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Madison County Servers - HELD RANSOM

Started by Palehorse, November 05, 2016, 11:17:47 PM

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Palehorse

Quote from: me on November 06, 2016, 07:31:57 PM
I heard that a lot of times they don't release anything even after the ransom is paid and you're out the money and the files.

I suspect that is exactly what will happen if they pay the ransom in this case.  :yes:
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Locutus

Quote from: me on November 06, 2016, 07:31:57 PM
I heard that a lot of times they don't release anything even after the ransom is paid and you're out the money and the files.

That's absolutely true.  It's part of the ugly underbelly of the Internet.
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me

Wonder if I'll have to go up there to pay my utility bill, I usually pay online. Gonna give it a try either later tonight or tomorrow but if I have to go up and pay it I guess I will. I'd rather do that than buy stamps.....
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me

Paid my utility bill just fine so it must not have affected the web site. Now whether it gets credited properly is another thing.  :yes:
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on November 07, 2016, 12:11:25 PM
Paid my utility bill just fine so it must not have affected the web site. Now whether it gets credited properly is another thing.  :yes:

Umm yeah. . . They don't have access to the online system. In fact all computers are shut off at the utility office. My guess is you just paid the software which they cannot access; and may have paid the kidnappers!

They were handing out written receipts today. . .
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That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

Locutus

Their external websites are probably hosted on the servers of other service providers and not stored on the servers with the ransomware.  That's probably why your payment was processed. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Palehorse on November 07, 2016, 05:09:20 PM
Umm yeah. . . They don't have access to the online system. In fact all computers are shut off at the utility office. My guess is you just paid the software which they cannot access; and may have paid the kidnappers!

They were handing out written receipts today. . .
As long as I have my reciept that shows I paid it I'm good and I did print it out.
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on November 07, 2016, 05:33:35 PM
As long as I have my reciept that shows I paid it I'm good and I did print it out.

You better hope so.

My money is on a double bill next cycle and a shut off notification to boot!  :spooked:
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on November 07, 2016, 05:37:49 PM
You better hope so.

My money is on a double bill next cycle and a shut off notification to boot!  :spooked:
Wow, that's unreal. Is your meter in a place where you can easily read it yourself?
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Palehorse

Quote from: me on November 07, 2016, 05:39:20 PM
Wow, that's unreal. Is your meter in a place where you can easily read it yourself?

Yep. And I will do so. . .

Next months cycle will probably all be estimated bills too. Watch. . . Probably won't go back to the automated system until after the new year.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on November 07, 2016, 05:44:14 PM
Yep. And I will do so. . .

Next months cycle will probably all be estimated bills too. Watch. . . Probably won't go back to the automated system until after the new year.
It's been a few years since I've had any problems with them and learned to read my own meter when I had an experience similar to yours before they went to the automated read. Fortunately I came out the victor and didn't have to pay the high bill, wasn't as high as yours but still high, but I've kept my eye on things since.
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Y

Having seen some interviews about this on different news channels, I'll lay money you won't get all the facts about this from local .gov under any circumstances.

It certainly appeared the spokesperson was trying to BS her way through without committing any information.
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In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

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Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Looks like they decided to pay the ransom.  I hope that works out for them, because there's really no guarantee the data will be unscrambled even after the ransom is paid. 

It also appears that they didn't have a backup.  ;D

http://www.heraldbulletin.com/news/local_news/county-to-pay-ransom-in-computer-system-hacking-case/article_0a4497a8-a516-11e6-8455-2b7f0dd5bd9a.html
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Y

That's some of it there.

She was saying the insurance company was forcing them to pay the ransom.

She was avoiding talking about backups.  Can't have the public knowing they're not doing their due diligence in protecting and safekeeping important records, now can we?   :rolleyes:
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa