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Freedom and benevolence go hand in hand...

Started by Henry Hawk, July 11, 2007, 08:29:36 AM

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Henry Hawk

July 11, 2007, 08:29:36 AM
Here is an article by John Stossel, where he interviews Michael Moore about Governments role on benevolence....I think John does a good job of explaining how, most or at least my take on the conservative view is about this...if you get a chance, read it... ;) :)



http://www.townhall.com/columnists/column.aspx?UrlTitle=freedom_and_benevolence_go_together&ns=JohnStossel&dt=07/11/2007&page=1
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Y

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July 15, 2007, 03:57:54 PM
Henry, once again, what is the purpose of government?

:biggrin:
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Henry Hawk

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July 15, 2007, 06:49:06 PM
Quote from: Y on July 15, 2007, 03:57:54 PM
Henry, once again, what is the purpose of government?

:biggrin:

well i know it's not to tax the working class into poverty...like it's been trying to do to us for years now...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Y

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July 15, 2007, 07:05:58 PM
Quote from: Henry Hawk on July 15, 2007, 06:49:06 PM
well i know it's not to tax the working class into poverty...like it's been trying to do to us for years now...

That's a progressive taxation issue (something to which, IIRC, you, being a 'conservative' - read 'reactionary' - don't ascribe), which should be handled by those who benefit the most paying the lions share for that privilege.

Now back to the subject: What is the purpose of government?

:biggrin:
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Henry Hawk

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July 16, 2007, 01:13:24 PM
Quote from: Y on July 15, 2007, 07:05:58 PM
That's a progressive taxation issue (something to which, IIRC, you, being a 'conservative' - read 'reactionary' - don't ascribe), which should be handled by those who benefit the most paying the lions share for that privilege.

Now back to the subject: What is the purpose of government?

:biggrin:

Are we talking the United States Government?...because that is a broad question... ;)

Our Gov...was designed to give us....a life of liberty and the pursuit of happiness....with protection of our properities....
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Palehorse

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July 16, 2007, 01:16:39 PM
I didn't read anything in your post surrounding "providing for the common defense and promoting the general welfare". . .Henry.
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