Obama-rama...

[BEG]

It's more like a MOVEMENT.

And all can say is if Obama runs our country, I will have no clue about the direction of the 'movement'
But when I sit on the toilet I always know which way the crap is going.

[Henry Hawk]

It is pretty clear he's a war-monger though.  Perhaps that's the talk you understand.

what I DO understand is....you cant be a moron and tell the enemy that you want to pull troops out of a country within 3 months no mater what the circimstances are........

but, on the same hand.........Oabama says he is ready to drop bombs on Iran and Pakistan...is that war monger enough for you?
...but in the same breath...says, Iraq was not necessary.........

[Henry Hawk]

It's more like a MOVEMENT.

And all can say is if Obama runs our country, I will have no clue about the direction of the 'movement'
But when I sit on the toilet I always know which way the crap is going.

Good Night BEG.........I have missed you..SOOOO much......   again with the kiss thing...

[rbn]

Really? He worked in his Family-Owned oil business for a while. Was part-owner of a baseball team...

Stellar job history there 

So true BO, is nothing more then a joke in my eyes and has really messed this country up big time. Will be glad to see him go. Only bad part about him leaving office is He has to come back to Texas, yuck. Can't we send HIM to Iraq?

[rbn]

head cheerleader
member of the secretive Skull and Bones society
accepted into the Texas Air National Guard despite only scoring in the 25th percentile on the pilot's written aptitude test,
applied to the University of Texas School of Law and was rejected
admitted to drinking "too much" in those years and described this period of his life as his "nomadic" period of "irresponsible youth".
On September 4, 1976, at the age of 30, Bush was arrested for driving under the influence of alcohol

WTG Bo you did it again. Gotta love BO.

[C91]

Oabama says he is ready to drop bombs on Iran and Pakistan...is that war monger enough for you?

That just shows that you're not paying attention Henry.  

Politifact on Obama's urge to "bomb Pakistan"

As far as it being war-monger enough for me.  We know that Pakistan is where Bin Laden is.  He's not in Iraq.  Perhaps we should be in Pakistan for 100 years and not Iraq as John McWar suggests.

[rbn]

Bush's psuedo-Christian "talk" has been wooing right wing sheep for 8 years. Obama makes good points re: change and getting our country back on track. Your boy created this mess. The only point Dubby has is the top of his head. You better get used to the idea to the idea of Obama or McCain.

You got that one right PIYA. On top of his little pin head to be exact. He is the worse President this country has EVER had, he evens makes Nixon look good.

[Henry Hawk]

That just shows that you're not paying attention Henry.  

http://www.socialistworker.org/2004-2/515/515_07_Obama.shtml

"surgical missile strikes" on Iran may become necessary.......barack obama

[followsthewolf]

Hey, let's kill 'em all.

SOMEBODY'S god will sort it all out in the end.

O.K.?

[Henry Hawk]

Hey, let's kill 'em all.

SOMEBODY'S god will sort it all out in the end.

O.K.?

is it just me or am i picking up a TAD of sarcasm.........

[followsthewolf]

just you, hank

[Henry Hawk]

just you, hank

I'M SO LONELY!!!!......It's a cold world out here...

[Bo D]

http://www.socialistworker.org/2004-2/515/515_07_Obama.shtml

"surgical missile strikes" on Iran may become necessary.......barack obama

Henry, that is stooping pretty dang low.

I found the original article from 2004 and NOWHERE does Mr. Obama mention "surgical missile strikes"

That is simply a fabrication of the writer.

However, I would think you would be in complete agreement of Mr. Obama's statement.


Obama would consider missile strikes on Iran

By David Mendell |Tribune staff reporter
September 25, 2004

U.S. Senate candidate Barack Obama suggested Friday that the United States one day might have to launch surgical missile strikes [this is where your little phrase originated] into Iran and Pakistan to keep extremists from getting control of nuclear bombs.

Obama, a Democratic state senator from the Hyde Park neighborhood, made the remarks during a meeting Friday with the Tribune editorial board. Obama's Republican opponent, Alan Keyes, was invited to attend the same session but declined.

Iran announced on Tuesday that it has begun converting tons of uranium into gas, a crucial step in making fuel for a nuclear reactor or a nuclear bomb. The International Atomic Energy Agency has called for Iran to suspend all such activities.

Obama said the United States must first address Iran's attempt to gain nuclear capabilities by going before the United Nations Security Council and lobbying the international community to apply more pressure on Iran to cease nuclear activities. That pressure should come in the form of economic sanctions, he said.

But if those measures fall short, the United States should not rule out military strikes to destroy nuclear production sites in Iran, Obama said.

"The big question is going to be, if Iran is resistant to these pressures, including economic sanctions, which I hope will be imposed if they do not cooperate, at what point are we going to, if any, are we going to take military action?" Obama asked.

Given the continuing war in Iraq, the United States is not in a position to invade Iran, but missile strikes might be a viable option, he said. Obama conceded that such strikes might further strain relations between the U.S. and the Arab world.

"In light of the fact that we're now in Iraq, with all the problems in terms of perceptions about America that have been created, us launching some missile strikes into Iran is not the optimal position for us to be in," he said.

"On the other hand, having a radical Muslim theocracy in possession of nuclear weapons is worse. So I guess my instinct would be to err on not having those weapons in the possession of the ruling clerics of Iran. ... And I hope it doesn't get to that point. But realistically, as I watch how this thing has evolved, I'd be surprised if Iran blinked at this point."

As for Pakistan, Obama said that if President Pervez Musharraf were to lose power in a coup, the United States similarly might have to consider military action in that country to destroy nuclear weapons it already possesses. Musharraf's troops are battling hundreds of well-armed foreign militants and Pakistani tribesmen in increasingly violent confrontations.

Obama said that violent Islamic extremists are a vastly different brand of foe than was the Soviet Union during the Cold War, and they must be treated differently.

"With the Soviet Union, you did get the sense that they were operating on a model that we could comprehend in terms of, they don't want to be blown up, we don't want to be blown up, so you do game theory and calculate ways to contain," Obama said. "I think there are certain elements within the Islamic world right now that don't make those same calculations.

"... I think there are elements within Pakistan right now–if Musharraf is overthrown and they took over, I think we would have to consider going in and taking those bombs out, because I don't think we can make the same assumptions about how they calculate risks."

[IYT]

But that's what every Senator's job is - to vote. I can 'assume' he voted party-line. Woo Hoo - big deal! That doesn't mean he's qualified to be President. I think he should remain a Senator and pen a couiple of bills / laws so he can stand on those for the citizens to decide for or against - like McCain.

I'm not saying he's qualified to be president (although I think he would do a fine job).  I'm just saying I don't think Bush really had any accomplishments either, at least that merited him to be POTUS.  But alas this thread isn't about Bush, so my points are moot.  I agree with both of you.  Clinton/Obama 2008, although I'd rather have seen Paul/Kucinich.    

[Henry Hawk]

Bo, I actualy DO agree with his statements................but, it appears he is speaking out of both sides of his mouth....

was against Iraq.........but in favor of bombing Pakistan.....for very similiar reasons...