Henry's rant...

[Henry Hawk]

Why Henry?  It seems to me he speaks the truth. 

How Abby am I being dishonest?

Why is it that liberals feel like they can call people names and be rude to those with different views?

[AbbyTC]

How Abby am I being dishonest?

Why is it that liberals feel like they can call people names and be rude to those with different views?

I never said you are being dishonest, but you seem to avoid the fact Trump lies, and lies repeatedly.  You blame the liberal media but they are reporting what Trump himself (or Spicer, Conway, or Bannon) has said and refute it with facts.  There are no alternate facts no matter what Kellyanne Conway says. 

I can counter your next question with, why is it that conservatives feel like they can call people names and be rude to those with different views?  It happens on both sides of the fence, Henry. And we don't all do that, either. 

[Exterminator]

How much a stupid crackpot can you be, Hank?

I'll assume this is a rhetorical question.

[Exterminator]

Fuck off Y

Aw, do you need to go to your safe space, snowflake?

[Y]

How Abby am I being dishonest?

Why is it that liberals feel like they can call people names and be rude to those with different views?

Plagiarism in its essence is dishonesty.  It's not the first time you've done it, and I'm certain it won't be the last.

Oh, and yes, I also heard about you lying about Ex just because your meat curtains got chapped. 

You plagiarize, tell lies, regurgitate lies on the forum and want to play the 'honesty' card.  It's not even a laughing matter anymore around here as it used to be.

So don't try and pass off any more of that 'x-tian' or 'honesty'  BS - you've blown that completely all to Hell.

Also, if you're going to lose your temper and tell people to 'fuck off', you really should consider the political stupidity and hypocrisy you continually spew and understand why it is always being pointed out.  You can't blame others for your own words and actions.

[Henry Hawk]

Y,
I'm not blaming anyone....I'm telling you, to fuck off.  Period.

I didn't plagiarize ... I wasn't trying to pretend it was MY IDEA.......I passed on info. I even supplied a link to one of them....and besides that, who give a damn? 

Quit being an ass.  You don't act that way when we talk on the phone or face to face, but on here you seem to think you gotta act like a badass or something.

My problem is, I actually like "some" of you guys or I wouldn't even be here.

Over the years, I have developed a 'friendship' with many, even YOU.  I have watched you play and called you up.  I would LIKE to think, that a friend wouldn't talk to another friend the way YOU do.

For the most part, I have NOT interacted with you on here for a reason.........there is NO changing YOU and there is NO CHANGING me.

If we can't have a fun dialogue, then fuck off.  Seriously.  BTW, quit throwing my CHRISTian BS at me too.  I am indeed a follower of Christ, and proudly so.....but not in sterotypical FASHION YOU think all of us are.

This is who I am.....the same guy that calls you to check in on you.....the same guy who appreciates the talent you have musically.......the same guy that at one time respected you political and religious beliefs............but if this is the way you are going to roll.....FUCK OFF...


If the admin wants to ban my ass........do IT!!! It would probably be doing me a favor........because nothing good seems to come out of here any more.........I can facebook those I like.

[libby]

Aw, Henry. you know, or should know even more so  than I (a relative newcomer) that we come here and stay because we enjoy arguing and trying to get the better of each other. 

[Henry Hawk]

Aw, Henry. you know, or should know even more so  than I (a relative newcomer) that we come here and stay because we enjoy arguing and trying to get the better of each other. 

I guess I am at a stage in my life where I don't have time for assholes...you are probably right I shouldn't let it get to me but ...I'm tired of bickering which is why I need to stay out of the political part of the zone.. but

[Palehorse]

. . .but. . . You are a microcosm of this nation in that you have become addicted to it. . . 

We'd all be far better served if we sought the truth rather than one-upmanship. . . 

[libby]

I guess I am at a stage in my life where I don't have time for assholes...you are probably right I shouldn't let it get to me but ...I'm tired of bickering which is why I need to stay out of the political part of the zone.. but

bump

[Y]

I guess I am at a stage in my life where I don't have time for assholes...you are probably right I shouldn't let it get to me but ...I'm tired of bickering which is why I need to stay out of the political part of the zone.. but

Then how do you put up with yourself?   

You can't blame anyone but yourself for the replies you get - you solicit them, you always have.   

[Y]

Y,
I'm not blaming anyone....I'm telling you, to fuck off.  Period.

Pffft!

I didn't plagiarize ...

Not true.

Quit being an ass.  You don't act that way when we talk on the phone or face to face, but on here you seem to think you gotta act like a badass or something.

Think about it.  You don't talk like you talk on here.  In fact we don't usually talk politics except on forums, and as I've told you for years, you get the responses you solicit and then you whine about it - you always have all the way back to the HM days.

Your primary problem with politics is you're an ideologue and speak and act from that position regardless of anything proving you wrong - and you don't like interacting with me, and some others, on forums because you're invariably proved wrong.  That's why you are always whining about me or Ex or someone and pretending you're an injured party.

It's all that whining about along with acting as an 'injured' party that wears folks out. 

You want to do politics, just take your lumps like a doggone adult - and leave the shite on the forum and don't carry it out to the world and affect your relationships.

Hell, if I did that, I'd never be friends with you, old Numnut Mike, or lots of other folks I've met on forums.

[Henry Hawk]

Pffft!

Not true.

Think about it.  You don't talk like you talk on here.  In fact we don't usually talk politics except on forums, and as I've told you for years, you get the responses you solicit and then you whine about it - you always have all the way back to the HM days.

Your primary problem with politics is you're an ideologue and speak and act from that position regardless of anything proving you wrong - and you don't like interacting with me, and some others, on forums because you're invariably proved wrong.  That's why you are always whining about me or Ex or someone and pretending you're an injured party.

It's all that whining about along with acting as an 'injured' party that wears folks out. 

You want to do politics, just take your lumps like a doggone adult - and leave the shite on the forum and don't carry it out to the world and affect your relationships.

Hell, if I did that, I'd never be friends with you, old Numnut Mike, or lots of other folks I've met on forums.

I'm calling Bullshit....I don't whine, but I do get tired of continuously getting called "idiot", "moron", accused of wanting oral sex with the potus, having 'sub' IQ, and dozens of other inappropriate names, that has NOTHING to do with discussing Politics.

I have found that people who rely on that kind of responses, usually are insecure with their thoughts, so they try to demean their opponent to side track them or rattle them.  I know damn well this is the "unmoderated open" forum....but, I would have gotten to know several of you on here, and would LIKE to think we could discuss without the immaturity.  I am obviously wrong.

I have had several private discussions with you and I absolutely talk to you the way I talk on here.  I am who I am.  I am not phony. What you see is what you get. 

Quit thinking you have "Proven" me wrong on issues you THINK you have......You have a strong opinion, but YOU are probably the most ideologue person I know.

You attack Christian beliefs on a mean spirited way.  You pretend to have this deeply rooted "touch" with the poor and minority.....and everyone else are morons.

It seems like most of the conservatives I know, can carry on in-depth discussions about politics, religion or sports with out 'name-calling' or getting mean about it...but I know SEVERAL liberals it seem THAT is the only way they can discuss.

Anyway, I probably DO get my butt hurt more than I should allow, but it is only because I would LIKE to think that we are 'friends' on here and in the real world.  I take friendship serious. 

With that being said.........from now on, I choose when to respond and who I respond with and HOW I respond, to what ever level I want.... and I move on.

[Y]

I'm calling Bullshit....I don't whine,

Absolutely not true.    (see next quote)

but I do get tired of continuously getting called "idiot", "moron", accused of wanting oral sex with the potus, having 'sub' IQ, and dozens of other inappropriate names, that has NOTHING to do with discussing Politics.

^^^

Who do you think you're kidding?  You basically call me a liar, and then turn right around in the next moment and prove me totally correct.  As usual, you didn't think that through.  It's that lack of critical thinking and your being a staunch ideologue that earns you those descriptions.

I have found that people who rely on that kind of responses, usually are insecure with their thoughts, so they try to demean their opponent to side track them or rattle them.  I know damn well this is the "unmoderated open" forum....but, I would have gotten to know several of you on here, and would LIKE to think we could discuss without the immaturity.  I am obviously wrong.

LOL!  That's simply your cognitive dissonance at work.  I doubt you'll even understand that.

I have had several private discussions with you and I absolutely talk to you the way I talk on here.  I am who I am.  I am not phony. What you see is what you get.

No, you don't.  You can't - and don't - even live up to your own ideologies.

Quit thinking you have "Proven" me wrong on issues you THINK you have......You have a strong opinion, but YOU are probably the most ideologue person I know.

More cognitive dissonance.  You've been proved wrong left and right by practically everyone.

You attack Christian beliefs on a mean spirited way.  You pretend to have this deeply rooted "touch" with the poor and minority.....and everyone else are morons.

When people like you support enshrining your peculiar religious beliefs and morality into law, I - and others - aren't going to take it nicely. 

I understand the poor and minorities because I have lived it, you haven't.

It seems like most of the conservatives I know, can carry on in-depth discussions about politics, religion or sports with out 'name-calling' or getting mean about it...but I know SEVERAL liberals it seem THAT is the only way they can discuss.

Circle jerks are not in-depth discussions.  I doubt you'll get that either.

Anyway, I probably DO get my butt hurt more than I should allow, but it is only because I would LIKE to think that we are 'friends' on here and in the real world.  I take friendship serious. 

Arguing issues on a forum has nothing to do with friendship one way or the other, and all you are doing is trying to not take responsibility for your ideologies and to insulate yourself from your ideological failures and their forum repercussions.

Just stop whining!  Sheesh!   

[Henry Hawk]

I feel obligated to stand firm on my beliefs on this forum, especially when a particular party chooses to infuse hatred and spitefulness without even remotely trying to emote logic or common sense.  When they choose to utilize their political platform to send a message to Americans that their hatred of our POTUS is more important than what is best for America...I have a problem.


I understand having different views and opinions....I understand they believe their agenda is better for America than the other party.


What I don't understand is, when they choose to pout and whine, because they merely are not getting their way........it really bothers me.


When the POTUS at the SOTU last night spoke how African American Unemployment Rate is at an "all time" low, actually the lowest in HISTORY! ... the Black Caucus sat on their hands and refused to be happy for that fact.


When the POTUS shared touching stories of the American Spirit with special guests...........they sat their seething.


When he pointed out how manufacturing jobs were beginning to return.....they sat their with their bottom lip hiding their upper lip.


When he shared how that more hardworking Americans now have MORE of their paycheck to spend on things that mater most to them...they sat their, hands under their legs.


This base is so vicious, so ideological, so rigid, so hateful, so "out of their skull"...the couldn't applaud.......even if they wanted too.  They believe that Hate and Hate alone will win them the White House back!!  They are built on negativity! 


They believe that their hatred and vitriol of Trump will rally Americans to keep them in power!  How fucked up is that?


In my opinion......they put on display, to ALL of America, (Hell to all of the world) last night exactly what they are all about...and it ISN'T whats best for America.


A CBS News Poll had this to say after the speech:


Eight in 10 Americans who watched the speech felt that the president was trying to unite the country, rather than divide it..
Two-thirds said the speech made them feel proud...
Most of the viewers think the policies they heard tonight would help them personally...
A CBS national poll released earlier this month, 24 percent of Americans identified themselves as Republicans.  Among those who watched tonight's address, that percentage was 42 percent...


So, while I know we all have our opinion as to what is best for America....it seems to me, when the obvious slaps you in the face with facts, one should at least acknowledge it.  I know many preach on here about they are "intellectually honest".   I don't see it.


Hating Trump is one thing, but hating what is best for America is another...


November of 2018 is going to be another significant moment in our history....we can choose to continue to what is best for this Country or we can go back to where we were.


This is my rant...


I'm not asking for comments, though that is obviously up to you......I'm venting my thoughts after what I believe was perhaps the greatest SOTU speech in decades...I am once again, feeling American Pride as I haven't felt in years.  I am excited about our economy.  I am excited about my children's future.