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'I don't know whether Obama's a U.S. citizen'

Started by Doc, February 05, 2010, 08:52:04 AM

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LOsborne

Quote from: me on February 06, 2010, 11:47:47 AM
If a person believes like we do then we don't think they're wrong or inciting just as you wouldn't if it were someone who believed as you do.

Hate to admit it, but this is a logical response, to which I would respond "hell, yeah" if I had had a beer or four.

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followsthewolf

Quote from: LOsborne on February 06, 2010, 01:58:08 PM
Hate to admit it, but this is a logical response, to which I would respond "hell, yeah" if I had had a beer or four.


To which I reply, "Cheers!"
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

followsthewolf

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 06, 2010, 01:20:08 PM
the only thing I can tell you IS...I will ALWAYS support people who believe like I DO!!....and if they were wrong, I would NOT support them.......but the reason I DO support them is because they are RIGHT...
seriously....THIS is the reason I have been contemplating a hiatus from here.......you guys are so arrogant...you can't stand ANYONE who does not bow down and suck up to Obama....but, it was perfectly fine to do so to Bush.....

I have given a billion reasons WHY I don't like liberal views....and EVERY damn time, I hear...."you can't think for yourself...you just think that way because RUSH said so"........and that is so much BS...you are driving me nuts....it happens to be, Rush is popular because he agrees with a LARGE number of hard working, thinking, everyday, common folks out there....the very folks who just ran out democrats in Mass, NJ, and Virginia........

It is YOU guys who are sheeple and mimicking the liberal media, by calling these folks who disagree with this admin..."teabaggers"......

the bottom line for me is..........TIME is going to tell the truth...and it is slowly revealing itself, every day....Americans are waking up to this disaster that is going on.....



SEE!...I am TRYING to get away from this BS....but you guys are TOO blind to see the truth....you are too arrogant to get over yourselves....

AHHHHHG!!..


okay......back to regular programming....


Henry,

The reason that I find Doc repulsive to listen to is because of statements like this:

"They should do away with the constitution and just follow the laws in the good book and we'd be allright."

Tell me how one defends such a ridiculous statement. Doesn't your conservative ethic condemn him to being anti-American with such a statement. And, before you answer, consider what document defines what it is to be an American in the first place.

I think his statement speaks for itself.

P.S. He posted it on November 21, 2009
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me

 
Quote from: followsthewolf on February 06, 2010, 12:02:15 PM
You know, "me," you threw in aside about the drug usage, but weren't all you folks indignant as heck when Dubya's alcohol problem in his younger days was brought up?

So, you see, the crap just goes 'round and 'round with no purpose because some people just won't let it go.

All the problems Bush exhibited that you defended back then are the things you want to get into now.

Guys like Doc spend their time in those cesspools just digging around, trying to find more useless, time-consuming, wheel-spinning insignificant molehills to pump into mountains.


Now read what I posted real close.  I did not agree that he wasn't a citizen nor did I get bent out of shape because he admitted to doing drugs like ya'll did about Bush's alcohol usage.  What I did question was why he didn't want his college records released which, if he already admitted to something the opposition could use against him, should be no big deal if he's not trying to hide something.

Quote from: me on February 05, 2010, 11:28:22 AM
Although I think he probably is a citizen he has brought all this on himself by hiding things about himself like his college records and such.  What's the big deal?  I mean if he did so well in college and was a bright student why not allow them to release his college records? He already admitted to doing drugs during his college years so what's the harm in knowing the rest?
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followsthewolf

I read what you posted "real close."

The whole post contained points that don't mean squat.

At this juncture, he IS the POTUS.

Let us concern ourselves with the more important matters that have meaning for the future of the United States.

Doc can't get past all the insignificant trivia that has been the hallmark of most of the objections to Obama and his policies in the first place. They still think they can pull some kind of "jury nullification" of whatever he has done/will do. Doc has nothing significant to add.

I'm done with this.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

me

Now read it again as I intended it not how your are taking it.  You cannot argue the fact that he has set a lot of things about his past to off limits but yet dug into the past of others who opposed him or did not agree with him and used it against them. 

QuoteQuote from: me on February 05, 2010, 11:28:22 AM

    Although I think he probably is a citizen he has brought all this on himself by hiding things about himself like his college records and such.  What's the big deal?  I mean if he did so well in college and was a bright student why not allow them to release his college records? He already admitted to doing drugs during his college years so what's the harm in knowing the rest?


Quote from: followsthewolf on February 06, 2010, 03:18:56 PM
I read what you posted "real close."

The whole post contained points that don't mean squat.

At this juncture, he IS the POTUS.

Let us concern ourselves with the more important matters that have meaning for the future of the United States.

Doc can't get past all the insignificant trivia that has been the hallmark of most of the objections to Obama and his policies in the first place. They still think they can pull some kind of "jury nullification" of whatever he has done/will do. Doc has nothing significant to add.

I'm done with this.
Trump 2020

Henry Hawk

Quote from: followsthewolf on February 06, 2010, 03:01:15 PM

Henry,

The reason that I find Doc repulsive to listen to is because of statements like this:

"They should do away with the constitution and just follow the laws in the good book and we'd be allright."

Tell me how one defends such a ridiculous statement. Doesn't your conservative ethic condemn him to being anti-American with such a statement. And, before you answer, consider what document defines what it is to be an American in the first place.

I think his statement speaks for itself.

P.S. He posted it on November 21, 2009

first of all, when you compared me to Dan Foster.........THAT was punch to the gut......he is obnoxious and a bigot....he clearly has hatred, he spews it all the time....I don't believe I have ever lowered myself to THAT level.....he, along with others on here, take personal pot shots at those who disagree with them...

secondly, Doc also has passionate opinions....and EVERYTIME he says anything on here, he is attacked....why not let him say his two cents and if you don't want dialogue back with him, ignore him, as I do Dan....

but, this is only my two cents.....I am getting used to "liberal obnoxiousness"....that seems to be the norm any more....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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followsthewolf

Henry, you took a whole lot of things way too personally. The comparison I made was because of your reference to him in a previous post. As I said before, I don't agree with all of what he says, but he has been here for some time and has established his bona fides, as you have, certainly. I don't agree with a lot of what you say, either, but, when the "discussion" is over, it's over.

When Doc makes a statement like the one about the Constitution, it displays to me one of two things:
     1. a complete lack of thought about making ridiculous comments, or,
     2. he really does believe it; in which case he really is a whacko

Do you agree with his statement?

As to the "liberal obnoxiousness" --
       If you think that I'm obnoxious because I'm sick of going over the same old ground about the president's birthplace, etc., you have that right. But when someone makes absurd statements like the one about the Constitution and then regresses to the muckraking crap that the birthers espouse, yeah, I get a little upset about massive stupidity, and I will attack it ruthlessly. My country is based on the Constitution, and when someone makes a jackass statement like that, he has taken off the gloves, as far as I am concerned. Whoever jumps in the fray to defend that kind of vacuous thinking will suffer by contact.

He admitted that he comes here occasionally to bring things to light. He brings nothing to light. All he does is bring crap back that we've gone over in this forum many time before. He doesn't have a clue about what the dynamics of this forum are, but he ignorantly butts in, drops a load, and is gone.

If he comes here to take another mental dump, I'll be here to greet him.

He chooses to come here, and he chooses to post in the "unmoderated" part of the forum.

Let him defend himself -- if he can. Otherwise, he should choose another part of the forum in which to post
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

LOsborne

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 06, 2010, 06:46:25 PM
... Doc also has passionate opinions....and EVERYTIME he says anything on here, he is attacked....why not let him say his two cents and if you don't want dialogue back with him, ignore him....
Damned well told, Hank.

Henry Hawk

FTW, first of all, you know I have no REAL problem with you....whatsoever.

and you are correct, that it IS an unmoderated section, so all is fair...............

I am simply stating MY opinion and perspective of a few things...thats all.

as far as Doc, HE is not complaining, and he seems to be taking it just fine....

It is more me that is letting things get under my skin lately...as you know, It is ALL good, or I would NOT be here..... :razz:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

followsthewolf

Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on February 06, 2010, 06:46:25 PM
... Doc also has passionate opinions....and EVERYTIME he says anything on here, he is attacked....why not let him say his two cents and if you don't want dialogue back with him, ignore him....

Quote from: LOsborne on February 06, 2010, 07:55:33 PM
Damned well told, Hank.

?!?!?!?

I don't get the logic behind either of your comments.

Isn't the point of putting oneself out in the marketplace of ideas - i.e.: a forum  etc. - to test the validity of one's positions by receiving arguments for and against one's positions?

I suggest that if that's not the case, then I agree with FTW - you're nothing but a spammer - and simply trying to shove an 'opinion' down everyone's throat.  I also see it in a similar light if one cannot - or will not - defend the positions they espouse.
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Tennessee state Senate speaker and gubernatorial candidate Ron Ramsey has joined the growing ranks of officials and prominent commentators who say they are unsure of whether President Barack Obama is a U.S. citizen.

Well how do I know that this Ramsey guy is a citizen?  Don't tell me it is because he has a birth certificate because it could be a fake.  Don't tell me because his mama lives here because maybe it isn't really his mama.  Don't tell me he has no hidden family members in other countries, because one of the rag magazines will find someone who is! 

You are so right!  How do I know YOU are a citizen?  :rolleyes:
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