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Started by Henry Hawk, March 27, 2008, 11:48:05 AM

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Sandy Eggo

#15
March 27, 2008, 11:59:43 PM
Here's an entire website devoted to the lies of Dubby:

http://www.bushlies.net/


Is that enough examples for you.  :rolleyes:
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me

#16
March 28, 2008, 07:25:47 AM
A  garbage web site you come up with.   :rolleyes:
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me

#18
March 28, 2008, 08:01:04 AM
Quote from: PIYA on March 27, 2008, 11:52:10 PM
"Simply stated, there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."
- Dick Cheney, August 26 2002

"Right now, Iraq is expanding and improving facilities that were used for the production of biological weapons."
- George W. Bush, September 12 2002

Transcript: President Clinton explains Iraq strike

CLINTON: Good evening.

Earlier today, I ordered America's armed forces to strike military and security targets in Iraq. They are joined by British forces. Their mission is to attack Iraq's nuclear, chemical and biological weapons programs and its military capacity to threaten its neighbors.

Their purpose is to protect the national interest of the United States, and indeed the interests of people throughout the Middle East and around the world.

Saddam Hussein must not be allowed to threaten his neighbors or the world with nuclear arms, poison gas or biological weapons. http://www.cnn.com/ALLPOLITICS/stories/1998/12/16/transcripts/clinton.html

   Bill Clinton Was Right
From the July 5 / July 12, 2004 issue: There was a Saddam-Osama connection and we're learning more every day.
by Stephen F. Hayes
07/05/2004, Volume 009, Issue 41

NEARLY TWO YEARS AGO, in the introduction to an hour-long PBS documentary called Saddam's Ultimate Solution, former Clinton State Department spokesman James P. Rubin said:

"Tonight, we examine the nature of the threat posed by Saddam Hussein. Ten years after the Gulf War and Saddam is still there and still continues to stockpile weapons of mass destruction. Now there are suggestions he is working with al Qaeda, which means the very terrorists who attacked the United States last September may now have access to chemical and biological weapons."http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/274fwxli.asp

http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/004/274fwxli.asp

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Sandy Eggo

#19
March 28, 2008, 08:03:02 AM
Quote from: me on March 28, 2008, 07:25:47 AM
A far right garbage web site you come up with.   :rolleyes:

Rather than call it garbage, how about proof that any of the information provided isn't true. If the best you can do is pull up Bill Clinton then you're obviously missing the point. Bush is a known liar and has done serious damage to this country because of it.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

me

#20
March 28, 2008, 08:13:48 AM
If The Bush Administration Lied About WMD, So Did These People -- Version 3.0
by John Hawkins

Since we haven't found WMD in Iraq, a lot of the anti-war/anti-Bush crowd is saying that the Bush administration lied about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Well, if they're going to claim that the Bush administration lied, then there sure are a lot of other people, including quite a few prominent Democrats, who have told the same "lies" since the inspectors pulled out of Iraq in 1998. Here are just a few examples that prove that the Bush administration didn't lie about weapons of mass destruction...

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others


http://www.rightwingnews.com/quotes/demsonwmds.php
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Sandy Eggo

#21
March 28, 2008, 08:33:13 AM
Interesting that most of the quotes provided timeline wise was after the report from the Office of Special plans. They weren't lying, they were mislead. IIRC, prior to that it was suspected and Clinton was working with the UN and the inspectors to determine if Iraq was creating/storing WMD, so I'd like to see the entire speech connected to those quotes, because I think they could be taken out of context. Even if they were lying,  that doesn't exonerate Bush.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Henry Hawk

#22
March 28, 2008, 08:34:55 AM
It honestly AMAZES me that democrats look past ALL of the evidence that THEY themselves claimed as FACTS about Iraq and Sadaam....but, as soon as things went south....BAM...it's was ALL Bush and Cheneys fault..."THEY LIED"....the kool-aid was gulped by the gallons...

I think, Hillary is SO wrong for this country.....I'm convinced she will lie about ANYTHING to be elected....she lies about Health Care...she lies about fixing the mortgage problems....she lies about fixing our energy situtation....she has NO IDEA...but, yet she lies....but THOSE are somewhat expected...since she is running for president............but when you start telling STUPID lies like snipers launching bullets past her head..trying to make herself as some sort of hero......that is useless and makes me think she will lie about ANYTHING then....and along with that she insults the military and the secret service....she doesn't think thing's through...and that is not someone I want running my country.... :no:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Sandy Eggo

#23
March 28, 2008, 08:41:31 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 28, 2008, 08:34:55 AM
It honestly AMAZES me that democrats look past ALL of the evidence that THEY themselves claimed as FACTS about Iraq and Sadaam....but, as soon as things went south....BAM...it's was ALL Bush and Cheneys fault..."THEY LIED"....the kool-aid was gulped by the gallons...

They did lie. If they had waited for proof rather than suspicions, then they couldn't have started the war they so badly wanted. Henry, seriously, it's time for you to put the koolaide down.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 28, 2008, 08:34:55 AM
she lies about Health Care...she lies about fixing the mortgage problems....she lies about fixing our energy situtation....she has NO IDEA...but, yet she lies....

Proof?

Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 28, 2008, 08:34:55 AM
but THOSE are somewhat expected...since she is running for president............but when you start telling STUPID lies like snipers launching bullets past her head..trying to make herself as some sort of hero......that is useless and makes me think she will lie about ANYTHING then....and along with that she insults the military and the secret service....she doesn't think thing's through...and that is not someone I want running my country.... :no:

So, what about Bushes lies regarding his military record? What about his lies pertaining to the Patriot Act?

Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Henry Hawk

#24
March 28, 2008, 08:45:25 AM
Quote from: PIYA on March 28, 2008, 08:41:31 AM

So, what about Bushes lies regarding his military record? What about his lies pertaining to the Patriot Act?


Proof?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Sandy Eggo

#25
March 28, 2008, 08:59:46 AM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on March 28, 2008, 08:45:25 AM
Proof?

I've already provided mine. It's contained in my  link above. Now, where's yours?
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

BEG

#26
March 28, 2008, 10:26:28 AM
My question about this Bosnia recollection and her 'story' about Chelsea running in Manhattan during the 9/11 disaster is: does she realize that she is lying or embellishing? Or does she really think these things are true. Or is she constantly pander to her audience and will say anything that will make her more like them. So we don't actually know the true Hillary. Either way it's a character flaw that I find concerning if she's going to be a candidate for President.  I can only imagine a story she might tell a head of state from a foreign country.
Life is a test,
Life is a trust.

Sandy Eggo

#27
March 28, 2008, 10:29:55 AM
They're all liars, so what makes her lie so important whether it was intentional or not?
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

Henry Hawk

#28
March 28, 2008, 10:56:07 AM
Quote from: PIYA on March 28, 2008, 10:29:55 AM
They're all liars, so what makes her lie so important whether it was intentional or not?

well crap.....at LEAST be good at it... :yes: ;D
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

BEG

#29
March 28, 2008, 11:07:38 AM
I agree - all politicians lie. For me, intent has a lot to do about it.  I can accept a blunder or misstatement easier than a blatant lie to my face. However, it is easy after being caught in a lie to say that it's just a misstatement or a simple forgetfulness. I just fear that Hillary's abuse of embellishing may be an illness. Has anyone heard of 'pathelogical liar'. When one will say anything to one up another person or to fit into a group. Is this what she does?

Similarly, I question Obama's statements about Rev. Wright and that Obama didn't know Wright's opinions / hatred towards America or that Obama never heard anything like what is being played by the media from the pulpit. Now that I call a blatant lie to my face. Shameful....

McCain is keeping to the issues and not his personal life that I cannot call him out - yet. I do question the severity of his POW days. I'm sure it wasn't a cake walk, but who can dispute what actually took place when he talks about it? I don't know...No one does. We just take his word and feel badly for him.... is that right?
Life is a test,
Life is a trust.
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