Why do the democrats oppose drilling of oil here in North America?...

[Henry Hawk]

well awol...try dealing with common sense.......go ahead........try it...

IF we have the capablities of produce OUR OWN oil (which we do) or just say we DID drill in anwr 7 years ago.......and we DID have the oil as predicted..............we would NOT be dependent upon the Arabs....therefore...it would be a fairly SAFE prediction to assume, that the supply and demand theory would still apply...........hence, a barrel of oil would most likely NOT be $125(give or take)..

saying that oil companies would STILL find an excuse to charge $4 a gallon of gas would be a crap shoot...who knows?

and I'm also thinkin if your aunt DOES have balls......it would be SAFE to say that she he WOULD be you uncle...despite what they may try to tell you.........

[bevis]

that oil is for AFTER we use up all the rest of the world's supply.  sheesh, henry, get with the program already.

[Henry Hawk]

that oil is for AFTER we use up all the rest of the world's supply.  sheesh, henry, get with the program already.

that may be...bevis.........    could be the best explanation we have had....

[C91]

saying that oil companies would STILL find an excuse to charge $4 a gallon of gas would be a crap shoot...who knows?

Oil is a finite resource.  Name one finite resource where the cost has decreased as the supply dwindled.

[Henry Hawk]

saying that oil companies would STILL find an excuse to charge $4 a gallon of gas would be a crap shoot...who knows?

Oil is a finite resource.  Name one finite resource where the cost has decreased as the supply dwindled.

no are correct...........BUT....the price stayed nearly the same for several years (at least the inflation on gas was extremely minimal)...

it was not until the last 10-years where it started taking off.............

[C91]

it was not until the last 10-years where it started taking off.............

Subtract 7 years from that and you're correct.  Anyway, Candidate Bush told us back in 2000 that he could just use the political capital his administration would gain with the Saudis and Kuwaitis to tell them to open the spigots if the prices got too high for Americans. 

That worked out well for us, didn't it?

[bevis]

i think if you account for inflation and new taxes, gas actually costs the same now as it did c. 1979.  

it's estimated that we have used 1 trillion barrels of oil so far, and that there is somewhere between 2 and 5 trillion barrels left.  obviously, the rate of consumption is considerably greater than years ago and will most likely continue to grow.  so oil is definitely a finite resource in a pretty short term sense.  so we figure it out or we don't.  i expect that we will figure something out.  it will probably involve a LOT of death and turmoil and upheaval and what not.  but isn't that our way?

[C91]

it will probably involve a LOT of death and turmoil and upheaval and what not.  but isn't that our way?

And all the while, a peaceful solution gathers dust in some laboratory...unfunded.

[bevis]

peaceful solution?  millions of people (and many, many nations) around the world depend on the use of petroleum and petroleum based products to make a living.  you're just going to disenfranchise those millions, and you propose that will be a "peaceful solution"?  like the industrial revolution was peaceful?  i suppose you are probably right.

[Henry Hawk]

it will probably involve a LOT of death and turmoil and upheaval and what not.  but isn't that our way?

And all the while, a peaceful solution gathers dust in some laboratory...unfunded.

why do you assume the Gov HAS to fund everything (i reading between the lines here, excuse me if I'm misinterprting)...

why cant private amerians fund the solution to fix tomorrows problems?....oh, cause we just want to tax the crap out of ALL the capital gains they might incurr...

[C91]

why do you assume the Gov HAS to fund everything (i reading between the lines here, excuse me if I'm misinterprting)...

why cant private amerians fund the solution to fix tomorrows problems?....oh, cause we just want to tax the crap out of ALL the capital gains they might incurr...

Okay, fine.  Then the government should stop funding big oil through tax subsidies.  Those companies make enough goddamn money.

[Henry Hawk]

why do you assume the Gov HAS to fund everything (i reading between the lines here, excuse me if I'm misinterprting)...

why cant private amerians fund the solution to fix tomorrows problems?....oh, cause we just want to tax the crap out of ALL the capital gains they might incurr...

Okay, fine.  Then the government should stop funding big oil through tax subsidies.  Those companies make enough goddamn money.

so the Gov should decide HOW MUCH MONEY is good enough for a company?

I agree the GOV SHOULD quit ALL subsidies....it is NOT the Govs job to intervene.......

[awol]

wow, has this taken a turn all of a sudden.

hank, i'd love to discuss this with you - one logical step at a time...

is there oil drilling going on in alaska?

[C91]

so the Gov should decide HOW MUCH MONEY is good enough for a company?

In a perfect world, the market should decide.  But seeing how the oil industry has us by the short and curlies I'm all for classifying it as a regulated industry like utilities, cable providers, and insurance.

[Henry Hawk]

so the Gov should decide HOW MUCH MONEY is good enough for a company?

In a perfect world, the market should decide.  But seeing how the oil industry has us by the short and curlies I'm all for classifying it as a regulated industry like utilities, cable providers, and insurance.

I'm CLOSE to agreeing with you, but, I STILL think, gov intervention would make things WORSE...(if THAT is possible)