The Hawks 'Bar & Grille'

[The Troll]

I have an inground pool - 16 x 32. I spend practically nothing on chemicals and the water is beautiful.

I have an AutoPilot chlorinator system. It makes chlorine from the salt in the pool water. I have to add about 100 lbs of salt in the spring (total cost about $25) I adjust the chlorine level at the 'computer' on the wall that controls the system.

I have a Polaris pool vacuum, so when I need to clean the bottom, I just flip a switch on the wall and the little robot crawls along the bottom sucking up stuff into his bag - it doesn't go into the filter.

Speaking of filters, you can't beat DE filters!

I admit that these will add a bit to the cost of the pool, but I wouldn't have a pool without them. And I have had my pool since 1986.

  You live in Florida don't you.  Clean air and no maple trees.  Right.  Never was a Salt Pilot in my day with a pool.  New technology, huh.  Here in Indiana with out a pool heater the pool temperature is only 70 degrees in July, to cool to swim in.  Quite an expense for 3 good months a year.

  Most of the people here in Indiana, after they have them a few years.  They fill them in and plant grass.  I know one couple with a ground pool, put in in Japanese Koi fish and Lilly pads and a few bull frogs.  After 7 years for me it was a pain in the ass.   

[Palehorse]

The HOA (Nazi's) where I live will only allow an in ground pool. No above grounds.

And in ground pools in this part of the country are BIG $$! 

[me]

The HOA (Nazi's) where I live will only allow an in ground pool. No above grounds.

And in ground pools in this part of the country are BIG $$! 

Not to mention the added ins cost and increase in the tax's.  No extra property tax on an above ground pool. 

[Bo D]

  You live in Florida don't you.  Clean air and no maple trees.  Right.  Never was a Salt Pilot in my day with a pool.  New technology, huh.  Here in Indiana with out a pool heater the pool temperature is only 70 degrees in July, to cool to swim in.  Quite an expense for 3 good months a year.

  Most of the people here in Indiana, after they have them a few years.  They fill them in and plant grass.  I know one couple with a ground pool, put in in Japanese Koi fish and Lilly pads and a few bull frogs.  After 7 years for me it was a pain in the ass.   

Maryland. With a small forest of huge maples not 50 feet from the northeast side of the pool.

[The Troll]

The HOA (Nazi's) where I live will only allow an in ground pool. No above grounds.

And in ground pools in this part of the country are BIG $$! 

  I really feel for you Horse about HOA's.  I know some people over in Noblesville, Ind.  who have very nice houses where the HOA's rule with an iron hand. 

  One person couldn't plant a tree, because of the grounds keeper.  One couldn't put a tomato plant in his front planter box.  One had to go to the HOA's meeting to have his replacement garage door OK-ed because he wanted windows in it.  One home owner had to take down a swing set he had bought for his kids.  Why, because it was to cheap.  The wanted him to buy the approved set which was solid red wood and cost $1,800.

  Like you said, they are Nazis.  One person I knew didn't like the way the HOA members were, he and his close friends ran for the HOA board.  He won the top job and his friend got the other board chairs.  He changed a lot of stupid rules.  Some of the ex-board members sold their houses and move out. 

[Bo D]

On the other side of HOA's. They do play a part in protecting property values and the overall beauty of a neighborhood. When I first moved into my home in 1975 (yes ... I still live in the same place) it was a beautiful neighborhood. Then after about 15 years, the HOA dissolved. Now I have a neighbor who lets ths grass grow a foot tall before she cuts it. Another neighbor who has a couple of junk cars parked in his front yard. Another neighbor who leaves his trash cans and recycling bins at the end of his driveway - forever.   

[The Troll]

Maryland. With a small forest of huge maples not 50 feet from the northeast side of the pool.

  The trees must be down wind and you're lucky.  It seem to me that every tree wanted their leaves to die in my pool every year.  I asked a person in Florida why everybody had screens over their pools.  Is it to keep out the leaves?  No he said, it is to keep the millions of blood sucking bugs off you.     I guess everybody has some problems.  Huh.   

[Bo D]

  The trees must be down wind and you're lucky.  It seem to me that every tree wanted their leaves to die in my pool every year.  I asked a person in Florida why everybody had screens over their pools.  Is it to keep out the leaves?  No he said, it is to keep the millions of blood sucking bugs off you.     I guess everybody has some problems.  Huh.   

Yeah, I am lucky. The trees are to the northeast and most of our wind comes from the west and northwest. Even so, when we get a Noreaster, it isn't that big a problem. The little robot in the pool picks up most of the stuff that blows in.

[Henry Hawk]

On the other side of HOA's. They do play a part in protecting property values and the overall beauty of a neighborhood. When I first moved into my home in 1975 (yes ... I still live in the same place) it was a beautiful neighborhood. Then after about 15 years, the HOA dissolved. Now I have a neighbor who lets ths grass grow a foot tall before she cuts it. Another neighbor who has a couple of junk cars parked in his front yard. Another neighbor who leaves his trash cans and recycling bins at the end of his driveway - forever.   

I have no problem with HOA's if you know up front all the rules and regulations BEFORE you buy your home.  You know what you are getting into....or at least you should have.  They can be a good thing.  I like being out in the country, on my own property to do what I want to, or at least within reason.

[The Troll]

I have no problem with HOA's if you know up front all the rules and regulations BEFORE you buy your home.  You know what you are getting into....or at least you should have.  They can be a good thing.  I like being out in the country, on my own property to do what I want to, or at least within reason.

  We got enough regulation from the town and the country.  I don't want three or four old pinch face old women coming to my door and telling me what to do.   

[The Troll]

On the other side of HOA's. They do play a part in protecting property values and the overall beauty of a neighborhood. When I first moved into my home in 1975 (yes ... I still live in the same place) it was a beautiful neighborhood. Then after about 15 years, the HOA dissolved. Now I have a neighbor who lets ths grass grow a foot tall before she cuts it. Another neighbor who has a couple of junk cars parked in his front yard. Another neighbor who leaves his trash cans and recycling bins at the end of his driveway - forever.   

  In my little town you don't keep junk cars in your yard.  They be towed and you will be charge for the towing bill.  Leave you grass uncut.  The town will do it for you and charge you an arm and a leg for it.  Little things like that helps.

  But, trash cans can disappear forever.    My main gripe is we had a single mother who bought the house next to me.  She has two boys.  She put up a basketball hoop right next to the street.  The boy play basketball out in a very busy street.  Pass traffic has already hit the goal one time.  Who knows she might want them run over. 

[Locutus]

I say we open up the Bar & Grille in celebration of Sunny's return!   Now where's the bartender??  I'm buying.

[Palehorse]

I say we open up the Bar & Grille in celebration of Sunny's return!   Now where's the bartender??  I'm buying.

I'll drink to that! 

[Sunny]

I say we open up the Bar & Grille in celebration of Sunny's return!   Now where's the bartender??  I'm buying.

Sounds good...hope I'm not too late! Darn husband worked my butt off last night in the yard. Slave driver! I have to chuckle....our home in FL has a HOA and I'd say they fall into the Nazi category. Can't paint house without prior permission, must keep grass healthy (can be a feat in FL during dry season), no farm animals, harleys, rv's or boats. The good news is that your assured neighborhood integrity. Our home in PA is in a "rural residential" area and homeowner can do as they please, within reason. We woke up this past Monday to one of our neighbors cutting all of the limbs of our pine trees that fell on his property. We now can see directly into his back lot from our deck and have to look at all of his JUNK!

So, last night dh decided to "build a fence". I feel like the Hatfields 'n McCoys. We might need a lot of drinks before this is all over! 

[Henry Hawk]

sorry I am late, but drink up!!!