Fairness Doctrine

[Bo D]

People! Show some originality, please! "Written by a liberal" ...... "Those are old stats"

Is that the best you can do? Show me some hard facts, not some drivel from one of your talking heads.

[me]

Whats the point.  If we showed you something you would say, "oh, that was written by a conservative", or "well, maybe it's up to date but it's wrong". 

[Bo D]

Whats the point.  If we showed you something you would say, "oh, that was written by a conservative", or "well, maybe it's up to date but it's wrong". 

Try me! Or don't you have anything to show?

[Henry Hawk]

Ohh....really? Take the talking heads out of the picture and what do you get?


But it's not true. On any given day, more people typically tune to CNN than to Fox .

We is his proof?.....Just because he says this does not mean it is so.....the Nielson ratings clearly show Fox ahead.....and there is a reason for this....people watch it because they get the facts there....no spin....

[Bo D]

.....the Nielson ratings clearly show Fox ahead.....

Didn't bother to read the report did you Henry?

Typical

"But there is another important number collected by Nielsen (though only made available to the firm's clients) that tells another story. This is the "cume," the cumulative total number of viewers who watch a channel for at least six minutes during a given day. Unlike the average ratings number the media usually report, this number gives the same weight to the light viewer, who tunes in for a brief time, as it does to the heavy viewer. "

[Henry Hawk]

it's TIT for TAT....the point is still valid, despite your spin


what's with the "typical" slam?


the bottom line is....democrats want gov censorship to stop people like Rush and Hannity from speaking on "free" airwaves....

[Bo D]

it's TIT for TAT....the point is still valid, despite your spin


what's with the "typical" slam?


the bottom line is....democrats want gov censorship to stop people like Rush and Hannity from speaking on "free" airwaves....

Don't change the subject, Henry. I did not spin the numbers and if you would bother to read you would see that.

[Bo D]

As for the "typical" comment, it is simply an observation that you refuse to read anything you disagree with or have been told to disagree with by Rush Almighy.

[Bo D]

it's TIT for TAT....the point is still valid, despite your spin

Give me some numbers, Henry. To refute what I posted! Show me your ratings for hard news programs, minus the talking head segments.

[Henry Hawk]

As for the "typical" comment, it is simply an observation that you refuse to read anything you disagree with or have been told to disagree with by Rush Almighy.

I HAVE read your links...I always do, that does not mean it is the truth, and for the record I rarely listen to Rush or Hannity...I get the majority of my information off of the internet from various sites...Drudge, USA Today, Foxnews, Pat Dollard.....


Here are some numbers you wanted.....

The Scoreboard: Friday, June 29
25-54 demographic: (LS)

Total day: FNC: 239 | CNN: 165 | MSNBC: 110 | HLN: 101 | CNBC: 59

Prime: FNC: 306 | CNN: 258 | MSNBC: 237 | HLN: 167 | CNBC: 59         
                   5p:          6p:         7p:           8p:          9p:         10p:         11p:

FNC       Gibson:     Hume:     Shep:       O'Reilly:      H&C:       Greta:      O'Reilly: 
                175          261         309          305           275         340          246 

CNN          Blitzer:      Dobbs:     Blitzer:     Zahn:        King:       Cooper:     Cooper: 
               131           234         189          154            348        272          170 

MSNBC      Hardball:   Tucker:    Hardball:    Countdo.:  Investig.:  Investig.:  Special: 
               117          76           134           185          239          285          258 

HLN          Prime:       Prime:      Beck:        Grace:      Beck:       Grace:       Showbiz: 
               75            71           75            220          122          160           172 

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/

[Sandy Eggo]

I think he said w/out the "talking heads". Real news, Henry.

[Bo D]

I think he said w/out the "talking heads". Real news, Henry.

Yes, I did. Henry's either desperate or ........ well, let's not go there. I like the guy and I don't want to hurt him. 

[Henry Hawk]

whatever Bo....

big deal, nobody watches the evening news if that is what you want...I can post it also, but there are at best 20 million people max watching the evening news...among the three networks...anyone of the cable news outlets has way more at that time slot.

http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/evening_news_ratings/default.asp

My point to ALL of this is...and getting back on topic...

What is fair about the fairness Doctrine?

The way it is now, it is free enterprise at its best.......people CHOSE to listen to talk radio.....and many Conservatives enjoy listening to it....so advertisers pay good money for these programs....it is America at it's finest....

and Bo, I like you too.....so I'll try not to hurt you either...

[Bo D]

whatever Bo....

big deal, nobody watches the evening news if that is what you want...I can post it also, but there are at best 20 million people max watching the evening news...among the three networks...anyone of the cable news outlets has way more at that time slot.


My point to ALL of this is...and getting back on topic...

What is fair about the fairness Doctrine?

The way it is now, it is free enterprise at its best.......people CHOSE to listen to talk radio.....and many Conservatives enjoy listening to it....so advertisers pay good money for these programs....it is America at it's finest....

OK, Henry. One more comment and then you can have your topic back. I still don't think you understood the numbers. CNN's cume rating is not the "evening news" and your Fox shows are not news anyway. You said it yourself when you called them "entertainers"

OK two more comments ...  ... You also didn't read the part about advertising dollars either did you? CNN leads there also.

[Henry Hawk]

OK, Henry. One more comment and then you can have your topic back. I still don't think you understood the numbers. CNN's cume rating is not the "evening news" and your Fox shows are not news anyway. You said it yourself when you called them "entertainers"

OK two more comments ...  ... You also didn't read the part about advertising dollars either did you? CNN leads there also.

Okay, I get your points and they are good ones...

my point STILL being, there is a large audience that LIKES conservative viewpoints and news...so WHY does there HAVE to be a fairness doctrine....there are plenty of liberal based shows that does NOT compete with the conservative ones...

what is fair about Gov intervention to force a network or a producer to show something that is clearly not what people want to watch?

serious question that really bugs me......this is a real law that is trying to be pushed into play....