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Started by Henry Hawk, May 17, 2017, 11:31:49 AM

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Henry Hawk

A point of view from a friend of mine....


If, as former FBI Director Comey now claims, President Trump obstructed justice by asking Comey to end the probe of Mike Flynn, then Comey himself also obstructed justice by not immediately reporting the crime to the Department of Justice. And yes, it is a crime, even if you are President, to obstruct justice and yes, it is also a crime to fail to report it to the proper authorities immediately.


If, on the other hand, it was not a request at all and no attempt was made to obstruct justice, then Comey was not obligated to report it and committed no crime. But that in turn also means that the latest flap has no merit and that Comey is a sore loser and a fraud.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
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Locutus

Hank, do you remember what happened as a direct result of Nixon trying to screw around with the FBI?
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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on May 17, 2017, 04:26:57 PM
Hank, do you remember what happened as a direct result of Nixon trying to screw around with the FBI?
And let's break this down.........according to the "memo" Trump allegedly said "I hope you can let this go,"...that doesn't sound like a direct order or even a order of any magnitude.  It sounds like he is HOPING. 

Let's just slow down a tad a let these FACTS roll in.  YOU guys are so blatantly obvious with your bias....it is kind of embarrassing.

you want so badly for SOMETHING to stick....and the media is so pissed and outraged at this POTUS.....it is kind of sad for our Nation.

btw, have you noticed the stock market tanking....merely because of the slightest implication that our media is projecting such hatred that our investors are not liking this at all.

Leave the man alone, let him do his job that he was elected to do and good things will happen.  Keep it up and bad things will follow.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

You never answered my question. ;D

Do you remember Richard Nixon's 'gift' for screwing around with the FBI in the exact same manner that Trump appears to have done?

You're more adamant in your defense than some republicans in Congress are. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on May 17, 2017, 04:41:28 PM
You never answered my question. ;D

Do you remember Richard Nixon's 'gift' for screwing around with the FBI in the exact same manner that Trump appears to have done?

You're more adamant in your defense than some republicans in Congress are. 

Let me ask you something, do you know the facts?  I'll answer for you.......NO.

Let's wait and see.....then let's discuss.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

LOL!

Of course I don't know any other facts than you do. 

Now what was Nixon's gift for screwing around with the FBI?

Do you remember what happened?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

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Exterminator

Quote from: me on May 17, 2017, 06:13:51 PM
Hum, remember this?

That's not what we're talking about, stupid.
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Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on May 17, 2017, 10:11:06 PM
That's not what we're talking about, stupid.

No, it's not, and I'm still waiting on Hank's answer. 

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on May 18, 2017, 09:04:22 AM
No, it's not, and I'm still waiting on Hank's answer. 



Wait all you want.. :yes: ...I'm not playing your game.  I'm also not even going down the road of this BS (trying to compare this to wagergate  :rolleyes: :razz: ) .....because that is all this is...BS.  The dems are imploding and they will completely disintegrate when they don't get their way on this fiasco.  ;)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 18, 2017, 09:20:07 AM
Wait all you want.. :yes: ...I'm not playing your game.  I'm also not even going down the road of this BS (trying to compare this to wagergate  :rolleyes: :razz: ) .....because that is all this is...BS.  The dems are imploding and they will completely disintegrate when they don't get their way on this fiasco.  ;)

I'm not trying to compare this to Watergate at all.  I'm just asking you what was introduced to that whole Watergate situation as a direct result of Nixon trying to mess around with the FBI.

Do you remember what it is or do you want me to tell you?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Exterminator on May 17, 2017, 10:11:06 PM
That's not what we're talking about, stupid.
But that's part of it since this all started over Trump firing Comey and whether he had a right to then they had to move on to find something else to nail him with since he did have a right to fire him.
Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: me on May 18, 2017, 10:11:40 AM
But that's part of it since this all started over Trump firing Comey and whether he had a right to then they had to move on to find something else to nail him with since he did have a right to fire him.

Can't you follow a discussion?  Nowhere has anyone said that it wasn't within Trump's purview to fire the FBI director.  It most certainly wasn't a sensible thing to do, especially now that he's going to have a special counsel crawl up his ass with a microscope, but it was certainly was within his power as president to do it. 

Since Hank won't answer, do you know what a direct result was when Richard Nixon started trying to mess around with the FBI?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on May 18, 2017, 09:22:36 AM
I'm not trying to compare this to Watergate at all.  I'm just asking you what was introduced to that whole Watergate situation as a direct result of Nixon trying to mess around with the FBI.

Do you remember what it is or do you want me to tell you?
I'm sure you are going for "obstruction of justice"
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 18, 2017, 10:33:54 AM
I'm sure you are going for "obstruction of justice"

Nope.   Not at all.

The answer I was looking for is one of the biggest leakers of all time.

Deep Throat.

Deep Throat was a direct result of Nixon's attempts to rein in an FBI investigation, and it eventually brought him down.  Deep Throat was, after all, the number two man st the FBI at the time.

There are plenty of people in the FBI who aren't happy with what Trump has done, and they can fuck with him pretty good if they choose to do so. :yes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson