Just wondering

[Bo D]

What kind of entity would create something and then demand this his creation worship him on their knees or face an eternity in hell?

[The Troll]

 
  Why it would be the invisible guy in the sky, invented by the Christian and the Muslims.    Anyone with one ounce of brains and sense knows there is no god.     The religious nuts say that god can do anything.  He created the earth and the universe, but, in recorded history he never replace in one missing arm, missing eye, one leg, cured a child crooked spine or a mental damage child.  Really he can't do any thing.   

  Praying     is just a waste of time.  If you really look in to this sham, it's all smoke and mirrors.     Will somebody please say Amen.   

[AbbyTC]

I remember if I had questions and they were too hard to answer (meaning my questions were making holes in the faith) to not question and simply believe.  It was all about faith and if you didn't have it, you were doomed to hell.  Now that I'm out of it, I see how many things don't make sense, but were forced to believe if I wanted to go to heaven and be a good girl.

Why is this supposedly loving god not willing to have people question him?  Wouldn't he prefer a creation that questions and searches instead of people who blindly accept what they are told? 

When I was a believer, I remember laying awake at night feeling physically sick when I would think of living forever.  What if god got bored of us?  Would he zap us out of heaven? Would he destroy everything and start the whole process over? And the main thing I would be doing would be praising him, all of the time.  How boring! What if I didn't want to sing? Would I get zapped out of heaven?  Straight to hell with you, missy!     

[Palehorse]

What kind of entity would create something and then demand this his creation worship him on their knees or face an eternity in hell?

One created and corrupted by the greed of humankind; within various forms and under many names, each carefully designed based upon the objectives of those who use them to control the masses to work toward their personal objectives.

I rejected the Gods of humankind a very long time ago due to these practices throughout human history.

Doesn't mean I don't believe in a highest power, just not the ones humanity has created throughout time.

Not to be redundant, but in case any of you have forgotten my views on organized religion(s) throughout history, you can click the link, get yourself a beverage and a light snack, and settle down in a comfortable position and refresh your memory . . .

http://theunknownzone.dailynuisanceproductions.com/index.php?topic=13389.0

(The topic started with a paper I wrote for a theology course back in college, upon which I expanded here quite a bit back).

[The Troll]

  The Christians talk about going to heaven.    They talk about sitting at the right hand at the dinner table.  Who cooks the food and what about all of the people that has been promised that too.  Then they talk about the room they have in god's mansion.  Are they going to get room service and does it have a outside view?

  They talk about the golden street up there and how they can walk of them.  But, who owns the golden streets?  Why it's god again.  Can you imagine what rules he has on them and if you break one, will he smite you?   

  On top of that you will get to sit at the feet of god  all day and worship him and don't to forget to smile.  Remember all of the meetings your boss had and how he would tell what you are doing wrong and get the lead out of your butt and work harder.  Boooooooooring and you get to do it everyday forever.  Boring!

  For me just let me die and then when the sun expands and eats up the earth.  The sun goes out and then all of the stars go out and the Universe goes black and cold.  We all go back to the Universe.  Remembering we are made of star dust and we will go back where we were born.  This is how I feel. 

[libby]

As Palehorse wrote above, we've talked about this before, and I for one am getting a little worried.  The questions came early with me, even before I learned, as a young girl, that the sky above was not like a lid, a  cover on a pot, but endless space. I can accept that Jesus Christ was a man,  said to be God's only son, who died on the cross because of his beliefs. But the question I could not get around was, still  is, if God created everything, where did He come from? I just cannot picture a beginning or an end.

[Locutus]

Even if one were to go with the supposition of a creator of the universe, I think it's a very far stretch to say that the creator is the Judeo-Christian god. 

[Palehorse]

Even if one were to go with the supposition of a creator of the universe, I think it's a very far stretch to say that the creator is the Judeo-Christian god.

Or a god of any creation by humankind. . .

[The Troll]

Or a god of any creation by humankind. . .

  Man created the gods.  For they didn't know anything about the weather, lightning, thunder, weather changes  Let's face it they didn't know nothing.  Gods were invented to answer questions they didn't know.   

  Then the preachers found they could rule the uneducated people, by promising ever  lasting life which them cost nothing.  Getting the Sheeple to give them money and power.  It's still smoke and mirrors now, just as before.  It's all about money and power.  Just look at the preachers of today living in multi-million dollar houses and flying all around the world in 30 to 40 million dollar jet airplanes. 

  Another thing that pisses me off is when some thing bad happens to a person or many people, the religious assholes say, "I'll pray for you."  And it cost them nothing.  It is all bullshit.  And the older I get, the more allergic to bullshit I get.

[The Troll]

As Palehorse wrote above, we've talked about this before, and I for one am getting a little worried.  The questions came early with me, even before I learned, as a young girl, that the sky above was not like a lid, a  cover on a pot, but endless space. I can accept that Jesus Christ was a man,  said to be God's only son, who died on the cross because of his beliefs. But the question I could not get around was, still  is, if God created everything, where did He come from? I just cannot picture a beginning or an end.

  Libby, Jesus is god, the Holy Ghost is god.  God made up so many bad sins, he came down on earth and hung himself on the cross to forgive everybody for the sins he said was so bad. 

  Jesus (God) didn't die on the cross because God can't die.  Everybody forgets that God has done everything bad. He created the snake in the Garden of Eden.  God created the tree of knowledge and said, don't eat from it.  You know damn well you can't tell a woman, Eve, not to do something, because they will do it.    That is the reason God threw Adam and Eve out of Eden for trying to get a little knowledge. 

The whole God thing and the bible is pure bullshit.  It took me some time to figure that out. 

[The Troll]

  If the earth and everything on it was created by intelligent creation.  Why did the creator create germs that kill and cripple people.  Create droughts and cause million of people to die of starvation? 

  Cause Hurricanes that floods everything man has created and kills thousands of people every year.  The super creator can't be very smart for a farmer takes better care of his animals than he does.  It's all   Let us pray.      

[Palehorse]

Without death, there can be no life. Without pain, there can be no joy. Without hate, there can be no love. Without sickness, there can be no wellness. . .

Not that I buy into all the organized religious mumbo-jumbo, nor their great Sky Daddy business plans. . . But there are some philosophical truths to be had within all of that stuff, if you can develop the patience to filter through the flotsam.

[The Troll]

Without death, there can be no life. Without pain, there can be no joy. Without hate, there can be no love. Without sickness, there can be no wellness. . .

Not that I buy into all the organized religious mumbo-jumbo, nor their great Sky Daddy business plans. . . But there are some philosophical truths to be had within all of that stuff, if you can develop the patience to filter through the flotsam.

  You can find anything in the bible.  Murder, sex, adultery, greed, sex with their own children, killing their own children, sickness, plagues.  You name it and it there.  It all bullshit.  The people who believes it also believes in fairies  ghost and the devil    People who believe this has to have a screw loose. 

[Bo D]

Without death, there can be no life. Without pain, there can be no joy. Without hate, there can be no love. Without sickness, there can be no wellness. . .

Not that I buy into all the organized religious mumbo-jumbo, nor their great Sky Daddy business plans. . . But there are some philosophical truths to be had within all of that stuff, if you can develop the patience to filter through the flotsam.

PH! Have you ever heard of what Thomas Jefferson did with the Bible? He did just as you said and filtered out all the miracles and mumbo jumbo and studied it as a philosophy. Pretty neat!

[The Troll]

 

  If there is anyone out there that wants more information on Thomas Jefferson and his bible.  Go to YouTube  and type in Thomas Jefferson and his bible and there is tons of information on this subject.