This is from an email I got.....it seemed like a good thing to post here........I have been quite, (for a reason)....but THIS says alot, imo....
• If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn`t buy one.
• If a liberal doesn't like guns, he feels that no one should have one.
• If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
• If a liberal is, he wants to ban all meat products for everyone.
• If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
• A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
• If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
• If a liberal is homosexual, he loudly demands legislated respect.
• If a black man or Hispanic are conservative, they see themselves as independently successful.
• Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.
• If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
• A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
• If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
• Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
• If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
• A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God or religion silenced.
• If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
• A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
:boredone:
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• If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn`t buy one.
• If a liberal doesn't like guns, he feels that no one should have one.
I'm a liberal. I own several guns. Some of them are big, shiny ones.
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• If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
• A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
This doesn't even deserve an answer. :rolleyes:
Quote
• If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
• If a liberal is homosexual, he loudly demands legislated respect.
The conservative really tells everyone how to lead their lives, while he quietly does the opposite.
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• If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
• Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
True personal experience. Several years ago, when we first got cable TV in our neighborhood, some old bitty complained about MTV and the cable company took it off. ONE complaint, mind you.
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• If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
• A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God or religion silenced.
But the conservative condemns those who don't go to church (and those liberals who do) as "godless liberals."
Quote from: Olias on September 29, 2009, 11:45:54 AM
True personal experience. Several years ago, when we first got cable TV in our neighborhood, some old bitty complained about MTV and the cable company took it off. ONE complaint, mind you.
Or complains about the president addressing school children so none of the kids get to see it?
Quote from: Exterminator on September 29, 2009, 11:55:12 AM
Or complains about the president addressing school children so none of the kids get to see it?
True that!
Quote from: Olias on September 29, 2009, 11:45:54 AM
I'm a liberal. I own several guns. Some of them are big, shiny ones.
This doesn't even deserve an answer. :rolleyes:
The conservative really tells everyone how to lead their lives, while he quietly does the opposite.
True personal experience. Several years ago, when we first got cable TV in our neighborhood, some old bitty complained about MTV and the cable company took it off. ONE complaint, mind you.
But the conservative condemns those who don't go to church (and those liberals who do) as "godless liberals."
Thought you were a libertarian. :razz:
Quote from: me on September 29, 2009, 01:57:59 PM
Thought you were a libertarian. :razz:
Libertarians are social liberals. :rolleyes:
Quote from: Exterminator on September 29, 2009, 01:58:39 PM
Libertarians are social liberals. :rolleyes:
So what you're saying is a liberal is a Democrat that's social....
Quote from: me on September 29, 2009, 02:00:18 PM
So what you're saying is a liberal is a Democrat that's social....
LOL...uh, no.
Quote from: Exterminator on September 29, 2009, 02:16:18 PM
LOL...uh, no.
What I meant to say and realized what I'd done as soon as I hit post but hubby was paging me was, what you're saying is a libertarian is a democrat that's social.
Quote from: me on September 29, 2009, 02:53:03 PM
What I meant to say and realized what I'd done as soon as I hit post but hubby was paging me was, what you're saying is a libertarian is a democrat that's social.
That's how I read it and again, no. The term 'social liberal' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism) has nothing to do with how gregarious someone is.
Quote from: Exterminator on September 29, 2009, 02:56:43 PM
That's how I read it and again, no. The term 'social liberal' (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_liberalism) has nothing to do with how gregarious someone is.
It was a joke silly.... :razz:
Quote from: me on September 29, 2009, 03:26:23 PM
It was a joke silly.... :razz:
It was funny the
first time. :razz:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 29, 2009, 09:46:45 AM
This is from an email I got.....it seemed like a good thing to post here........I have been quite, (for a reason)....but THIS says alot, imo....
• If a conservative doesn't like guns, he doesn`t buy one.
• If a liberal doesn't like guns, he feels that no one should have one.
• If a conservative is a vegetarian, he doesn`t eat meat.
• If a liberal is, he wants to ban all meat products for everyone.
• If a conservative sees a foreign threat, he thinks about how to defeat his enemy.
• A liberal wonders how to surrender gracefully and still look good.
• If a conservative is homosexual, he quietly leads his life.
• If a liberal is homosexual, he loudly demands legislated respect.
• If a black man or Hispanic are conservative, they see themselves as independently successful.
• Their liberal counterparts see themselves as victims in need of government protection.
• If a conservative is down-and-out, he thinks about how to better his situation.
• A liberal wonders who is going to take care of him.
• If a conservative doesn't like a talk show host, he switches channels.
• Liberals demand that those they don't like be shut down.
• If a conservative is a non-believer, he doesn't go to church.
• A liberal non-believer wants any mention of God or religion silenced.
• If a conservative decides he needs health care, he goes about shopping for it, or may choose a job that provides it.
• A liberal demands that the rest of us pay for his.
So many strawmen, so little time...
Gay republicans bother other men in public restrooms, after having just stood up to vote for anti-gay marriage bans, or a Constitutional amendment to demand everyone accept a religious stance on marriage.
Gun-loving republicans spread fear about obama "coming to take away your guns", so all the gun nuts in the country go out and buy up all weapons and cower in fear in their homes.
War-loving republicans see everyone else in the world as a potential threat and invade at the drop of a hat into wars with no end (mostly to fill the cofers of their defense-industrial buddy's pockets).
God-loving republicans won't leave anyone alone to their own religion or non-belief, but instead insist that the gov't has to "protect" god and jesus and force them down everyone else's throat like the nazi bastards they are.
Talk about the gay officials how about this one.
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Who is this demo. ;D ;D ;D
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Democrats:
1. Wayne Hays (1976): Affair with secretary (one of the first major sex scandals)
2. Allan Howe (1976): Solicited sex with two prostitutes (both of whom were undercover cops)
3. John Young (1976): Staffer alleged sexual harrassment
4. Fred Richmond (1978): Charged with soliciting sex from a 16-year-old boy.
5. Gerry Studds (1983): Reprimanded for having sex with a male teenage House page
6. Gary Hart (1988): Affair with model Donna Rice.
7. Barney Frank (1989): Affair with male prostitute, who also conducted business in Frank's home.
8. Chuck Robb (1991): Admitted to receiving a nude massage from a former Miss Virginia.
9. Brock Adams (1992): Eight women accused him of sexual harassment, abuse, and rape.
10. Mel Reynolds (1994): Sexual relationship with 16-year-old campaign volunteer.
11. Bill Clinton (1998): Affair with intern Monica Lewinsky.
12. Gary Condit (2001): Affair with (murdered) intern Chandra Levy.
13. Paul Patton (2002): Affair with nursing home operator; when the affair ended the state of Kentucky filed numerous violations against her business.
14. Bob Wise (2003): Affair with a state government staffer
15. Jim McGreevey (2004): Resigned as NJ governor after admitting that he is "a gay American"
16. Neil Goldschmidt (2004): Admitted to having a relationship with a 14-year-old girl in the 1970s.
17. Roosevelt Dobbins (2005): Congressman form Arkansas, pleaded guilty to fondling a 16-year-old.
18. Gavin Newsom (2007): Affair with the wife of a top aide.
19. Antonio Villaraigosa (2007): Affair with a television reporter.
20. Tim Mahoney (2008): Admitted to multiple affairs.
21. Eliot Spitzer (2008): Involved in prostitution scandal.
22. Paul Morrison (2008): Affair with administrative staffer while Attorney General of Kansas, pressured her to reveal information about Kansas D.A.
23. Marc Dann (2008): Attorney General of Ohio, had an affair with a staffer.
24. David Paterson (2008): Admitted that both he and his wife had extramarital affairs
25. John Edwards (2008): Had an affair with a campaign employee while running for President.
26. Kwame Kilpatrick (2008): Text messaging sex scandal
27. Sam Adams (2009): Portland, OR mayor lied about relationship with 18-year-old male intern.
TALLY: 27
And I thought it was just Republicans. ;D ;D
Quote from: mr. willy on October 10, 2009, 09:59:56 AM
And I thought it was just Republicans. ;D ;D
The difference there is that the Democrats aren't the ones out there acting holier than thou and trying to cater to the religious right. :wink:
Quote from: Locutus on October 10, 2009, 01:57:59 PM
The difference there is that the Democrats aren't the ones out there acting holier than thou and trying to cater to the religious right. :wink:
Oh, so that makes it ok I guess huh?
QuoteCan a D-e-m spell G-o-d?
Nothing is more transparent than inauthentic expressions of faith -- the politician who shows up at a black church around election time and claps, off rhythm, to the gospel choir. Secularists are wrong when they ask believers to leave their religion at the door before entering into the public square. To say that men and women should not inject their personal morality into public policy debates is a practical absurdity.
Those aren't my words. I'm quoting. And who am I quoting? You might guess an evangelical Christian leader. Perhaps even a Republican strategist or conservative lawmaker. But would guess a Democratic senator? Those are the words of Senator Barack Obama, addressing a bipartisan religious conference sponsored by Sojourners founder Rev. Jim Wallis.
Obama had strong words for the Democratic party, both in his speech and in an interview I conducted with him afterwards, about the party's historic aversion to talk about faith. Faith is a very big part of the life of many Americans, contends Obama, and for Democrats to not talk about religion or even try to understand a person's faith is to eliminate almost all possibility of communicating meaningfully with them.
Republicans are great at talking about faith. And they are rewarded for it. In 2004, white evangelicals counted for 23 percent of voters. And they broke overwhelmingly for President Bush. "The biggest mistake the Democrats have made is to cede the entire territory of religion and values to a religious and political right, who then narrow the issues to only two -- abortion and gay marriage -- and then manipulate them politically," says Jim Wallis.
Democrats are trying to correct the mistake. There is a movement afoot led by Obama, the new superstar of the Democratic Party, Hillary Clinton, Howard Dean and others to encourage party members to acknowledge faith as a means to broader communication. Whether it's for a Democratic politician to make public his or her own faith, or simply learn how to talk about it, party leaders believe it could be a foot in the door to get those exurban evangelicals to listen.
Democrats are also trying to expand the field of "moral" and "value" issues to include some of their strengths. For them to play, it needs to be about more than abortion and same-sex marriage. So they're attempting to making moral issues out of poverty, hunger, human rights and "creation care" (a new phrase for "environmentalism"), believing that if there is common ground on belief in the idea of moral values, there might be fertile ground to approach evangelicals on the Iraq war, the deficit and other issues.
Take Virginia Governor Tim Kaine, for example. He talked a lot about his personal religion during his election campaign. Not in terms of politics, but he let people know that he was a person for whom faith was important. He spoke of his mission in Honduras, and he talked about religion as part of his background. On faith issues, he sounded more like a Republican than a Democrat. No one questioned his sincerity. And wouldn't you know it, he won.
Many Democrats acknowledge that they have been the party of secularism for so long that they have alienated a significant part of the electorate. And they want to try to win those voters over. As Senator Obama pointed out, the majority of great reformers in American history -- Frederick Douglas, Abraham Lincoln, Williams Jennings Bryan, Dorothy Day and Martin Luther King among them -- were not only motivated by faith, but repeatedly used religious language to argue for their cause.
Now, certainly this is going to make secularists uncomfortable. They will argue about blurring the line between church and state. But some Democrats have their eyes on another line. The 50 percent line. And they know that unless they can peel off a portion of that growing segment of society that is firmly rooted in the South and now sweeping across the Midwest, they will likely remain the party of the minority and continue to see "red"in the White House.
Posted By John Roberts, CNN Senior Correspondent:
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/blog/2006/06/can-d-e-m-spell-g-o-d.html
QuoteThe difference there is that the Democrats aren't the ones out there acting holier than thou and trying to cater to the religious right. [/quote
http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/anderson.cooper.360/blog/2006/06/can-d-e-m-spell-g-o-d.html
Great. . . another republican parrot! :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on October 10, 2009, 05:13:17 PM
Great. . . another republican parrot! :rolleyes:
But wouldn't it be boring if everyone had the same opinions and beliefs?
Not for you guys, you'd be happy-go-lucky :rolleyes:
Quote from: Palehorse on October 10, 2009, 05:13:17 PM
Great. . . another republican parrot! :rolleyes:
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Quote from: Sandy Eggo on October 10, 2009, 06:57:31 PM
Not for you guys, you'd be happy-go-lucky :rolleyes:
As would you if everyone thought like you did. :razz:
Actually, I'd be happy if everyone would just think.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on October 11, 2009, 12:09:40 AM
Actually, I'd be happy if everyone would just think.
We all do it's just that we don't happen to think alike that is why we don't all agree on things. Doesn't make anyone stupid or less knowledgeable we all have different ideas about what we want in life. Two people with the same IQ can look at a job and go about doing it different doesn't make one way wrong just means that one of them had different goals in mind when they set out to do the job. Some people will like one out come better than the other and some may change their minds about which outcome they liked best and some might not like either outcome but that is life.
If all minds were to think alike we would never get anywhere, innovation would be stifled, and this country would not be as great as it is. Think about it, what do you think would happen if everyone always agreed with everything? There would never be discussion or debate about anything at all. ;D ;D
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on October 11, 2009, 12:09:40 AM
Actually, I'd be happy if everyone would just think.
Exactly. Give me some validation that is real for your opinions and perspectives and I'll consider them. Just don't run around parroting lies. . . :rolleyes:
Quote from: mr. willy on October 11, 2009, 09:20:30 AM
If all minds were to think alike we would never get anywhere, innovation would be stifled, and this country would not be as great as it is. Think about it, what do you think would happen if everyone always agreed with everything? There would never be discussion or debate about anything at all. ;D ;D
And there would be no reason to....if everyone was in agreement.
QuoteIf all minds were to think alike we would never get anywhere,
What would are Country be like today if everyone always agreed with everything? Think about !!!!
Quote from: Palehorse on October 11, 2009, 09:59:46 AM
Exactly. Give me some validation that is real for your opinions and perspectives and I'll consider them. Just don't run around parroting lies. . . :rolleyes:
That is where the difference comes in. To us your validation is just as false as ours is to you. We all view the facts differently and have different opinions about what the outcome will be of any given action. You are being told by the media that what we are saying is a lie and you believe it and on the other hand you won't look at proof because you are told it is false and you believe it. You show facts based on what you've been told and we don't believe them or prove they're skewed and you won't believe it. Yes, some of the facts from this side are skewed but you have to look at the picture as a whole you can't just see one side. Weigh the problem as a whole and look ahead at the possible outcome don't just look at the present learn from the past and look toward the future and figure out if the good really does outweigh the bad. Once you take off the candy coated outside and look at the inside it may not look so good.
And your utilization of falsehoods to support an unreasonable line of thinking flies in the face of logic and is totally unacceptable. Your steadfast refusal to recognize hard evidence that clearly disputes your position, only serves to further detract from your intended messages.
Quote from: Palehorse on October 11, 2009, 12:07:12 PM
And your utilization of falsehoods to support an unreasonable line of thinking flies in the face of logic and is totally unacceptable. Your steadfast refusal to recognize hard evidence that clearly disputes your position, only serves to further detract from your intended messages.
There is no
hard evidence that any of the proposals are going to work just theory and what seems like it will work in theory don't always work in practicality.
Obviously no one can predict the future. Will it work or won't it is anybody's guess, but when you base your guess on distorted facts and don't seem to know or care...that's what I have a problem with
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QuoteAnd your utilization of falsehoods to support an unreasonable line of thinking flies in the face of logic
Thats your opinion right...
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on October 11, 2009, 02:12:28 PM
Obviously no one can predict the future. Will it work or won't it is anybody's guess, but when you base your guess on distorted facts and don't seem to know or care...that's what I have a problem with
And it is only your "opinion" that our facts are distorted because you are being told they are.
QuoteGive me some validation that is real for your opinions and perspectives and I'll consider them.
Where are your opinions palehorse and any validation of them. ;D ;D
Quote from: mr. willy on October 11, 2009, 09:05:27 PM
Where are your opinions palehorse and any validation of them. ;D ;D
Actually, this forum is replete with Palehorse's opinions and supporting evidence. :yes: ;D
Quote from: mr. willy on October 11, 2009, 09:05:27 PM
Where are your opinions palehorse and any validation of them. ;D ;D
You might want to take some time to research any of multiple threads in this forum where you will find many opinions expressed by palehorse -- all of which are substantially supported with evidence -- so that you don't risk making such huge gaffes in the future and exposing a simple troll mind.
Quote from: mr. willy on October 11, 2009, 09:05:27 PM
Where are your opinions palehorse and any validation of them. ;D ;D
What they are telling you is true about PH having posted many opinions along with the validations for his opinions. I don't always agree with them but he does always back up what he is saying with his reasons for saying it.
Quote from: mr. willy on October 11, 2009, 10:45:49 AM
What would are Country be like today if everyone always agreed with everything? Think about !!!!
I wonder what it would be like if everyone could simply read.
QuoteWhat they are telling you is true about PH having posted many opinions along with the validations for his opinions. I don't always agree with them but he does always back up what he is saying with his reasons for saying it.
I do not see any on this thread if so point them out. :) :) only criticizing other posters opinion. :) :) :)
Quote from: me on October 11, 2009, 06:00:52 PM
And it is only your "opinion" that our facts are distorted because you are being told they are.
Uh, no. It's my opinion that your "facts" are distorted because they are different from the original and verifiable sources. None of you right-wingdings verify sources. All that matters to you is that they support your own preconceived nuttiness.
Quote from: Exterminator on October 12, 2009, 08:19:26 AM
I wonder what it would be like if everyone could simply read.
Exactly! :biggrin:
Quote from: me on October 11, 2009, 11:20:00 PM
What they are telling you is true about PH having posted many opinions along with the validations for his opinions. I don't always agree with them but he does always back up what he is saying with his reasons for saying it.
That was an extremely gracious (and true) comment.
Thank you for allowing your intelligence to overcome your usual rhetoric.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on October 12, 2009, 11:03:16 AM
Uh, no. It's my opinion that your "facts" are distorted because they are different from the original and verifiable sources. None of you right-wingdings verify sources. All that matters to you is that they support your own preconceived nuttiness.
are you on drugs?
Quote from: mr. willy on October 12, 2009, 08:53:54 AM
I do not see any on this thread if so point them out. :) :) only criticizing other posters opinion. :) :) :)
That's probably a better-than-average clue that you ought to familiarize yourself with the forum and the posters thereon before you begin to make gross assumptions based on no facts whatsoever -- the very sin you accuse ph of committing.
But, then again, that is your right -- to make egregious errors and then generate weak spin in an attempt to justify said commentary.
Where have I seen that ploy before.
Quote from: mr. willy on October 11, 2009, 09:05:27 PM
Where are your opinions palehorse and any validation of them. ;D ;D
Well Slick, first of all you are a newbie so do yourself a favor and execute a little research before undertaking an attack.
You might want to start here since you appear to want to ride the bucking bronc: (A little light reading for you)
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=13389.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=13389.0)
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=15663.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=15663.0)
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=2623.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=2623.0)
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=13555.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=13555.0)
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=1656.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=1656.0)
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=15404.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=15404.0)
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=15667.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=15667.0)
http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=15660.0 (http://theunknownzone.us/smf/index.php?topic=15660.0)
Now. . . once you've done your homework come on back to the playground and see if you can sit on the porch with the big dogs. :rolleyes:
Quote from: followsthewolf on October 12, 2009, 01:42:02 PM
But, then again, that is your right -- to make egregious errors and then generate weak spin in an attempt to justify said commentary.
Where have I seen that ploy before.
Davejar! :icon_twisted:
:yes: :biggrin:
Davetard? OMG! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
Shhh...he's still creeping around. Ugh.
QuoteI do not see any on this thread if so point them out.
Apparently you cannot read [THIS THREAD] Palehorse
Conservatives....Liberals... « 1 2 3 4 »
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Quote from: mr. willy on October 12, 2009, 04:23:49 PM
Apparently you cannot read [THIS THREAD] Palehorse
Conservatives....Liberals... « 1 2 3 4 »
Anybody else predict this tired response?
:bsflag: :poser
spin, spin, spinThis lame defense simply makes you sound worse.
And how often do you guy's read through an entire forum before you start posting when you happen to go to a new one?
Damn guys lay off......attack, attack, attack.....I agree with me....give the guy a break.....palehorse can handle himself on this.....
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 12, 2009, 08:12:54 PM
Damn guys lay off......attack, attack, attack.....I agree with me....give the guy a break.....palehorse can handle himself on this.....
A question for me and Hank. Do you have children?
Quote from: mr. willy on October 12, 2009, 04:23:49 PM
Apparently you cannot read [THIS THREAD] Palehorse
Conservatives....Liberals... « 1 2 3 4 »
And apparently you are too lazy to read Slick.
I do not chew my cabbage twice; if you're so interested in my perspectives I've already provided more than sufficient information to give you a pretty good idea where I stand on things.
Your non-responsive replies are clearly indicative of one spoiling for an argument. Go elsewhere troll lest you feel my heels upon your head.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 12, 2009, 08:12:54 PM
Damn guys lay off......attack, attack, attack.....I agree with me....give the guy a break.....palehorse can handle himself on this.....
Ok, Henry.
And when some new troll arrives to attack YOU?
We'll lay off him, too.
You're on your own.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 12, 2009, 12:20:18 PM
are you on drugs?
You reached into your grabbag of responses and that's the best you can come up with?
You and "me" and countless other rightwingdings have proven time and time again that you'd pass over the truth for sources which spin it your way.
Quote from: Palehorse on October 12, 2009, 10:24:49 PM
And apparently you are too lazy to read Slick.
I do not chew my cabbage twice; if you're so interested in my perspectives I've already provided more than sufficient information to give you a pretty good idea where I stand on things.
QuoteApparently you cannot read [THIS THREAD] Palehorse
Conservatives....Liberals... « 1 2 3 4 »
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Quoteattack, attack, attack.....
Your non-responsive replies are clearly indicative of one spoiling for an argument. Go elsewhere troll lest you feel my heels upon your head.
attack, attack,attack :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Its your non responce to this thread..
Quote from: followsthewolf on October 13, 2009, 06:17:09 AM
Ok, Henry.
And when some new troll arrives to attack YOU?
We'll lay off him, too.
You're on your own.
I get drilled DAILY on here.......this guy has done NOTHING...he has only posted nine times when YOU guys attacked him..........give him a chance to find what this place is all about...or USED to be.
I went back and read what willie posted........he ASKED PH.....
Where are your opinions palehorse and any validation of them.....Oh MY GOSH....EVERYBODY jump on this guy and smack him around... :rolleyes:
Palehorse responded back and you kept on and on..................you guys suck!! :icon_twisted:
this place is NOT what it once was.... :no:
Do you want some cheese to go with that whine?
Quote from: Exterminator on October 13, 2009, 08:48:40 AM
Do you want some cheese to go with that whine?
do you have some?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 13, 2009, 08:49:22 AM
do you have some?
I could give you some fromunda. :biggrin:
Quote from: Exterminator on October 13, 2009, 08:51:24 AM
I could give you some fromunda. :biggrin:
:puke: My day would have been JUST fine without THAT comment.... :puke:
Now seriously have I done this and If so please point it out.
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Quote from: mr. willy on October 13, 2009, 08:06:33 AM
attack, attack,attack :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Its your non responce to this thread..
"Response" you bonehead. Even when the correct spelling is provided to you within the quoted post, you remain too lazy to even look up and see it. The forum even provides a nice little feature called spell check. (Last button on your right within the posting screen, directly below your posts). Learn to use it.
:finger01: :whatever: :rolleyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 13, 2009, 08:47:15 AM
I get drilled DAILY on here.......this guy has done NOTHING...he has only posted nine times when YOU guys attacked him..........give him a chance to find what this place is all about...or USED to be.
I went back and read what willie posted........he ASKED PH.....Where are your opinions palehorse and any validation of them.....Oh MY GOSH....EVERYBODY jump on this guy and smack him around... :rolleyes:
Palehorse responded back and you kept on and on..................you guys suck!! :icon_twisted:
this place is NOT what it once was.... :no:
He came on with an attitude, spoiling for a fight. Didn't do any homework, just 'tuded up. The attacks you are subjected to are more like family squabbles. He is NOT part of the "family" yet, but he takes liberties like he is --the very definition of a troll.
If someone did that to you, I would defend you just the same, even though I disagree with many of your positions.
"Family" squabbles are different, and this forum is much like a somewhat dysfunctional family. I watch the disagreements, sometimes flinching at the comments, but fairly sure that the nastiness will pass, since everyone on here has a track record for letting it go in the end.
When a stranger enters, no one knows what the motives are, and if they come on strong they are liable to get it back; hence my original cautionary statements.
Perhaps less of a trollish attitude would be better approach.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 13, 2009, 08:47:15 AM
I get drilled DAILY on here.......this guy has done NOTHING...he has only posted nine times when YOU guys attacked him..........give him a chance to find what this place is all about...or USED to be.
And you know me well enough to know how I would have typically responded to this buttmuncher were he/she not a newbie to the forum too.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 13, 2009, 08:47:15 AM
I went back and read what willie posted........he ASKED PH.....Where are your opinions palehorse and any validation of them.....Oh MY GOSH....EVERYBODY jump on this guy and smack him around... :rolleyes:
Humm. . . now you are FOR diplomacy? :biggrin: I See, if we were a government we'd enjoy your staunch support then?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 13, 2009, 08:47:15 AM
Palehorse responded back and you kept on and on..................you guys suck!! :icon_twisted:
this place is NOT what it once was.... :no:
I responded back and he/she continues to troll and thus gets the very same type of response back in spades. I've said it before, shovel shit on me and I'll dump a truckload back onto you and bury you in it.
That being said I will now officially refuse to respond at all to Slick Mr.Willy within this topic again. Lets see where he/she goes next and who the next target on the list is Henry. . .
This COUNTRY is not what it once was! :no:
Perhaps a little less threatening and friendlier attitude from you guy's would be helpful too. You just don't jump down someones throat with both feet right off the bat just because their opinion is different. It would be more considerate to express yourself with a less holier than thou attitude. And ya'll say the right is the aggressive won't discuss in a civil manner mean spirited hate mongering party.... :rolleyes:
Quote from: followsthewolf on October 13, 2009, 01:38:27 PM
He came on with an attitude, spoiling for a fight. Didn't do any homework, just 'tuded up. The attacks you are subjected to are more like family squabbles. He is NOT part of the "family" yet, but he takes liberties like he is --the very definition of a troll.
If someone did that to you, I would defend you just the same, even though I disagree with many of your positions.
"Family" squabbles are different, and this forum is much like a somewhat dysfunctional family. I watch the disagreements, sometimes flinching at the comments, but fairly sure that the nastiness will pass, since everyone on here has a track record for letting it go in the end.
When a stranger enters, no one knows what the motives are, and if they come on strong they are liable to get it back; hence my original cautionary statements.
Perhaps less of a trollish attitude would be better approach.
Quote from: me on October 13, 2009, 01:53:10 PM
Perhaps a little less threatening and friendlier attitude from you guy's would be helpful too. You just don't jump down someones throat with both feet right off the bat just because their opinion is different. It would be more considerate to express yourself with a less holier than thou attitude. And ya'll say the right is the aggressive won't discuss in a civil manner mean spirited hate mongering party.... :rolleyes:
And it was fairly obvious where he was going with his "uber liberal" remarks.
You don't think he was looking for a problem with someone?
If you can't see that, this is going nowhere.
Quote from: followsthewolf on October 13, 2009, 02:09:07 PM
And it was fairly obvious where he was going with his "uber liberal" remarks.
You don't think he was looking for a problem with someone?
If you can't see that, this is going nowhere.
First of all, there is not a bigger fan or supporter of Palehorse than this bird....
and I do like everyone here or I would not stick around.....even Ex.
But, DAMN, this guy may or may not be a troll.....I don't know yet, he had only posted 9 times before he was pounced on.....
and I have been attacked on here, on a personal level, to only find that those I thought would come to my aid, only threw fuel on the fire........so, THING's have changed around here for me.....I don't have quite the same level of desire to prove anything to anybody on here....I post and move on.
btw, Willie, welcome aboard.........this is a tough crowd, but for the most part, are not bad people.
He walked into the bar and started with one of the regulars. His friends came to his aid.
If two of the regulars got into a fray, most of the others would not be really comfortable with the fight, but, as long as no one was getting seriously hurt, would generally stay out of it.
If HE can't see that, he's a fool.
No one would be stupid enough to do that in the real world.
Quote from: followsthewolf on October 13, 2009, 02:09:07 PM
And it was fairly obvious where he was going with his "uber liberal" remarks.
You don't think he was looking for a problem with someone?
If you can't see that, this is going nowhere.
That is the way you perceive anyone who disagrees and have managed to chase most posters away with the name calling, demeaning, and holier than thou, inconsiderate retorts. Yes, this is the no holds barred section but how much heat is someone supposed to have to put up with. You know damn well if someone were to post to you like you and others have posted to Hank, "me", and some other posters you wouldn't like one bit nor would you even try to converse with them again. You can't have an exchange of opinion when one group bullies over another just because they happen to be larger and won't let anyone join the opposing group because they're afraid of more competition and new input. My way or the highway is not a good attitude. :no:
Quote from: me on October 13, 2009, 02:36:36 PM
My way or the highway is not a good attitude.
It works for me! :razz:
Quote from: me on October 13, 2009, 01:53:10 PM
. . . You just don't jump down someones throat with both feet right off the bat just because their opinion is different. . .
That road runs in both directions.
You parrot-heads do indeed flock together don't yah!
He came on with an attitude, spoiling for a fight. Didn't do any homework, just 'tuded up. The attacks you are subjected to are more like family squabbles. He is NOT part of the "family" yet, but he takes liberties like he is --the very definition of a troll.
If someone did that to you, I would defend you just the same, even though I disagree with many of your positions.
"Family" squabbles are different, and this forum is much like a somewhat dysfunctional family. I watch the disagreements, sometimes flinching at the comments, but fairly sure that the nastiness will pass, since everyone on here has a track record for letting it go in the end.
When a stranger enters, no one knows what the motives are, and if they come on strong they are liable to get it back; hence my original cautionary statements.
Perhaps less of a trollish attitude would be better approach.
This old man is ROTFLMBO at Palehorse ;D ;D
Quote from: me on October 13, 2009, 02:36:36 PM
That is the way you perceive anyone who disagrees and have managed to chase most posters away with the name calling, demeaning, and holier than thou, inconsiderate retorts. Yes, this is the no holds barred section but how much heat is someone supposed to have to put up with. You know damn well if someone were to post to you like you and others have posted to Hank, "me", and some other posters you wouldn't like one bit nor would you even try to converse with them again. You can't have an exchange of opinion when one group bullies over another just because they happen to be larger and won't let anyone join the opposing group because they're afraid of more competition and new input. My way or the highway is not a good attitude. :no:
Bet you'd react the same way if someone came up to you with a 'tude. When you are belligerent, you can't expect others to walk away all the time. If you wish to engage, then the chips fall where they may. If that doesn't please you, then YOU walk away.
That is reality.
Quote from: mr. willy on October 13, 2009, 03:55:35 PM
He came on with an attitude, spoiling for a fight. Didn't do any homework, just 'tuded up. The attacks you are subjected to are more like family squabbles. He is NOT part of the "family" yet, but he takes liberties like he is --the very definition of a troll.
If someone did that to you, I would defend you just the same, even though I disagree with many of your positions.
"Family" squabbles are different, and this forum is much like a somewhat dysfunctional family. I watch the disagreements, sometimes flinching at the comments, but fairly sure that the nastiness will pass, since everyone on here has a track record for letting it go in the end.
When a stranger enters, no one knows what the motives are, and if they come on strong they are liable to get it back; hence my original cautionary statements.
Perhaps less of a trollish attitude would be better approach.
This old man is ROTFLMBO at Palehorse ;D ;D
You see, "me," THAT is a troll's attitude -- stirring the pot for a reaction without contributing to the discussion.
Don't you get it yet? He's not here for discussion, just bull. Absolute textbook definition of a troll, expecting you and Henry to pick up the gauntlet for him while he sits back and laughs.
BTW, troll, learn how to quote properly -- you are further displaying ignorance.
I too was wondering what was up with the quoting job that went on there. :confused:
Quote from: Locutus on October 13, 2009, 04:23:33 PM
I too was wondering what was up with the quoting job that went on there. :confused:
Yep. Gotta go up and read the posts above to try to discern who he is quoting and what exactly the quote is. He further confuses the issue by making reference to ph after he quotes me.
Trying to be acerbic, he comes off as very clumsy and inexact, as well as misleading.
http://www.seghea.com/emails/troll.html
QuoteDefinition of a Troll
Use this whenever you have a troll in a discussion group!
You swine. You vulgar little maggot. Don't you know that you are pathetic? You worthless bag of filth. As we say in Texas, I'll bet you couldn't pour piss out of a boot with instructions on the heel. You are a canker. A sore that won't go away. I would rather kiss a lawyer than be seen with you.
You are a fiend and a coward, and you have bad breath. You are degenerate, noxious and depraved. I feel debased just for knowing you exist. I despise everything about you. You are a bloody nardless newbie twit protohominid chromosomally aberrant caricature of a coprophagic cloacal parasitic pond scum and I wish you would go away.
You're a putrescence mass, a walking vomit. You are a spineless little worm deserving nothing but the profoundest contempt. You are a jerk, a cad, a weasel. Your life is a monument to stupidity. You are a stench, a revulsion, a big suck on a sour lemon.
You are a bleating fool, a curdled staggering mutant dwarf smeared richly with the effluvia and offal accompanying your alleged birth into this world. An insensate, blinking calf, meaningful to nobody, abandoned by the puke-drooling, giggling beasts who sired you and then killed themselves in recognition of what they had done.
I will never get over the embarrassment of belonging to the same species as you. You are a monster, an ogre, a malformity. I barf at the very thought of you. You have all the appeal of a paper cut. Lepers avoid you. You are vile, worthless, less than nothing. You are a weed, a fungus, the dregs of this earth. And did I mention you smell?
If you aren't an idiot, you made a world-class effort at simulating one. Try to edit your writing of unnecessary material before attempting to impress us with your insight. The evidence that you are a nincompoop will still be available to readers, but they will be able to access it more rapidly.
You snail-skulled little rabbit. Would that a hawk pick you up, drive its beak into your brain, and upon finding it rancid set you loose to fly briefly before spattering the ocean rocks with the frothy pink shame of your ignoble blood. May you choke on the queasy, convulsing nausea of your own trite, foolish beliefs.
You are weary, stale, flat and unprofitable. You are grimy, squalid, nasty and profane. You are foul and disgusting. You're a fool, an ignoramus. Monkeys look down on you. Even sheep won't have sex with you. You are unreservedly pathetic, starved for attention, and lost in a land that reality forgot.
And what meaning do you expect your delusionally self-important statements of unknowing, inexperienced opinion to have with us? What fantasy do you hold that you would believe that your tiny-fisted tantrums would have more weight than that of a leprous desert rat, spinning rabidly in a circle, waiting for the bite of the snake?
You are a waste of flesh. You have no rhythm. You are ridiculous and obnoxious. You are the moral equivalent of a leech. You are a living emptiness, a meaningless void. You are sour and senile. You are a disease, you puerile one-handed slack-jawed drooling meatslapper.
On a good day you're a half-wit. You remind me of drool. You are deficient in all that lends character. You have the personality of wallpaper. You are dank and filthy. You are asinine and benighted. You are the source of all unpleasantness. You spread misery and sorrow wherever you go.
I cannot believe how incredibly stupid you are. I mean rock-hard stupid. Dehydrated-rock-hard stupid. Stupid so stupid that it goes way beyond the stupid we know into a whole different dimension of stupid. You are trans-stupid stupid. Meta-stupid. Stupid collapsed on itself so far that even the neutrons have collapsed. Stupid gotten so dense that no intellect can escape. Singularity stupid. Blazing hot mid-day sun on Mercury stupid. You emit more stupid in one second than our entire galaxy emits in a year. Quasar stupid. Your writing has to be a troll. Nothing in our universe can really be this stupid. Perhaps this is some primordial fragment from the original big bang of stupid. Some pure essence of a stupid so uncontaminated by anything else as to be beyond the laws of physics that we know. I'm sorry. I can't go on. This is an epiphany of stupid for me. After this, you may not hear from me again for a while. I don't have enough strength left to deride your ignorant questions and half baked comments about unimportant trivia, or any of the rest of this drivel. Duh.
The only thing worse than your logic is your manners. I have snipped away most of what you wrote, because, well... it didn't really say anything. Your attempt at constructing a creative flame was pitiful. I mean, really, stringing together a bunch of insults among a load of babbling was hardly effective... Maybe later in life, after you have learned to read, write, spell, and count, you will have more success. True, these are rudimentary skills that many of us "normal" people take for granted that everyone has an easy time of mastering. But we sometimes forget that there are "challenged" persons in this world who find these things more difficult. If I had known, that this was your case then I would have never read your post. It just wouldn't have been "right". Sort of like parking in a handicap space. I wish you the best of luck in the emotional, and social struggles that seem to be placing such a demand on you.
P.S.: You are hypocritical, greedy, violent, malevolent, vengeful, cowardly, deadly, mendacious, meretricious, loathsome, despicable, belligerent, opportunistic, barratrous, contemptible, criminal, fascistic, bigoted, racist, sexist, avaricious, tasteless, idiotic, brain-damaged, imbecilic, insane, arrogant, deceitful, demented, lame, self-righteous, byzantine, conspiratorial, satanic, fraudulent, libelous, bilious, splenetic, spastic, ignorant, clueless, illegitimate, harmful, destructive, dumb, evasive, double-talking, devious, revisionist, narrow, manipulative, paternalistic, fundamentalist, dogmatic, idolatrous, unethical, cultic, diseased, suppressive, controlling, restrictive, malignant, deceptive, dim, crazy, weird, dystopic, stifling, uncaring, plantigrade, grim, unsympathetic, jargon-spouting, censorious, secretive, aggressive, mind-numbing, arassive, poisonous, flagrant, self-destructive, abusive, socially-retarded, puerile, clueless, and generally Not Good.!
P.P.S.: That means you can go fly a kite and take a long walk off a short pier.
And while we are at it,
You're one brick shy of a load, you aren't operating with a full deck, you're out to sea without a rudder or a sail, you're dimwitted, you're not the sharpest tool in the shed, nor are you the sharpest knife in the drawer, and you're not the brightest bulb in the box. You don't have both oars in the water. You are a couple sandwiches shy of a picnic, a few beers short of a six pack, and a few beans short of a burrito. You have few too many lights out on your Christmas tree. You have had a few too many tackles without a helmet. The wheel's spinning, but the hamster's dead. It's hard to believe you beat 100,000 other sperm. Your elevator doesn't go all the way to the top floor and you're one fry short of a Happy Meal. You are playing a guitar with no strings. The gates are down, and the lights are flashing, but the train isn't coming, and you are a crazy ignoramus who has absolutely no respect for anyone. Get a life!
???????? ;D ;D ;D ;D
I rest my case and will try to never post here again :( :( :( :(
I don't think anyone wants you to leave mr. willy. Perhaps you just got started out on the wrong foot.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 12, 2009, 10:12:06 PM
five
Sorry to take so long to get back to this Hank. So, you have five children. Do you expect them to depend on you for the rest of their lives? In other words, are you raising them to be independent adults, or dependent robots where they can't do anything without you?
Quote from: dan foster on October 14, 2009, 08:03:49 PM
Sorry to take so long to get back to this Hank. So, you have five children. Do you expect them to depend on you for the rest of their lives? In other words, are you raising them to be independent adults, or dependent robots where they can't do anything without you?
being a conservative, of course my kids will be raised, to be accountable for their own actions, know what hard work is, to be respectful of others, revere God, to listen to limbaugh, watch hannity, and NEVER vote democrat........why you ask?
How does one simultaneously teach a child to be accountable for his/her own actions and that there is an invisible man living in the sky working in mysterious ways?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 14, 2009, 10:59:31 PM
being a conservative, of course my kids will be raised, to be accountable for their own actions, know what hard work is, to be respectful of others, revere God, to listen to limbaugh, watch hannity, and NEVER vote democrat........why you ask?
Your inclusion of god, limpball and shamnity in the same line is pretty telling. I assume you want your children to come to all those on their own, not dictated by you, given what to think by you and independent, working adults that don't depend on every little thing for your help, right?
Quote from: dan foster on October 15, 2009, 03:08:55 PM
Your inclusion of god, limpball and shamnity in the same line is pretty telling. I assume you want your children to come to all those on their own, not dictated by you, given what to think by you and independent, working adults that don't depend on every little thing for your help, right?
Listen Dan, I have a 22 year old who is in his 4th year at Ball State and on the dean's list....he is serving his county in the Indiana National Guard, he works and he is a great son, and brother to his siblings.
My 20 year old is in his 2nd year at Ball State, in the Music Program, studying music and wants to be a teacher...he too, is a tremendous kid
I have a daughter who is a freshman in high school, and is an honor student....and two 9 year olds who are outstanding and well behaved kids.....
the only thing I have done with them was love them....we go to church every Sunday and we focus as a family. My two oldest boys, are on and off with going to Church, it is up to them if they go or not.....my daughter goes most of the time, but I do not force her.....my youngest go with us every Sunday.
My Limbaugh and Hannity remark was a joke that flew right over your head......We discuss politics a lot in my family, and my boys both lean to the right, but have some differing views sometimes...they ask for my opinions and I tell them firmly what I believe....but, they have their own minds and lives to live.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 15, 2009, 05:16:14 PM
Listen Dan, I have a 22 year old who is in his 4th year at Ball State and on the dean's list....he is serving his county in the Indiana National Guard, he works and he is a great son, and brother to his siblings.
My 20 year old is in his 2nd year at Ball State, in the Music Program, studying music and wants to be a teacher...he too, is a tremendous kid
I have a daughter who is a freshman in high school, and is an honor student....and two 9 year olds who are outstanding and well behaved kids.....
the only thing I have done with them was love them....we go to church every Sunday and we focus as a family. My two oldest boys, are on and off with going to Church, it is up to them if they go or not.....my daughter goes most of the time, but I do not force her.....my youngest go with us every Sunday.
My Limbaugh and Hannity remark was a joke that flew right over your head......We discuss politics a lot in my family, and my boys both lean to the right, but have some differing views sometimes...they ask for my opinions and I tell them firmly what I believe....but, they have their own minds and lives to live.
A lot of data I didn't ask for. So, do they depend on you for every little thing or are they independent adults? Do you want them to rely on you for everything they are and do? Should take just a couple of sentences to answer.
Quote from: dan foster on October 15, 2009, 09:12:47 PM
A lot of data I didn't ask for. So, do they depend on you for every little thing or are they independent adults? Do you want them to rely on you for everything they are and do? Should take just a couple of sentences to answer.
Don't really care WHAT you asked for....I'm speaking my piece....what makes you think I would want them to rely on me?........I believe I have done my job, along with my wife, in developing outstanding young men, that are proud of this country and their family. You got to give structure to your kids when they are young....you just don't let them make decisions on their own on every issue they want, and hope for the best...
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 15, 2009, 10:25:59 PM
Don't really care WHAT you asked for....I'm speaking my piece....what makes you think I would want them to rely on me?........I believe I have done my job, along with my wife, in developing outstanding young men, that are proud of this country and their family. You got to give structure to your kids when they are young....you just don't let them make decisions on their own on every issue they want, and hope for the best...
Wow, still just can't get to a yes or no, huh? OK, the reason for the question, as I believe you are of the evangelical crowd; if we are all children of god, then do you think the creator would want his creations to be totally dependent on "him", the father, with every action being prayed to "him" as his creation is totally helpless without him?
Do you think that is how a creator/father would want his creations/children to be?
Well, Dan, THAT is what I thought you may be fishing for........
The way I look at is....my boys, now have free will too do what they want, no matter WHAT they may do, I will ALWAYS be there for them...ALWAYS. My LOVE for them is unconditional....but, I have done all of the "raising" of them that I can do...it is THEIR life to live..and can make their own decisions...to FAIL or be SUCCESSFUL....and there IS a price to pay for their actions...
Same way with God.......he gave us His Word (The Bible) for us to know the way........but, it is OUR lives to live and OUR decisions.......He will ALWAYS be there and He has unconditional LOVE for us...we can FAIL OR be SUCCESSFUL...we have a price to pay for our actions....
that is my 2 cents Dan.....did you expect me to say something else?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on October 16, 2009, 08:15:29 AM
Well, Dan, THAT is what I thought you may be fishing for........
The way I look at is....my boys, now have free will too do what they want, no matter WHAT they may do, I will ALWAYS be there for them...ALWAYS. My LOVE for them is unconditional....but, I have done all of the "raising" of them that I can do...it is THEIR life to live..and can make their own decisions...to FAIL or be SUCCESSFUL....and there IS a price to pay for their actions...
Same way with God.......he gave us His Word (The Bible) for us to know the way........but, it is OUR lives to live and OUR decisions.......He will ALWAYS be there and He has unconditional LOVE for us...we can FAIL OR be SUCCESSFUL...we have a price to pay for our actions....
that is my 2 cents Dan.....did you expect me to say something else?
I expected you to state, as most mature adults would do, that they want their children to grow up and be independent, self-reliant and not needy for everything from their parents. That kind of a child would have grown up to be crippled in every sense. So, why is it that for the evangelicals;
"We are nothing and can do nothing without jesus". Would the creator/father of the universe want anything less than mindful, self-reliant "children" and not crippled adults who can't do anything without him? Just speaks to the insanity that is having a "personal relationship with god/jesus".