Can somebody explain the Superdelegates?..

[Henry Hawk]

To me....this sounds like a "typical" corrupt democrat party power move.....it seems to me they are taking the will of the people and putting the power into democrat leaders hands......kind of like they WANT to do to our country.........these arrogant leaders seem like they know more what is best for our country than the people do.............no, MAYBE i'm wrong....but, that is clearly the way I see this...

[Mr442]

You mean they are not wearing masks and capes with their tights???

I don't know either, this is the first I have heard of such a thing since I started voting way back when.

[Henry Hawk]

I got some info from a blog...take it for what it is worth....

http://www.reuters.com/article/blogBurst/politics?type=politicsNews&w1=B7ovpm21IaDoL40ZFnNfGe&w2=B7tmRCRJt2YFzDsa7MJ1CblL&src=blogBurst_politicsNews&bbPostId=Cz4EvxGDnBqqcCzAgqJChmBnlMB9KQ4G8QYglNCzDUwgjnYUHeP&bbParentWidgetId=B94DflL2bLsuzDPLZYiSAqaT


After the 1968 DNC convention, changes were put in place to limit the power of DNC party officials in the delegate selection process and more responsive to votes cast during the campaign for nomination. This lasted until 1980 when party leaders felt their power had diminished too far. In response the superdelegate rule was enacted after the 1980 election. By 1984 party leaders were already in the process of usurping the will of the people, handing the nomination to Walter Mondale largely on superdelegate support, taking it away from Gary Hart. Mondale went on to lose 49 of 50 states to Ronald Reagan in the general election. Now in 2008 they could once again trump the will of the people.

[me]

Here ya go Henry.
http://belfercenter.ksg.harvard.edu/publication/18072/history_of_superdelegates_in_the_democratic_party.html

[Henry Hawk]

and yet democrats SCREAMED that the republicans was scamming the election process...

[Sandy Eggo]

Corrupt? Would attempting to change the electoral process, mid game, in a major state...such as California...be considered a corrupt move?

[Henry Hawk]

Corrupt? Would attempting to change the electoral process, mid game, in a major state...such as California...be considered a corrupt move?

attempting one thing .... DOING is another...

[Sandy Eggo]

attempting one thing .... DOING is another...

Actually, no it isn't because the GOP would have been perfectly happy to do it, but at least one member of the GOP wasn't corrupt enough to go for it.

[bevis]

well...apparently it WAS the "intent" of our founding fathers that the President (as well as the Senate) NOT be directly elected by the people.  another purely political compromise of expediency (like slavery) that our saintly founders decided to leave for future generations try to figure out.  amazingly human those founding fathers don't you think?

[me]

and yet democrats SCREAMED that the republicans was scamming the election process...

Yep.  Seems with this one they put themselves in the trick bag though. 

[Y]

To me....this sounds like a "typical" corrupt democrat party power move.....

and yet democrats SCREAMED that the republicans was scamming the election process...

Yep.  Seems with this one they put themselves in the trick bag though. 

<shakes head> 

Youse guys will swallow anything you hear from idiotic sources...and then make it up from there...


The proper terminology is Unpledged Delegates or PLEO's and both parties have them.

Learning to research is your friend!   

[Y]

well...apparently it WAS the "intent" of our founding fathers that the President (as well as the Senate) NOT be directly elected by the people.  another purely political compromise of expediency (like slavery) that our saintly founders decided to leave for future generations try to figure out.  amazingly human those founding fathers don't you think?

Actually quite wise.  They understood the dangers of a pure democracy so well that they provided a safeguard from the rule of the mob.   

[me]

<shakes head> 

Youse guys will swallow anything you hear from idiotic sources...and then make it up from there...


The proper terminology is Unpledged Delegates or PLEO's and both parties have them.

Learning to research is your friend!   

Harvard University is an idiotic source? 

[Henry Hawk]

<shakes head> 

Youse guys will swallow anything you hear from idiotic sources...and then make it up from there...


The proper terminology is Unpledged Delegates or PLEO's and both parties have them.

Learning to research is your friend!   

I DID..

After the 1968 DNC convention, changes were put in place to limit the power of DNC party officials in the delegate selection process and more responsive to votes cast during the campaign for nomination. This lasted until 1980 when party leaders felt their power had diminished too far. In response the superdelegate rule was enacted after the 1980 election. By 1984 party leaders were already in the process of usurping the will of the people, handing the nomination to Walter Mondale largely on superdelegate support, taking it away from Gary Hart. Mondale went on to lose 49 of 50 states to Ronald Reagan in the general election. Now in 2008 they could once again trump the will of the people......

can you show me a similar process on the GOP, where voters are being disenfranchised..

[C91]

can you show me a similar process on the GOP, where voters are being disenfranchised..

They just get the Supreme Court to do it for them.