn down multiple requests from the same person -- something that officials say happens often.
By the way, if you want to see how the Health Department handles all the requests, it has put an FAQ page here.
And among the statements the department has put out is this, issued last July, from Director Chiyome Fukino, a Republican:
"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawai'i State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago."
FactCheck.org is one organization that has "seen, touched, examined and photographed the original birth certificate." That non-partisan organization's conclusion: "Obama was born in the U.S.A. just as he has always said."
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2010/04/birthers_hawaii_obama_birth_ce.html?ft=1&f=103943429&sc=tw&utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter
BIRTHERS, :suck: :poop: :finger2:
Tennessee state Senate speaker and gubernatorial candidate Ron Ramsey has joined the growing ranks of officials and prominent commentators who say they are unsure of whether President Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen.
If that birth cert was up ur azz, you'd know.
Quote from: Moonglow on April 29, 2010, 10:47:05 PM
Tennessee state Senate speaker and gubernatorial candidate Ron Ramsey has joined the growing ranks of officials and prominent commentators who say they are unsure of whether President Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen.
If that birth cert was up ur azz, you'd know.
Ramsey should be forced to show his birth certificate to anyone he meets.
I have lived in fear with thoughts of the damage an inexperienced, lying, leftist-ideologue can do to our nation ever since 0 Bama's core beliefs slipped out. If not held in check through free elections, we can lose all we have worked and died for over the years.
No matter who he decides to be this week (he changes so much who can keep up) the one consistant quality is how he has turned out to be an inexperienced follower of his socialist senior congressional far leftys and certainly no leader of the free world. He cannot tell the difference between what looks good on paper and works on the ground, lacks common sense and simply cannot distinguish fact from fiction. His narcissistic pride aids him in completely disregarding the truth. His only asset, his charisma, is failing him. The man of many names fooled some of the people and got him elected, but not now. This is his undoing.
How can anyone be comforted at the thought of having him at the helm. Fortunately, he is no card player either. 0 Bama showed his hand before all bets were on the table. He kisses the babies to steal the candy out of their mouth.
Quote from: Doc on October 22, 2010, 04:23:46 PM
I have lived in fear with thoughts of the damage an inexperienced, lying, leftist-ideologue can do to our nation
Awww.... don't be so scared Doc. We all lived through the horrible damage of eight years under W. It can't get any worse than that.
Quote from: Doc on October 22, 2010, 04:23:46 PM
I have lived in fear with thoughts of the damage an inexperienced, lying, leftist-ideologue can do to our nation ever since 0 Bama's core beliefs slipped out. If not held in check through free elections, we can lose all we have worked and died for over the years.
No matter who he decides to be this week (he changes so much who can keep up) the one consistant quality is how he has turned out to be an inexperienced follower of his socialist senior congressional far leftys and certainly no leader of the free world. He cannot tell the difference between what looks good on paper and works on the ground, lacks common sense and simply cannot distinguish fact from fiction. His narcissistic pride aids him in completely disregarding the truth. His only asset, his charisma, is failing him. The man of many names fooled some of the people and got him elected, but not now. This is his undoing.
How can anyone be comforted at the thought of having him at the helm. Fortunately, he is no card player either. 0 Bama showed his hand before all bets were on the table. He kisses the babies to steal the candy out of their mouth.
Doc, just where do you come up with all of these bullshit statements about Obama. Don't you listen to anything but Fox, Rush and all of the religious Christian Taliban dumbasses.
Why don't you come and stay and answer some question about your misguided and far out racist views. All you do is come and put out some Christian Taliban drive by bombs of racist remarks and slither back into the depths of the Unknown Zone. MAN UP Doc! Back up your statements.
The fear of the Black Boogie Man who lives under your bed and tries to get you at night. Should have went away at the age of, at least 5 year old. Have you ever thought of getting mental help. A mind is a terrible thing to loose. I think you have lost yours. Let us pray :pray: Let's say it together and say his name. In the name of Jesuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus. Save us from the Black boogie man. Boo, Boo, Boo did I scare you. :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl.
Yeah doc, provide a link or two, back up your statements. :rolleyes:
Doc = Cyber-herpes. . . Irritating as hell and s/he keeps coming back!
Quote from: Palehorse on October 22, 2010, 07:28:41 PM
Doc = Cyber-herpes. . . Irritating as hell and s/he keeps coming back!
Getting rid of him is like getting rid of a infestation of bed bugs. Even professional exterminators says they are a hard bunch of blood suckers :suck: to get rid of. Stamp out bed bugs and Doc.
There is no doubt Obama is a US citizen. I think the question is - Is he a natural born citizen? Regardless, I think there are much more important issues to worry about. My latest concern is that I understand the Obama administration has declared a war on potatoes. I hear they want to greatly reduce the amount of potatoes that are serve in school lunches. Why pick on the lowly potato, a poor vegetable that is born and lives its youth under ground? If they want to target an evil vegetable why don't they go after okra?
Quote from: Lester Sasquatch on October 23, 2010, 09:40:42 AM
If they want to target an evil vegetable why don't they go after okra?
Or brussel sprouts!
I'm sayin' yams. Both brussel sprouts and okra are good when properly prepared.
Quote from: me on October 23, 2010, 02:22:31 PM
I'm sayin' yams. Both brussel sprouts and okra are good when properly prepared.
How about beets. Hell, let's get goose berries. they're fruits. :biggrin:
http://heraldbulletin.com/breakingnews/x530798013/Hawaii-wont-release-Obama-birth-info (http://heraldbulletin.com/breakingnews/x530798013/Hawaii-wont-release-Obama-birth-info)
Damn. . . These friggin jackasses are like roaches! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
Hum, wasn't he given the name Barry at birth and changed it later? Probably just a misprint or something.
It was a nickname, short for Barack. His deciding to change it is similar to people who decide to become Jim instead of Jimmy, Nick instead of Nicky and Patricia instead of Patty, etc. It wasn't anything sneaky and I'm not sure what your point is.
http://www.newsweek.com/2008/03/22/when-barry-became-barack.html
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 23, 2011, 08:11:09 AM
It was a nickname, short for Barack. His deciding to change it is similar to people who decide to become Jim instead of Jimmy, Nick instead of Nicky and Patricia instead of Patty, etc. It wasn't anything sneaky and I'm not sure what your point is.
http://www.newsweek.com/2008/03/22/when-barry-became-barack.html
I think her point is, you can't make a whore into a housewife, a silk purse from a sow's ear and a intelligent person from a Teabagger. This what you have here. Stuuuuuuuuuuuuupid! :biggrin:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 23, 2011, 08:11:09 AM
It was a nickname, short for Barack. His deciding to change it is similar to people who decide to become Jim instead of Jimmy, Nick instead of Nicky and Patricia instead of Patty, etc. It wasn't anything sneaky and I'm not sure what your point is.
http://www.newsweek.com/2008/03/22/when-barry-became-barack.html
Nothing I thought his given name was Barry is all and was just asking.
Quote from: The Troll on January 23, 2011, 10:08:32 AM
I think her point is, you can't make a whore into a housewife, a silk purse from a sow's ear and a intelligent person from a Teabagger. This what you have here. Stuuuuuuuuuuuuupid! :biggrin:
Excuse me Troll. I do not appreciate the insinuation you made with your statement in the least. It was uncalled for and totally out of line.
Wait a minute. . . I thought you said stupid was acceptable????
Quote from: me on January 23, 2011, 07:57:42 PM
Excuse me Troll. I do not appreciate the insinuation you made with your statement in the least. It was uncalled for and totally out of line.
Totally out of line? HA! :biggrin: As long as you try to make something out of Obama's name, you say anything about Obama not being born in America and your line of thinking about how you think about people other than your kind, stupid Teabaggers. Your thinking about unions and union people and poor working people and Democrats. I'm going to be out of line all of the time.
If you think I am sorry or worried about your not appreaciating and my insinutation I make, tough crap, Baby Cakes. :kiss:
How god damn stupid do these dumb asses have to be, mainly Teabaggers to think that Obama is not an American born citizen. :knife: Brain dead!
Quote from: The Troll on January 23, 2011, 09:15:51 PM
Totally out of line? HA! :biggrin: As long as you try to make something out of Obama's name, you say anything about Obama not being born in America and your line of thinking about how you think about people other than your kind, stupid Teabaggers. Your thinking about unions and union people and poor working people and Democrats. I'm going to be out of line all of the time.
If you think I am sorry or worried about your not appreaciating and my insinutation I make, tough crap, Baby Cakes. :kiss:
How god damn stupid do these dumb asses have to be, mainly Teabaggers to think that Obama is not an American born citizen. :knife: Brain dead!
I did not say anything about him not being born in America and I simply asked a question. I wasn't referring to the stupid part of your statement either. I know I'm not stupid and what you think doesn't make a shit to me one way or the other it was the housewife part of the statement that was rude crude and I did not appreciate the insinuation in the least. If you can't express yourself any better than an elementary school child or some gutter snipe you'd better sign up for some people skills classes.
Quote from: Palehorse on January 23, 2011, 09:12:00 PM
Wait a minute. . . I thought you said stupid was acceptable????
:razz:
Quote from: me on January 24, 2011, 04:00:22 AM
I did not say anything about him not being born in America and I simply asked a question. I wasn't referring to the stupid part of your statement either. I know I'm not stupid and what you think doesn't make a shit to me one way or the other it was the housewife part of the statement that was rude crude and I did not appreciate the insinuation in the least. If you can't express yourself any better than an elementary school child or some gutter snipe you'd better sign up for some people skills classes.
MY people skills are of par or better than yours. As far as the housewife statement, "You can't make a whore into a housewife has been around for more than, at least 100 years. This statement was not made by elementary school children, it was made by adults. Where in hell do you think I first heard it. I sure didn't hear it at school. I think I heard it in a Christian church. Yeah, that's where I heard it, at a fire and brimstone revival.
I think your sensitivity is really misplaced. Making an issue about an old statement. Then making gutter remarks about union people, poor people and Obama. You are definitely a unusual person Sweetie Pie, :kiss:
I guess I should have just considered the source and moved on but for you to jump my ass for asking a question is a bit over the top IMO. That happened to be something I had never heard and, yes, I took offense to it because you were inferring that about me as far as I was concerned and I didn't appreciate it. Ain't gonna let an opinionated old fart push my buttons today though 'cause it just ain't worth it so don't bother with the insults 'cause you're only showing your ignorance and inability to communicate like a human being.
Quote from: me on January 24, 2011, 10:23:48 AM
I guess I should have just considered the source and moved on but for you to jump my ass for asking a question is a bit over the top IMO. That happened to be something I had never heard and, yes, I took offense to it because you were inferring that about me as far as I was concerned and I didn't appreciate it. Ain't gonna let an opinionated old fart push my buttons today though 'cause it just ain't worth it so don't bother with the insults 'cause you're only showing your ignorance and inability to communicate like a human being.
Yes, it's tough being old farts like us. You're so sensitive, so modest and kind to all. If being a human being is like being like you or your ilk count me out. I'll bet you a real good person to your personal friends and family, but oh watch out if your union, poor and black. And don't let anyone cross you because you would cut them to the bone. Not a bit of generosity in you whole black heart.
I can say one thing I never met someone quite like you and Henry. :knife: Brain dead. You're fine examples of Republicans. :yes:
So don't give me all of that ignorance and that being a human being bull shit, cause you don't fit the bill.
As far as this tread goes, I've had enough of just plain stupidity.