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Started by Palehorse, September 19, 2006, 06:55:07 AM

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followsthewolf

And, of course, since you piss in the wind, you assume others commit the same act.

That is pretty much typical of your other assumptions, which you are wont to make in the fashion that supports your spin on the topic being discussed.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on December 13, 2010, 01:31:04 PM
Of course not because they don't exist any more than the ones about the virgin mother or raising from the dead.

approximately 2700 years ago, Isaiah wrote; Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: followsthewolf on December 13, 2010, 01:34:33 PM
And, of course, since you piss in the wind, you assume others commit the same act.

That is pretty much typical of your other assumptions, which you are wont to make in the fashion that supports your spin on the topic being discussed.

later  :rolleyes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 13, 2010, 01:43:50 PM
approximately 2700 years ago, Isaiah wrote; Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel. Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. For before the child shall know to refuse the evil, and choose the good, the land that thou abhorrest shall be forsaken of both her kings.

Which OT book and passage is this?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll


Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 13, 2010, 02:40:34 PM
Isaiah 7:14

There seems to be a lot of contention over that perticular translation but I wouldn't expect you to know that or consider the possibility if it contrdicts what you want to believe so let's move on for the time being...

The part about him being crucified and rising from the dead?  Where's that again?  (I'm sure you'll find someone who says it exists...sigh)
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on December 13, 2010, 02:56:05 PM
There seems to be a lot of contention over that perticular translation but I wouldn't expect you to know that or consider the possibility if it contrdicts what you want to believe so let's move on for the time being...

The part about him being crucified and rising from the dead?  Where's that again?  (I'm sure you'll find someone who says it exists...sigh)

  The way I get it is, the father and the son and the holy ghost are the same person, God.  When he played dead on the cross and they put him in the cave.  He just evaporated and went straight back to heaven.  That's why no one of earth could find him.  Good trick, right Exerminator?

Exterminator

Quote from: The Troll on December 13, 2010, 03:15:01 PM
  The way I get it is, the father and the son and the holy ghost are the same person, God.

That holy trinity stuff is how they get around the obvious conundrum of the first commandment.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on December 13, 2010, 02:56:05 PM
There seems to be a lot of contention over that perticular translation but I wouldn't expect you to know that or consider the possibility if it contrdicts what you want to believe so let's move on for the time being...

The part about him being crucified and rising from the dead?  Where's that again?  (I'm sure you'll find someone who says it exists...sigh)

the crucifixion:

Isaiah 53:5-7 (NIV) But he was pierced for our transgressions, he was crushed for our iniquities; the punishment that brought us peace was upon him, and by his wounds we are healed. 6 We all, like sheep, have gone astray, each of us has turned to his own way; and the LORD has laid on him the iniquity of us all. 7 He was oppressed and afflicted, yet he did not open his mouth; he was led like a lamb to the slaughter, and as a sheep before her shearers is silent, so he did not open his mouth.

Isaiah 53:12 (NIV) Therefore I will give him a portion among the great, and he will divide the spoils with the strong, because he poured out his life unto death, and was numbered with the transgressors. For he bore the sin of many, and made intercession for the transgressors.

Isaiah 53:10-12 would also seem to be consistent with Jesus' resurrection:
 
But the LORD was pleased
To crush Him, putting Him to grief;
If He would render Himself as a guilt offering,
He will see His offspring, He will prolong His days,
And the good pleasure of the LORD will prosper in His hand.
As a result of the anguish of His soul,
He will see it and be satisfied;
By His knowledge the Righteous One, My Servant, will justify the many,
As He will bear their iniquities.
Therefore, I will allot Him a portion with the great,
And He will divide the booty with the strong;
Because He poured out Himself to death,
And was numbered with the transgressors;
Yet He Himself bore the sin of many,
And interceded for the transgressors.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

That's all past tense, Hank, not a prophecy of the future at all but nice try.  Sounds to any thinking person like the story of geebuz was retrofitted to fulfill some supposed prophecy rather than the other way around and, of course, the old testament may have (probably) originated from a Mithraic religion as well.  Then there's still that pesky business of that December 25th date that started this conversation...
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

followsthewolf

And some people should just keep their mouths shut, observe their customs quietly, and leave others alone to believe and observe theirs.
Ignorance and fanaticism are ravenous. They require constant feeding.

Anne

Good advice for more than one person, don't you think?
"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin

Palehorse

Quote from: Anne on December 13, 2010, 03:52:25 PM
Good advice for more than one person, don't you think?

Got a mirror?
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Anne

"A discontented man will find no easy chair." Ben Franklin