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Started by Henry Hawk, May 17, 2017, 11:31:49 AM

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Quote from: Locutus on May 18, 2017, 11:08:07 AM
There are plenty of people in the FBI who aren't happy with what Trump has done, and they can fuck with him pretty good if they choose to do so. :yes:
Well, on that same level of thought, there are plenty there who do like Trump...some of them were not happy with Comey either on how he brought the loss of integrity to the FBI...........so, it may shine a light on some things that got swept under the carpet during the Obama years.

just a random thought...
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


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me

Quote from: Locutus on May 18, 2017, 10:15:59 AM
Can't you follow a discussion?  Nowhere has anyone said that it wasn't within Trump's purview to fire the FBI director.  It most certainly wasn't a sensible thing to do, especially now that he's going to have a special counsel crawl up his ass with a microscope, but it was certainly was within his power as president to do it. 

Since Hank won't answer, do you know what a direct result was when Richard Nixon started trying to mess around with the FBI?
Ya, all because they're wanting to do anything they can come up with to discredit Trump which could backfire on them big time. Of course if anything starts looking bad for them they'll cry foul and come up with something else and trash the person who found evidence of wrong doing against them.
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Locutus

As has been pointed out numerous times before, Trump is doing an excellent job discrediting himself.  He doesn't need any help.  ;D
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Quote from: me on May 18, 2017, 01:20:02 PM
Ya, all because they're wanting to do anything they can come up with to discredit Trump which could backfire on them big time. Of course if anything starts looking bad for them they'll cry foul and come up with something else and trash the person who found evidence of wrong doing against them.

We endured it for nearly ten years bunky. And we held our own to the end. You guys are just a little over 100 days in and the implosion is already under way! 😂

Wonder how long it will take the special prosecutor to subpoena those tapes the raging cheeto was spewing about on social media? And how quickly they'll figure out they ve been edited? 🦃
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The ghost of Nixon walks the halls of the White House again! 👻
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me

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Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: me on May 19, 2017, 12:08:13 PM
How do you figure that?

By simply reading the question he was asked when he made that answer.  It really is quite simple to read and comprehend if you just try.  You can't believe everything that pops up in your email box or on your Facebook feed. 

Here's the exchange with Sen. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii.  Germane parts are in bold and are my emphasis. 

Hirono: So, if the attorney general or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?

Comey: In theory, yes.

Hirono: Has it happened?

Comey: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something without appropriate purpose ... Often times they give us opinions that we don't see a case there, and so you ought to stop investing resources in it, but I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason. That would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on May 19, 2017, 12:50:56 PM
By simply reading the question he was asked when he made that answer.  It really is quite simple to read and comprehend if you just try.  You can't believe everything that pops up in your email box or on your Facebook feed. 

Here's the exchange with Sen. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii.  Germane parts are in bold and are my emphasis. 

Hirono: So, if the attorney general or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?

Comey: In theory, yes.

Hirono: Has it happened?

Comey: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something without appropriate purpose ... Often times they give us opinions that we don't see a case there, and so you ought to stop investing resources in it, but I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason. That would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience.
How much more plain can it be?
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Locutus

How much more plain can what be?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on May 19, 2017, 12:50:56 PM
By simply reading the question he was asked when he made that answer.  It really is quite simple to read and comprehend if you just try.  You can't believe everything that pops up in your email box or on your Facebook feed. 

Here's the exchange with Sen. Mazie Hirono of Hawaii.  Germane parts are in bold and are my emphasis. 

Hirono: So, if the attorney general or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?

Comey: In theory, yes.

Hirono: Has it happened?

Comey: Not in my experience. Because it would be a big deal to tell the FBI to stop doing something without appropriate purpose ... Often times they give us opinions that we don't see a case there, and so you ought to stop investing resources in it, but I'm talking about a situation where we were told to stop something for a political reason. That would be a very big deal. It's not happened in my experience.
Quote from: Locutus on May 19, 2017, 01:43:57 PM

Quote from: Locutus on May 19, 2017, 01:43:57 PM
How much more plain can what be?
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Locutus

Read the fucking question please.  :wall:

Hirono:  So, if the attorney general or senior officials at the Department of Justice opposes a specific investigation, can they halt that FBI investigation?

Translation:  Can the mentioned parties halt an investigation if they wanted to.

Comey answers in the affirmative.

Hirono: Has it happened?

Translation:  Has the attorney general or any senior Justice Department official ever halted an FBI investigation.

Comey answers no. 

The question had nothing whatsoever to do with Trump or any request he may have made along those lines.  It was simply if any attorney general or senior member of the Justice Department had ever halted an FBI investigation.

The answer is no; Comey answered no.   Ergo, no lying under oath.

That concludes today's elementary school lesson on reading, interpretation, and critical thinking skills.

PSA:  Coloring books are on sale at Wally World for those who can't comprehend the above.  :rolleyes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

For the record, I'm not a big fan of Jim Comey, but I do think he has more integrity in the nail of his pinkie finger than Trump has in his entire body. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Guess it depends on what your definition of "it" is.
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