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Henry Hawk

March 31, 2008, 12:40:54 PM
Are you proud of America?....



Yes or No?.....simple question, for now, let's not elaborate......just, are you proud of America?



I'll start....


Yes.   :yes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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Mr442

#1
April 01, 2008, 08:38:11 AM
Yes and No.
Mr442

Gryphon

#2
April 01, 2008, 08:57:23 AM
Ill say yes.

but after the "for now" portion is over, Id like to elaborate.

Sandy Eggo

#3
April 01, 2008, 09:31:49 AM
Quote from: Gryphon on April 01, 2008, 08:57:23 AM
Ill say yes.

but after the "for now" portion is over, Id like to elaborate.

:ditto:
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Henry Hawk

#4
April 01, 2008, 11:22:15 AM
Why is it so hard for your YES to mean YES and your NO to mean NO... ;D


It's like it hurts some people to simply say "I am proud to be an American".....I understand, politicians and business' can make you NOT proud of them...but, simply has a Nation...........despite the differences of opinions...................THIS IS A GREAT COUNTRY...

I despise the liberal movement........ the socialistic tendencies that keep surfacing.....the entitlement mentality.......the anti-God talk......but, I am 100% pleased to live in this nation.....and gladly call myself an American....(Lee Greenwood kicks in quietly in the background  :fireworks: :music1: )
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

#5
April 02, 2008, 01:18:01 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 01, 2008, 11:22:15 AM
Why is it so hard for your YES to mean YES and your NO to mean NO... ;D


It's like it hurts some people to simply say "I am proud to be an American".....I understand, politicians and business' can make you NOT proud of them...but, simply has a Nation...........despite the differences of opinions...................THIS IS A GREAT COUNTRY...

I despise the liberal movement........ the socialistic tendencies that keep surfacing.....the entitlement mentality.......the anti-God talk......but, I am 100% pleased to live in this nation.....and gladly call myself an American....(Lee Greenwood kicks in quietly in the background  :fireworks: :music1: )

But that's not what your original question was.  You're stating here that you're proud to be an American (as in the song), but your original question was "Are you proud of America?"  And my answer is, not always.
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Henry Hawk

#6
April 02, 2008, 02:07:07 PM
Quote from: Locutus on April 02, 2008, 01:18:01 PM
But that's not what your original question was.  You're stating here that you're proud to be an American (as in the song), but your original question was "Are you proud of America?"  And my answer is, not always.

Fair enough....I think we can ALL think of something that we may have done that wasn't "the RIGHT thing to do" or not everybody agreed upon something....... but overall....pound for pound....I think this is by far the greatest land in the world...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Bo D

#7
April 02, 2008, 02:12:29 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on April 02, 2008, 02:07:07 PM
Fair enough....I think we can ALL think of something that we may have done that wasn't "the RIGHT thing to do" or not everybody agreed upon something....... but overall....pound for pound....I think this is by far the greatest land in the world...

No doubt. But we could be even greater if we would 'fess up' to our past atrocities instead of sweeping them under the rug or rationalizing them.

We have done some terrible things, dude!  i.e. The Trail of Tears.
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Henry Hawk

#8
April 02, 2008, 02:29:49 PM
Quote from: Bo D on April 02, 2008, 02:12:29 PM
No doubt. But we could be even greater if we would 'fess up' to our past atrocities instead of sweeping them under the rug or rationalizing them.

We have done some terrible things, dude!  i.e. The Trail of Tears.

I 1000% agree.....that one was an atrocity...and there HAS been some measures taken to offer apologies (big whoop  :rolleyes: ), and, I'm sure we can bring up hundreds of other events that are just as horrible..........but, I'd be willing to bet there are multitudes more wonderous events  and "great things" to arise from the people of this country than of those autrocities....

personaly, I'm getting pretty tired of people who seem ungrateful or ashamed what this country has done for not only it's own people, but for the people of this world.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

followsthewolf

#9
April 02, 2008, 05:47:01 PM
Wounded Knee was no picnic, either.
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Mr442

#10
April 04, 2008, 08:35:16 AM
Let me answer a second time.  Yes, I am proud to be an American, but I am not proud of some of the Bozos running things and the things they have done.  Sorry to elaborate, but some things cannot be answered simply yes or no.
Mr442

Y

#11
April 17, 2008, 01:05:54 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 31, 2008, 12:40:54 PM
Are you proud of America?....



Yes or No?.....simple question, for now, let's not elaborate......just, are you proud of America?



I'll start....


Yes.   :yes:

1. It's NOT a 'simple' yes/no question - for numerous reasons.

2. I want to know two things.  a) Why you think it's a simple yes/no question?  b) Why you appear to be claiming an all-encompassing pride in America?

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Henry Hawk

#12
April 17, 2008, 06:58:42 AM
the pros way out perform the cons.............YES, that simple....I AM PROUD of what our country does and stands for..........despite the enemies within.........
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

awol

#13
April 17, 2008, 10:12:14 AM
once you qualified your own answer to the question you invalidated it as you asked it hank.
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Henry Hawk

#14
April 17, 2008, 10:25:32 AM
Quote from: awol on April 17, 2008, 10:12:14 AM
once you qualified your own answer to the question you invalidated it as you asked it hank.

No, I answered it without reservation...................I AM PROUD OF AMERICA....period!

why is it so hard to say?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW
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