Henry's rant...

[me]

Laugh away, dude.

And what exactly is the original point? You posted an unreferenced piece which mentioned Bush's IQ. I responded with an actual source. How in Heaven's name can you construe that as  "let's draw the topic away from it's original point?"

Yet you continue to dance and spin.

Ya better check you're sources a little better next time dude:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.asp

[Henry Hawk]

The point you highlighted is directly impacted by the SCOTUS decision, so how can you say I am deflecting?

the POINT is that you libs, find Big Oil appalling on it's EVILNESS in the political world, but never mention a word about the those who ARE evil (lawyers... )...are involved even MORE so in it's political ability to control....

personally, I have no problem with ANY body, person or group, who FREELY gives it's OWN money, to joe the plumber or Obama or Palin or whoever...as long is it well known and not given in secret, or undisclosed....and IF they are doing anything fraudulent then they should THEN be tried and punished according to the law....

[Henry Hawk]

Ya better check you're sources a little better next time dude:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.asp

who was who just said, "I love it when they get caught in their own traps!" ...

[Palehorse]

the POINT is that you libs, find Big Oil appalling on it's EVILNESS in the political world, but never mention a word about the those who ARE evil (lawyers... )...are involved even MORE so in it's political ability to control....

personally, I have no problem with ANY body, person or group, who FREELY gives it's OWN money, to joe the plumber or Obama or Palin or whoever...as long is it well known and not given in secret, or undisclosed....and IF they are doing anything fraudulent then they should THEN be tried and punished according to the law....

Facts:

1. PROVE I am a liberal, which you are so fond of categorizing me as. As I have said many time before, I lay no claim or allegiance to any political party what so ever. Your utilization of my perspectives as a means with which to "stereo-type" me is laughable. I am proud to say that in each case in which I have cast my vote, I have never voted along any party line nor limited my choices to those mainstream candidates offered. (I have voted libertarian 2 times in my voting life, leaving Dems and Repubs to receiving my vote 32 times)

2. The fact that big oil is utilized as an example within a brief synopsis of the situation is not intended to be a full disclosure of those entities engaging in said practices; in fact many of the instances in which big oil is/was utilized as an example contain verbiage indicating such. I believe the unanimous outcry heard from those of us decrying the SCOTUS decision is proof enough, validating this statement.

Question:

1. Then why include it within the originating post at all, and further utilize the point as a means to demonstrate your own?

[Henry Hawk]

Facts:

1. PROVE I am a liberal, which you are so fond of categorizing me as. As I have said many time before, I lay no claim or allegiance to any political party what so ever. Your utilization of my perspectives as a means with which to "stereo-type" me is laughable. I am proud to say that in each case in which I have cast my vote, I have never voted along any party line nor limited my choices to those mainstream candidates offered. (I have voted libertarian 2 times in my voting life, leaving Dems and Repubs to receiving my vote 32 times)

I have no desire to prove anything as far as what you call yourself.....I get called a repub all the time and I am NOT....

but, when someone advocates liberal policies, it is natural for me to want to call them a liberal...

Sorry if I got you undies all squashed up your crack...

[Palehorse]

I'm going commando, so there are no undies to crawl up my crack.

So you do judge a book by its cover then. . .

I think by that standard then you are self categorizing as an elitist.

[Henry Hawk]

I'm going commando, so there are no undies to crawl up my crack.

So you do judge a book by its cover then. . .

I think by that standard then you are self categorizing as an elitist.

EXACTLY...THAT is what I have been claiming about certain individuals on here for ever....I am simply giving you guys a taste of your own medicene....

I see this EVERYDAY on here...such as....those who like Palin are just the nascar crowd....or you must have a low IQ if you follow Bush....

Elitists is EXACTLY the word I have been looking for...or Arrogant or Pompus...it also fits...

oh, btw.....the commando thing was way tmi...

[Palehorse]

EXACTLY...THAT is what I have been claiming about certain individuals on here for ever....I am simply giving you guys a taste of your own medicene....

I see this EVERYDAY on here...such as....those who like Palin are just the nascar crowd....or you must have a low IQ if you follow Bush....

Elitists is EXACTLY the word I have been looking for...or Arrogant or Pompus...it also fits...

oh, btw.....the commando thing was way tmi...

So now I am an elitist? 

Okay. Have it your way Burger King. . .

I tire of trying to share what the sum of my education and experience has proven to me to be correct.

You are right about one thing, time will tell. And when it does I'll be sure to remind you.

[Exterminator]

This source says his IQ is 91.

Yeah, there isn't any way his IQ is in the 125-130 range even if he does seem pretty smart to those with IQ's of 80.

[Exterminator]

I pains you folks to admit, that Obama is NOT remotely close to perfect....he has a lot of baggage that YOU guys ALWAYS avoid, and ALWAYS turn it to Bush...

Why not just call him an uppity negro and be done with it?

[Bo D]

Ya better check you're sources a little better next time dude:

http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/hoaxes/presiq.asp

I guess you didn't notice the little smiley face at the end of my post.

But tell me this. How is it that you can't check your own sources before you post those ridiculous stories about grapes can't grow in England?

I did like that one line from Henry ... "I am simply giving you guys a taste of your own medicene[sic]...."

[Bo D]

And let's revisit that SAT score comparison ....

Bush - 1206
Gore - 1300

[Locutus]

Locutus - 1450

[Exterminator]

Exterminator - 1430.   

[Henry Hawk]

bump

From the American Thinker...

Bush or Obama: The Quiz

1. President Bush was famous for lacking "intellectual curiosity," while President Obama has been called "the smartest guy ever to become President." Who reads more books: Bush or Obama?

2. Bush was often considered to be in the grip of Big Oil. In contrast, Obama is a Harvard-educated lawyer. Which industry contributed more than five times as much as the other to politicians: the oil & gas industry, or lawyers/law firms?

3. Bush's Christian faith was at the core of his political identity, and he was considered to be in the grip of the "religious right," while Obama is considered more open-minded. In fact, Obama has said, "my faith is one that admits some doubt." Which one refers to Jesus more in public speeches?

4. Bush was criticized for excessive federal spending and running up huge deficits.  Bush's deficit in 2008 was the largest in history.  In fact, President Obama said,

It's a little hard for me to take criticism from folks about this recovery package after they've presided over a doubling of the national debt ... What I won't do is return to the failed theories of the last eight years that got us into this fix in the first place.

Whose deficit was more than triple the size of the other's: Bush's in 2008 or Obama's in 2009?

5. While Obama criticized Bush for "a doubling of the national debt," the federal debt held by the public went from 35.1% of GDP in 2000 to 40.8% of GDP in 2008 -- an increase of 16% as of fraction of GDP. What is it expected to be in 2016 under Obama's budget plan?

6.  Obama criticized Bush for Guantanamo, military tribunals, wiretaps, troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, and "signing statements." Which one of these Bush practices has Obama ended?

Answers:

1. Bush. Obama started reading a book in April and had not finished it by June, putting him on a pace of no more than ten books per year. Bush read forty to ninety-five books a year while President, not counting a new and complete reading of the Bible every year. Bush scored 1206 on his SAT, putting his IQ in the 125-130 range, smarter than 95% of the population and in the company of Lincoln, Rousseau, and Thackeray. He graduated from Yale and earned an MBA from Harvard. Obama earned a law degree from Harvard, but has not released any of his academic records. Despite what you might have heard, we know nothing of his IQ, test scores, or grades from any of the schools he attended.

2. Law firms. In the 2010 cycle so far, Lawyers/Law Firms have contributed $33,779,866 (81% to Democrats), and the Oil & Gas industry has contributed $6,293,631 (34% to Democrats). In the 2008 cycle, the numbers were $233,499,989 (76% to Dems) from lawyers and $35,564,322 (23% to Dems). In all, lawyers contributed about six times more to politicians than the Oil & Gas industry.

3. Obama. Per Eamon Javers at Politico, "As president, Barack Obama has mentioned Jesus Christ in a number of high-profile public speeches -- something his predecessor George W. Bush rarely did in such settings."

4. Obama's 2009 deficit, the largest in U.S. history. It was more than three times that of Bush's record 2008 deficit. Per the Congressional Budget Office, the 2008 deficit was $455 B, and the 2009 deficit was $1,417 B. As a fraction of GDP, it was the largest deficit since 1945.

5.  The CBO expects the debt held by the public to be 77.1% of GDP in 2016 under Obama's plan, or an increase of 89% as a fraction of GDP, and the highest level since 1950.

6. None.

Guantanamo is still open and probably will be into 2010, maybe longer.
Obama is keeping military tribunals and clandestine wiretapping programs.
Obama plans to keep most troops in Iraq until the summer of 2010.  Even then, he is talking of keeping about 50,000 troops there (compared to about 124,000 now). The number of US troops in Afghanistan increased from 37,000 in January 2009 to 62,000 by August 2009, and Obama is expected to send over 30,000 more. Total number of US troops in both Iraq and Afghanistan has increased under Obama so far (from about 184,000 in January to 186,000 in September).
Obama has used signing statements himself.