http://omg.yahoo.com/news/john-travoltas-16-year-old-son-dies-in-bahamas/17122?nc
NASSAU, Bahamas - John Travolta's teenage son, Jett, died in the Bahamas after falling ill and hitting his head at his family's vacation home, police said Friday. A house caretaker found Jett, 16, unconscious in a bathroom late Friday morning. He was taken by ambulance to a Freeport hospital, where he was pronounced dead, according to a statement from chief police superintendent Basil Rahming.
The teenager had last been seen going into the bathroom on Thursday and had a history of seizures, according to the statement. Police said they are planning an autopsy to determine the cause of death.
Another police spokeswoman, Loretta Mackey, said Jett apparently hit his head on the bathtub.
A spokeswoman for Rand Memorial Hospital in Freeport said she could not release any information because of privacy concerns.
Jett was the oldest child of Travolta and his wife, actress Kelly Preston, who also have an 8-year-old daughter. The family arrived on a private plane Tuesday and had been vacationing at their home in the Old Bahama Bay resort community.
"The Travolta family has become like family to us at Old Bahama Bay and we extend our deepest sympathies to them," said Robert Gidel, president of Ginn Resorts, the property's owner.
Mia Farrow has also lost a daughter .....
NEW YORK - Lark Previn, a daughter of actress Mia Farrow whose sister Soon-Yi Previn was at the center of Farrow's messy breakup with Woody Allen, has died. She was 35.
Lark Previn died Christmas Day at New York Methodist Hospital in Brooklyn, the medical examiner's office said. No cause of death was given. A cremation was held Tuesday at Brooklyn's Green-Wood Cemetery.
Lark Previn was born in Vietnam in 1973. She was one of three children adopted by Farrow and her then-husband, conductor Andre Previn. The couple also had three biological children.
Representatives for Farrow and Previn didn't immediately return calls seeking comment.
Farrow adopted two children and had a biological son during her relationship with Allen. She starred in several of Allen's movies during their relationship, which ended in 1992 when she discovered that Allen was having an affair with her adopted daughter Soon-Yi, then 22.
The bitter custody battle that followed featured accusations by Farrow that Allen had sexually abused adopted daughter Dylan, 7. Allen was exonerated of the abuse charges but Farrow won sole custody of the children.
Soon-Yi Previn married Allen, who is 35 years her senior, in 1997. They have two adopted daughters.
The Farrow-Allen custody fight featured court testimony that Farrow favored her biological children over her adopted children, including Lark. A movie producer testified on Allen's behalf that Lark was viewed as a "scullery maid" who "did most of the chores." Farrow's supporters
I saw these. So sad.
I didn't even know he had kids!!!! :spooked: That was a real shock. On some sites there has been speculation that his son was autistic, and they wouldn't acknowledge it because of his religion. He also could have been Epileptic, and needing medication to control seizures. They may have been denying him medication. If that's true there is somethin' veeerrrrry wrong here. :no: I just watched the movie "Lonely Hearts". John has a major roll in that movie, and did pretty good. He was quite large though. Maybe they should have used a different angle or different lens on the camera. :no:
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on January 02, 2009, 11:08:59 PM
I didn't even know he had kids!!!! :spooked: That was a real shock. On some sites there has been speculation that his son was autistic, and they wouldn't acknowledge it because of his religion. He also could have been Epileptic, and needing medication to control seizures. They may have been denying him medication. If that's true there is somethin' veeerrrrry wrong here. :no: I just watched the movie "Lonely Hearts". John has a major roll in that movie, and did pretty good. He was quite large though. Maybe they should have used a different angle or different lens on the camera. :no:
They said what it was on the news tonight and I was going to look it up and forgot what it was. I had never heard of what ever it was.
I just heard a reporter say it was Kawasaki disease. There is a commercial on now but I'm sure they will say what that is. If they don't I'm going to look it up.
http://kidshealth.org/parent/medical/heart/kawasaki.html
Kawasaki disease is an illness that involves the skin, mouth, and lymph nodes, and most often affects kids under age 5. The cause is unknown, but if the symptoms are recognized early, kids with Kawasaki disease can fully recover within a few days. Untreated, it can lead to serious complications that can affect the heart.
Kawasaki disease occurs in 19 out of every 100,000 kids in the United States. It is most common among children of Japanese and Korean descent, but can affect all ethnic groups.
Signs and Symptoms
Kawasaki disease can't be prevented, but usually has telltale symptoms and signs that appear in phases.
The first phase, which can last for up to 2 weeks, usually involves a persistent fever higher than 104° Fahrenheit (39° Celsius) and lasts for at least 5 days.
Other symptoms that typically develop include:
* severe redness in the eyes
* a rash on the stomach, chest, and genitals
* red, dry, cracked lips
* swollen tongue with a white coating and big red bumps
* sore, irritated throat
* swollen palms of the hands and soles of the feet with a purple-red color
* swollen lymph nodes
During the second phase, which usually begins within 2 weeks of when the fever started, the skin on the hands and feet may begin to peel in large pieces. The child also may experience joint pain, diarrhea, vomiting, or abdominal pain. If your child shows any of these symptoms, call your doctor.
Complications
Doctors can manage the symptoms of Kawasaki disease if they catch it early. Symptoms often disappear within just 2 days of the start of treatment. If Kawasaki disease is treated within 10 days of the onset of symptoms, heart problems usually do not develop.
Cases that go untreated can lead to more serious complications, such as vasculitis, an inflammation of the blood vessels. This can be particularly dangerous because it can affect the coronary arteries, which supply blood to the heart.
In addition to the coronary arteries, the heart muscle, lining, valves, and the outer membrane that surrounds the heart can become inflamed. Arrhythmias (changes in the normal pattern of the heartbeat) or abnormal functioning of some heart valves also can occur.
Diagnosis
No single test can detect Kawasaki disease, so doctors usually diagnose it by evaluating the symptoms and ruling out other conditions.
Most kids diagnosed with Kawasaki disease will have a fever lasting 5 or more days and at least four of these symptoms:
* redness in both eyes
* changes around the lips, tongue, or mouth
* changes in the fingers and toes, such as swelling, discoloration, or peeling
* a rash in the trunk or genital area
* a large swollen lymph node in the neck
* red, swollen palms of hands and soles of feet
If Kawasaki disease is suspected, the doctor may order tests to monitor heart function (such as an echocardiogram) and might take blood and urine samples to rule out other conditions, such as scarlet fever, measles, Rocky Mountain spotted fever, juvenile rheumatoid arthritis, or an allergic drug reaction.
Treatment
Treatment should begin as soon as possible, ideally within 10 days of when the fever begins. Usually, a child is treated with intravenous doses of gamma globulin (purified antibodies), an ingredient of blood that helps the body fight infection. The child also might be given a high dose of aspirin to reduce the risk of heart problems.
Reviewed by: Joel Klein, MD
Date reviewed: October 2008
Very interesting. I've never heard of it.
I never had either.
The reports I read indicated a seizure is what killed him. . .
Dr. Sanjay Gupta said it's almost unheard of, for a sixteen year old to have symptoms of Kawasaki disease. He said most people with it grow out of it. :spooked: I'm leaning more towards Epilepsy that was left untreated. I hope that wasn't the case but, I think it may have been. I don't understand some of these radical religions. I'm not slamming peoples beliefs but..... when you put your children at risk.... you've crossed the line IMO. This is a cult that they are involved with, and that type of situation can become very dangerous for everybody involved. Tom Cruise certainly flipped his nut over it. :spooked: I never liked him to begin with ,and now he is just plain sickening. :puke:
This will drive JT to leave scientology I suspect . . .
Quote from: Palehorse on January 03, 2009, 12:03:52 PM
This will drive JT to leave scientology I suspect . . .
I sure hope so. The Dr. on TV did say that it is unusual for a child over the age of 5 to have that disease.
JT's a reasonable guy who just got caught up in the trendiness of the thing I suspect. He and Kelly will rethink this moving forward; I hope so anyway.
Quote from: kimmi on January 03, 2009, 10:05:26 AM
Very interesting. I've never heard of it.
it's usually called "saturday night fever".
too soon?
Sad.
Quote from: awol on January 03, 2009, 01:46:45 PM
it's usually called "saturday night fever".
too soon?
:spooked: <as I giggle uncontrollably> :biggrin:
:spooked:
Quote from: Palehorse on January 03, 2009, 12:11:03 PM
JT's a reasonable guy who just got caught up in the trendiness of the thing I suspect. He and Kelly will rethink this moving forward; I hope so anyway.
They're brainwashed... I doubt their son's death will cause them to turn away from their religion. :no:
Quote from: awol on January 03, 2009, 01:46:45 PM
it's usually called "saturday night fever".
too soon?
LMAO!!!! Yes... it is too soon but LMAO!!! ;D
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on January 04, 2009, 12:05:54 AM
They're brainwashed... I doubt their son's death will cause them to turn away from their religion. :no:
Don't underestimate the power of the loss of a loved one. From all accounts JT loved this child to the core and doted on him. He was his main inspiration and a major part of his life. He is devastated I am sure, same with his wife.
When I lost a son it nearly drove me over the edge; and it still could some 19 years later if I let it. . .
Kinda "interesting" that Scientology is anti-science. I don't get anyone who passes up proved preventions and cures based on something which is unproven.
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 04, 2009, 12:56:44 AM
Kinda "interesting" that Scientology is anti-science. I don't get anyone who passes up proved preventions and cures based on something which is unproven.
Me neither. . . Kind of stupid in my mind anyway. . .
Quote from: Palehorse on January 04, 2009, 12:47:53 AM
Don't underestimate the power of the loss of a loved one. From all accounts JT loved this child to the core and doted on him. He was his main inspiration and a major part of his life. He is devastated I am sure, same with his wife.
When I lost a son it nearly drove me over the edge; and it still could some 19 years later if I let it. . .
Don't people who are brainwashed have to be deprogrammed? I'm sure the cult they belong to aren't going to do that. I seriously don't think this will turn them away from their religion. Not to mention the fact that if they try to break free from it, they could be in serious danger. That cult is extremely dangerous. They will probably say it happened for a reason. Google the name.. Lisa McPherson, and see what they did to her, when she tried to leave them. That is some scary shit. :spooked:
I think, this death is going to open up a BIG ol can of worms, towards the "scientology" crowd...
yeah too bad the hadn't taken him to a faith healer.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 05, 2009, 10:39:43 AM
I think, this death is going to open up a BIG ol can of worms, towards the "scientology" crowd...
I think you're right HH. They have been under scrutiny for a very long time. There have been many suspicious deaths within that cult. They don't let people leave, if they decide it's not right for them. It's my understanding that they also take money from their members. :no:
won't ammount to anything. wiccan, christian scientist, scientologist...all practices protectected.
Quote from: awol on January 05, 2009, 12:51:33 PM
won't ammount to anything. wiccan, christian scientist, scientologist...all practices protectected.
I agree. :yes:
Quote from: awol on January 05, 2009, 12:51:33 PM
won't ammount to anything. wiccan, christian scientist, scientologist...all practices protectected.
I sure your right, but it will hit all the punk hollywood magazines and the talk show circuits....for about the next couple of weeks...
How ironic it is to see people labeling religions other than their own 'cults'.
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 05, 2009, 12:55:30 PM
I sure your right, but it will hit all the punk hollywood magazines and the talk show circuits....for about the next couple of weeks...
It's already a hot debate all over the internet. Some people think it was an accident, and some people think the Travoltas neglected to give him much needed medication. Hard to tell what the truth is. :no: I did read that he had a skull fracture, and a broken nose though. :spooked:
Quote from: Exterminator on January 05, 2009, 12:55:49 PM
How ironic it is to see people labeling religions other than their own 'cults'.
I think it depends on the actions of the congregation. I don't consider Scientology a religion. I consider it a cult. There is a difference in them. Most churches don't hold their members hostage, if they don't want to be there. Most religions aren't so cloak and dagger. They have their own "doctors" that probably are nothing more than witch doctors. Most churches don't have numerous suspicious deaths that go unreported. IMO... there is a BIG difference between the two. It is just crazy some of the stuff they believe in. Spaceships and aliens..... give me a break.... :no:
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on January 05, 2009, 01:07:19 PM
It is just crazy some of the stuff they believe in.
No crazier than any other religion.
Quote from: Exterminator on January 05, 2009, 01:14:41 PM
No crazier than any other religion.
yes it is... :yes:
MUCH crazier... :yes:
By definition, all religions are cults. :yes:
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 05, 2009, 01:42:11 PM
By definition, all religions are cults. :yes:
by definition.......I agee with you... ;) ;D
I read where he was on anti-seizure meds and while they did reduce the frequency he was still having them. The side effects were problematic and JT and wife made a decision to take him off them. . . Then this. . .
All religion is cult, I agree; and it is the zealots amongst them that make it problematic!
Did anyone else hear that he had a form of autism and that their home was rigged with a bell to let them know when he went into the bathroom or out doors? I heard this on the radio today. Of course I'm sure they would never say that he was autistic. Wouldn't that go against Scientology?
Quote from: Sandy Eggo on January 05, 2009, 01:42:11 PM
By definition, all religions are cults. :yes:
:biggrin: :stupid2: I thought groups of people who gather at churches were called a congrugation. :yes:
When I think of cults.... I think of blood letting and sacrificing animals. I also think of cult leaders as people with the warped perception that they are God. They instill fear in people to keep total control of their members. My biggest problem with Scientology is the fact that their beliefs are sooooo out there. If you're obsessed with Star Track I can understand waiting for the mothership to come. But rational human beings actually believe this crap. :spooked: Wow!!! :spooked:
Beam me up Scotty!!! Damn.... we need a spaceship emoticon!!! :yes:
Quote from: kimmi on January 05, 2009, 08:31:52 PM
Did anyone else hear that he had a form of autism and that their home was rigged with a bell to let them know when he went into the bathroom or out doors? I heard this on the radio today. Of course I'm sure they would never say that he was autistic. Wouldn't that go against Scientology?
Yes, I heard that about the bell. And yes that would go against Scientology. Did you hear that he had a skull fracture and broken nose. IMO... if he fell that hard.. somebody should have heard him fall. I've read it was a very small house. I think it was 1000 sq. feet. I have no doubt that they loved him but, I think they may have been ashamed of him, because he wasn't "perfect". I think they denied that he could be Autistic or Epileptic. Very sad situation. :no:
Quote from: Dexter Morgan on January 05, 2009, 09:39:47 PM
When I think of cults.... I think of blood letting and sacrificing animals.
How about dashing babies against rocks?
QuoteThey instill fear in people to keep total control of their members.
Like they'll spend eternity in a fiery pit if they don't repent?
QuoteMy biggest problem with Scientology is the fact that their beliefs are sooooo out there. If you're obsessed with Star Track I can understand waiting for the mothership to come. But rational human beings actually believe this crap.
Seemingly rational human being s also believe that someone walked on water and came back from the dead.
Quote from: Exterminator on January 06, 2009, 07:42:45 AM
How about dashing babies against rocks?
Like they'll spend eternity in a fiery pit if they don't repent?
Seemingly rational human being s also believe that someone walked on water and came back from the dead.
I'm not sure if they dash babies on rocks but.... they may sacrifice babies. :think: I don't think the fiery pits of hell threat was what I was goin' on..... I was thinkin' more on the threat of bein' murdered if they tried to leave. :spooked: For some reason it's easier for me to believe somebody could walk on water, as opposed to the pod people from outer space, and the mothership commin' to take them to glory. :no:
You do realize where he pulled his comparison from, don't you? The 1st definition of cult reads: 1. a particular system of religious worship, esp. with reference to its rites and ceremonies. Some are stranger than others and some are less physically harmful than others, but they're all cults.
Well, I would definitely say they're strange (huge understatement here) in fact, in my book they have got to be the strangest. :spooked: Maybe I'm wrong (or maybe not) but I see a huge difference between Scientology, and other popular religions. I just hope to God the Travolta's participation in Scientology didn't cause their son's death. I hope they didn't withhold treatment because their "religion" is against it.IMO... that would be murder. :mad: