Vents: Random Acts of Venting!

[Exterminator]

The whole point is, let's allow AMERICANS spend THEIR OWN money on things that will benifit THEM.

Great idea because it isn't like they will go to WalMart and buy Chinese crap thereby really taking the money out of the economy.

[Henry Hawk]

Great idea because it isn't like they will go to WalMart and buy Chinese crap thereby really taking the money out of the economy.

I'm not talking about the dead-asses who shop Walmart.....most of them don't pay any federal income taxes anyway....I'm talking about the middle class and the upper class who pay for pay for 97% of the federal income taxes........THEY are the one's who hire people to work for them...THEY are the one's who take vacations, buy cars, buy homes, buy, buy, buy....I hired a mechanic to fix a problem with my car....he had his employee to help him.  Lets keep the money in OUR hands as much as possible.  NOT giving MORE to the government to invest in companies like Solyndra.

[Exterminator]

Like you or your mechanic or his helper don't shop at Walmart?  Bullshit.  I was born at night but it wasn't last night.

[Henry Hawk]

Like you or your mechanic or his helper don't shop at Walmart?  Bullshit.  I was born at night but it wasn't last night.

I went to Walmart for the first time this year, last week, only because I needed something they had and it was late at night.  All of my close friends and family do not shop their either.  The one in Anderson, especially the one in Anderson, is the epitome of Walmart shoppers.  Heck, I rarely shop in Anderson, if I do, it is Miejers or Target.  True story! 

[Exterminator]

Yeah, nothing from China in either of those places!   

[Henry Hawk]

Yeah, nothing from China in either of those places!   

but the clientele usually have all of their teeth, and they are not covered in tatoo's....

[The Troll]

Yeah, nothing from China in either of those places!   

  All big box store are guilty of it.  But the other big box store treat their workers better than Walmart and Lowel's.   

  Don't let your kids work at Walmart and Lowel's.  Walmart has a employee turn over rate of over 53%.  That means at Walmart, over 53%, either Walmart fires or employees quit out right.     Wonderful China loving Walmart.   

[Y]

I find this logic hard to disagree with:
"This isn't  rocket  science," Mr. DeMint, South Carolina Republican,  said.   "Everyone knows  that when you take money out of the economy, it   destroys  jobs, and  everyone knows that when you give politicians more   money, they  spend  it. This is why Republicans must oppose tax increases   and insist on   real spending reductions that shrink the size of   government and allow   Americans to keep more of their hard-earned  money."

Hank, you're a hoot and don't even have the sense gawd gave a goose to realize it.

As Ex so aptly pointed out, the money we cede in taxes to our government is money we put into society and, when corruption isn't at hand, comes back to benefit us as a society.

Here you're using a quote to argue that the money should go, not to benefit us all as members of society, but to benefit the rich - where the corruption enters in the first place.

The rich aren't like you and I economically.  The rich take money out of the economy - the very thing that Repug idiot and you are arguing against and that Rob-me didn't want you to see his taxes for - remember those accounts in the Caymans and Switzerland and other overseas accounts and investments?  You don't really think that money is at work in our economy do you, or the money of the rich in general?

You and I, on the other hand, circulate money in the economy.  We have to, we don't make enough money to do otherwise, because the rich are greedy and don't share if they can corrupt the process and avoid it.  The rich put themselves in a position where they make money whether the economy is good for the rest of us or not.  I give you as an example the increase of the wealth of the rich and corporations during this 'Great Recession' where the rest of us are scrambling to stay afloat.

It's also an example that your damned to hell pizz on my head and it'll 'Trickle Down' economic crap is pure unadulterated BS.  Ex, myself, and others have pointed out to you on innumerable occasions that lil' obvious fact.

The rich have corrupted the system - especially under your much loved Repug administrations - so that they can take more and more out of our economic system leaving less and less to go around for the rest of us poor peons.

If you really want a better economy instead of just your corrupt creeps in control bleeding this country dry for their masters, we need to rope and corral the rich.  We can start with a few things.

1)  Capital Gains is where the rich really screw the rest of us.  It allows them to make a ton of money at things that don't benefit the rest of us to any appreciable percent.  Raise the Capital Gains tax rate to 90% - 95%.  It will then be far more profitable to make investments in things that produce something other than paper assets, and when things are being produced, people like you and I benefit.

2)  Tax foreign assets, accounts, and holdings at 90% - 95%.  It will then be far more profitable to keep those assets, accounts, and holdings here in country and to also put those to work in real production.  Again, people like you and I benefit.

3)  Force manufacturing back into this country by adopting a 'sell here' - 'build here' trade policy.  Last I heard, we are still the biggest market in the world and have nothing to lose and everything to gain by using that trade policy - coincidentally it's what I hear is China's trade policy towards us and possibly the rest of the world not under their control.

4)  Teddy Roosevelt - break up the monopolies/oligopolies.  'Too big to fail' is FAR too much control over the economy and anything else.

5)  My favorite, and one I've been pushing for years, get rid of the legal fiction of corporations.  Their primary purpose is to shield from liability, responsibility, and risk - something that shows all your RW Capitalistic ballyhoo about your beloved 'job creators' taking such great risks which deserve great rewards is more of your pure unadulterated BS..  This legal fiction is detrimental to our society if for nothing else than it allows the rich to use corporations to screw the rest of society.

[Palehorse]

Hank, you're a hoot and don't even have the sense gawd gave a goose to realize it.

As Ex so aptly pointed out, the money we cede in taxes to our government is money we put into society and, when corruption isn't at hand, comes back to benefit us as a society.

Here you're using a quote to argue that the money should go, not to benefit us all as members of society, but to benefit the rich - where the corruption enters in the first place.

The rich aren't like you and I economically.  The rich take money out of the economy - the very thing that Repug idiot and you are arguing against and that Rob-me didn't want you to see his taxes for - remember those accounts in the Caymans and Switzerland and other overseas accounts and investments?  You don't really think that money is at work in our economy do you, or the money of the rich in general?

You and I, on the other hand, circulate money in the economy.  We have to, we don't make enough money to do otherwise, because the rich are greedy and don't share if they can corrupt the process and avoid it.  The rich put themselves in a position where they make money whether the economy is good for the rest of us or not.  I give you as an example the increase of the wealth of the rich and corporations during this 'Great Recession' where the rest of us are scrambling to stay afloat.

It's also an example that your damned to hell pizz on my head and it'll 'Trickle Down' economic crap is pure unadulterated BS.  Ex, myself, and others have pointed out to you on innumerable occasions that lil' obvious fact.

The rich have corrupted the system - especially under your much loved Repug administrations - so that they can take more and more out of our economic system leaving less and less to go around for the rest of us poor peons.

If you really want a better economy instead of just your corrupt creeps in control bleeding this country dry for their masters, we need to rope and corral the rich.  We can start with a few things.

1)  Capital Gains is where the rich really screw the rest of us.  It allows them to make a ton of money at things that don't benefit the rest of us to any appreciable percent.  Raise the Capital Gains tax rate to 90% - 95%.  It will then be far more profitable to make investments in things that produce something other than paper assets, and when things are being produced, people like you and I benefit.

2)  Tax foreign assets, accounts, and holdings at 90% - 95%.  It will then be far more profitable to keep those assets, accounts, and holdings here in country and to also put those to work in real production.  Again, people like you and I benefit.

3)  Force manufacturing back into this country by adopting a 'sell here' - 'build here' trade policy.  Last I heard, we are still the biggest market in the world and have nothing to lose and everything to gain by using that trade policy - coincidentally it's what I hear is China's trade policy towards us and possibly the rest of the world not under their control.

4)  Teddy Roosevelt - break up the monopolies/oligopolies.  'Too big to fail' is FAR too much control over the economy and anything else.

5)  My favorite, and one I've been pushing for years, get rid of the legal fiction of corporations.  Their primary purpose is to shield from liability, responsibility, and risk - something that shows all your RW Capitalistic ballyhoo about your beloved 'job creators' taking such great risks which deserve great rewards is more of your pure unadulterated BS..  This legal fiction is detrimental to our society if for nothing else than it allows the rich to use corporations to screw the rest of society.

[Exterminator]

And, of course, completely ignored.   

[Locutus]

And, of course, completely ignored.   

That's because it has more words than a sound bite.   

[Henry Hawk]

What would be the point?

[Exterminator]

What would be the point?

Agreed; it is hard to refute something so obvious.

[Palehorse]

Time tuh do muh SNOW dance!

                                                                                  
                                                                     
                                                         
                                             
                                 
                     
         
 
         
                     
                                 
                                             
                                                         
                                                                     
                                                                                 

[Palehorse]