Gore says Bush administration paying scientists to dispute global warming

[Henry Hawk]

I think the opposite.  9/11 brought us together, Iraq is tearing us apart.

That is what I meant actualy.....the Iraq thing, to me, has more to do with standing on principal...right or wrong, we decided to go in and take out Saddam...now that it is a mess, having the conviction to see this out is the principal,...not cutting and running...imo

[IYT]

I guess we have differing opinions on how vital the war in Iraq is to the war on terror.

[Henry Hawk]

I guess we have differing opinions on how vital the war in Iraq is to the war on terror.

One question, did you agree, at the time, that we should disarm Saddam??

[Henry Hawk]

http://www.cnn.com/POLITICS/blogs/politicalticker/2007/02/gore-says-bush-administration-paying.html

MADRID , SPAIN (CNN) -- Former Vice President Al Gore said in an interview on Tuesday the Bush administration is now paying scientists to dispute global warming since the administration can no longer argue against it.
During an interview with CNN affiliate Cuatro in Madrid, Gore said, "they've lost the argument and they don't want to stop dumping all this pollution into the Earth's atmosphere. The only thing they have left is cash and now they're offering cash for so-called skeptics who will try to confuse people about what the science really say. But it's unethical because now the time has come when we have to act."

Gore was the Democratic nominee against Bush in the 2000 presidential election. His film, An Inconvenient Truth, is up for the best documentary Oscar.

Does anybody have ANY proof to this statment or can back it up with any FACTS??......

I would like to see it...

still waiting...

[IYT]

I thought Saddam was a horrible human being, but I didn't think it was our business or responsibility to take him out.  Am I glad he's no longer in power?  Yes.  Would I have rather the peoples of the region stand up and do it themselves?  Yes.  People always complain about citizens of the U.S. wanting government handouts, yet they don't complain when we WASTE money on a region that has been at war with itself for centuries and will continue to do so regardless of whether we feel we can "save the day."  This is just a huge mess and the strategy needs to be changed, IMO.  Why do we feel that a stable Iraq is so important?  It will never be stable, IMO, and the sooner we get the hell out of Bagdad, the better of we'll be (at least financially).  That doesn't mean stop fighting the war on terror, but just reevaluate our priorities in the war on terror.  Iraq was just one of many nations that sponser terror.  Winning this war will not end terrorism.  Nothing will, IMO.  I just think (or hope) the minds in Washington could come up with a little better way to go about it than "Stay the course."      

[IYT]

still waiting...

Al made the claim...burden of proof is on his shoulders, not ours. 

[Henry Hawk]

I thought Saddam was a horrible human being, but I didn't think it was our business or responsibility to take him out.  Am I glad he's no longer in power?  Yes.  Would I have rather the peoples of the region stand up and do it themselves?  Yes.  People always complain about citizens of the U.S. wanting government handouts, yet they don't complain when we WASTE money on a region that has been at war with itself for centuries and will continue to do so regardless of whether we feel we can "save the day."  This is just a huge mess and the strategy needs to be changed, IMO.  Why do we feel that a stable Iraq is so important?  It will never be stable, IMO, and the sooner we get the hell out of Bagdad, the better of we'll be (at least financially).  That doesn't mean stop fighting the war on terror, but just reevaluate our priorities in the war on terror.  Iraq was just one of many nations that sponser terror.  Winning this war will not end terrorism.  Nothing will, IMO.  I just think (or hope) the minds in Washington could come up with a little better way to go about it than "Stay the course."      

I think, many, many people think like you, I do to an extint...but, it is much easier to see this now, than before.....It was severely miscalculated.....but, that is water under the bridge.....as far as fighting terrorism, we ARE....we are eliminating insurgents, or radical islamic militants.....daily....can we ever win..???....why not?....I know we can't as long as we are divided over here, but, If the world would rally around this, I absolutly believe we can...

Now with that said, ... this President will never see that......we need a new leader, (in two years) who can rally, this country and the world, to wipe these guy out at least to the point of where they no longer hold a threat to anyone.....but, I know many hate this President, but he has led, under amazing circimstances and has not waivered.....I do not think he is the best thing since apple butter, but, he has been the right man, in the right place at the right time....imo..

[Henry Hawk]

Al made the claim...burden of proof is on his shoulders, not ours. 

absolutly,......my whole point is, that NOBODY (THE PRESS INPARTICULAR)  will never hold him accountable for saying those words...he gets a free pass....the will print it and just take it as the truth.....that is the liberal bias that gripes my ass....

[IYT]

we are eliminating insurgents, or radical islamic militants.....daily.

ANd at the same time, we are creating new ones for tommorrow, daily.

[Henry Hawk]

ANd at the same time, we are creating new ones for tommorrow, daily.

I hear people saying that, but, based on what facts??......How can that be proven??

[IYT]

absolutly,......my whole point is, that NOBODY (THE PRESS INPARTICULAR)  will never hold him accountable for saying those words...he gets a free pass....the will print it and just take it as the truth.....that is the liberal bias that gripes my ass....

Hopefully American minds will see past the media's perspective, or bias as you like to call it, and think for themselves.  I voted for Gore in 2000, but I could care less what he has to say about the environment.  Like you've been saying, it's politics and as long as Gore is a politician, his "facts" mean nothing to me.    

[IYT]

I hear people saying that, but, based on what facts??......How can that be proven??

Well I guess we could take a survey...hell I don't know.  But logic would dictate that as divided as Iraq is, there will be some anti-American ideals passed on to the next generation.  I know this is a slippery slope, but it seems logical to me.  But of course, this is just my opinion.

[Henry Hawk]

Well I guess we could take a survey...hell I don't know.  But logic would dictate that as divided as Iraq is, there will be some anti-American ideals passed on to the next generation.  I know this is a slippery slope, but it seems logical to me.  But of course, this is just my opinion.

I think they are being fed in from Syria and Iran....I think for the most Iraqis are not militant towards us...they have been eliminated....that is my point that if the world would kick in, and demand Syria and Iran to get rid of these "militant" ... this war could be won...but, for what ever reason that is clear as a can be to me, and I know it is clear as mud to many....so ...  ......who knows..

[IYT]

But we can't demand Syria and Iran to do anything without war...it's just a big clusterf**k.  Anyway, I've enjoyed our dialouge but since it's five, I'm going home.  Have a good evening and don't eat too many beans.  I'll be back tomorrow.

[Henry Hawk]

But we can't demand Syria and Iran to do anything without war...it's just a big clusterf**k.  Anyway, I've enjoyed our dialouge but since it's five, I'm going home.  Have a good evening and don't eat too many beans.  I'll be back tomorrow.

Hope you had a good evening...

The negotiating powers would be much more powerful with world support, and even the threat of war to these guys with world support, could influence the people there to oust those in power and accomadate the needs.....