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Started by awol, October 07, 2006, 08:45:05 PM

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awol

October 07, 2006, 08:45:05 PM
for any event there are an increasing number of outcomes as one projects further into time, to infinite.

with me?

ok.  then how about this...

An event occurs in space-time.  The event is witnessed by 100 people, and recorded.  Of the 100 witnesses, 99 describe the event similarly, and 1 of the witnesses describes the event differently.  The recording is played back, and of course the recording ?agrees? with the majority.  The single different witness is proven incorrect.

This is how it should be, and all is right with the world.

However, since it is one of infinite possibilities, in some (indeed an infinite number) of the ensuing space-time continuities the one witness must be vindicated.  So my question is what has happened in these continuities?  Has the witness altered the past through his own perception of it?  Does this mean that future events can affect the past?
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

awol

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October 11, 2006, 06:56:11 PM
sorry i haven't posted more here.  i was waiting to see if anyone else was interested.  this wasn't about politics or rewriting history, this was supposed to be about paradox and inevitability.

you didn't wreck it, you just added your take. :smile:

i'm open to all ideas in this area.
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

~Daisy~

#2
October 11, 2006, 07:10:09 PM
I read it, and understood for a while, but my brain just can't handle it right now. Someone pass the doob and I'll be all over this subject! LOL
If you don't like what you're doing, you can always pick up your needle and move to another groove.
--Timothy Leary

awol

#3
October 11, 2006, 07:16:17 PM
<-- bogarting the gange 8) :biggrin:
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

~Daisy~

#4
October 11, 2006, 07:18:32 PM
Damn you! Puff puff pass!
If you don't like what you're doing, you can always pick up your needle and move to another groove.
--Timothy Leary

awol

#5
October 11, 2006, 07:40:59 PM
*puff* *puff* :biggrin:
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

~Daisy~

#6
October 11, 2006, 07:42:19 PM
paaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaass?
If you don't like what you're doing, you can always pick up your needle and move to another groove.
--Timothy Leary

awol

#7
October 11, 2006, 07:52:24 PM
ok

*puff* *pass*

ear
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

~Daisy~

#8
October 11, 2006, 07:52:43 PM
SHOTGUN!
If you don't like what you're doing, you can always pick up your needle and move to another groove.
--Timothy Leary

awol

#9
October 11, 2006, 07:55:21 PM
okokok ;D
like, how do i know that the color red is the same for you as it is for me? :biggrin:
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

~Daisy~

#10
October 11, 2006, 07:56:48 PM
I KNOW!

I have asked that soooooo many times!
If you don't like what you're doing, you can always pick up your needle and move to another groove.
--Timothy Leary

Sandy Eggo

#11
October 20, 2006, 09:29:42 AM
Quote from: awol on October 07, 2006, 08:45:05 PM
An event occurs in space-time.  The event is witnessed by 100 people, and recorded.  Of the 100 witnesses, 99 describe the event similarly, and 1 of the witnesses describes the event differently.  The recording is played back, and of course the recording ?agrees? with the majority.  The single different witness is proven incorrect.

This is how it should be, and all is right with the world.

However, since it is one of infinite possibilities, in some (indeed an infinite number) of the ensuing space-time continuities the one witness must be vindicated.  So my question is what has happened in these continuities?  Has the witness altered the past through his own perception of it?  Does this mean that future events can affect the past?


This makes me think of a relative. She places herself in situations that she wasn't even born for. If you have a discussion with her, you should pull out the tape recorder and record it, because down-the-line, she changes history to reflect her perspective. In that respect, the future does alter the past, because after a time, you become frustrated/bored with trying to convince her that her take isn't accurate.

The thought of the infininte possiblities is so fascinating when you consider it and obviously so true. The smallest gesture in the present can effect everything in the future and often w/out us even realizing. Does it happen in the reverse ...other than the "play back", I'm not sure how it can.
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

awol

#12
October 21, 2006, 10:52:38 AM
Quote from: MsMojo on October 20, 2006, 09:29:42 AM
This makes me think of a relative. She places herself in situations that she wasn't even born for. If you have a discussion with her, you should pull out the tape recorder and record it, because down-the-line, she changes history to reflect her perspective. In that respect, the future does alter the past, because after a time, you become frustrated/bored with trying to convince her that her take isn't accurate.

The thought of the infininte possiblities is so fascinating when you consider it and obviously so true. The smallest gesture in the present can effect everything in the future and often w/out us even realizing. Does it happen in the reverse ...other than the "play back", I'm not sure how it can.

i have a relative like that as well!  the question that keeps coming back is, who's perception of the events is "more valid"?  is it just the quantity of perceptions contrary to hers?  if she sees the event a certain way and that makes her happy, and everyone else sees it another, why is her perception "invalid"?
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin

Sandy Eggo

#13
October 21, 2006, 07:57:21 PM
In  her case, it's invalid because she wasn't born yet and can't have any true sensory knowledge of the events. I'm not being funny. I'm very serious. Another example is the way she remembers something that happened to her, but it didn't it was someone else or she wasn't there.

However, I also see what  you're saying. I'd compare it to reading a newspaper, perhaps. You and I can read the same paper, but based on our own personal biases, environment, etc., our perception of what happened is different. Which of us is wrong? Hard to say. Then as you and I go through life and explain those events to someone else, we could be changing history.

(sorry for the total hijack of your thread . . . I think perhaps you're speaking of the future events actually changing the past as opposed to our individual perceptions and relaying information changing the past)
Only after the last tree has been cut down. Only after the last river has been poisoned. Only after the last fish has been caught. Only then will you find that money cannot be eaten. - -Cree Indian Prophecy

"Women who strive to be equal to men lack ambitition" -- anonymous

awol

#14
October 22, 2006, 12:03:50 PM
Quote from: MsMojo on October 21, 2006, 07:57:21 PM
(sorry for the total hijack of your thread . . . I think perhaps you're speaking of the future events actually changing the past as opposed to our individual perceptions and relaying information changing the past)

no problem at all.  this is usually too deep a topic for the boards, but i thought i'd give it a try.  at least you and cookie gave some input, and i'm not really harsh about staying on topic when it's not a political thread.
"Those who dance are considered insane by those who can't hear the music." - George Carlin
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