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Fox News Anchor Baier Admits His Stories on Clinton and FBI Were Wrong

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Quote from: parkerdivine on December 08, 2016, 04:58:49 PM
Missed a bit of the article, hey?  You really can read all the way through it before lying about my character.

You're simply ridiculous.  I actually read the article; you obviously didn't.

That article says nothing about, and gives no evidence of, "she stole a primary".

Face it, you grasp at conspiracy theories, make up 'facts', then post articles etc. which you haven't read, and act as if it's all true and proved...

...you're the LW version of Tony Light.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: parkerdivine on December 08, 2016, 05:04:10 PM
I never voted for Trump..I voted for Bernie......I wanted BERNIE to ... and wrote him in.

Pffffttt!

You know what I think about those sort of unprovable claims - especially those which are most likely untrue and from known liars.

You stumped far too hard for Drumpf, and far too hard against Hillary, to believe your denial now.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

parkerdivine

Quote from: Y on December 08, 2016, 05:36:04 PM
Pffffttt!

You know what I think about those sort of unprovable claims - especially those which are most likely untrue and from known liars.

You stumped far too hard for Drumpf, and far too hard against Hillary, to believe your denial now.

I could care less what you think..your mind hasn't wrapped around the truth with me for years. 

I think you can't discern the fact there are republicans called neoliberals in the democratic party..and that you support the same agenda Trump does, because you support the same agenda the neoliberals have for this nation.

Here's your Obama/Clinton republican connection.



Anyone who supports a neoliberal supports the global economy for the rich.

Clinton STOPPED the FDR welfare program that allowed education to get single moms out of poverty....AND he stopped public prisons by flooding money for privatization....the list goes on...supporting the PROMOTING the TPP which Clinton did as Secretary of State shows the neoliberal LACK of concern for worker rights...

Anything you thought about the democrats in line with FDR and helping Americans was removed by the Clinton machine.

[url]http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33869-hillary-clinton-s-ghosts-a-legacy-of-pushing-the-democratic-party-to-the-right#14812370125681&action=collapse_widget&id=0&data=]http://www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=376[url]

Anyone who supports a neoliberal supports the global economy for the rich.

Clinton STOPPED the FDR welfare program that allowed education to get single moms out of poverty....AND he stopped public prisons by flooding money for privatization....the list goes on...supporting the PROMOTING the TPP which Clinton did as Secretary of State shows the neoliberal LACK of concern for worker rights...

Anything you thought about the democrats in line with FDR and helping Americans was removed by the Clinton machine.

[url]http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/33869-hillary-clinton-s-ghosts-a-legacy-of-pushing-the-democratic-party-to-the-right#14812370125681&action=collapse_widget&id=0&data=


Quote. . .

But the party's latest generation of "New Democrats" - self-described "moderates" who are funded by Wall Street and are aggressively trying to steer the party to the right - have noticed this trend and are now fighting back. Third Way, a "centrist" think tank that serves as the hub for contemporary New Democrats, has recently published a sizable policy paper, "Ready for the New Economy," urging the Democratic Party to avoid focusing on economic inequality. Former Obama chief of staff Bill Daley, a Third Way trustee, recently argued that Sanders' influence on the primary "is a recipe for disaster" for Democrats.

This "ideological gulf" inside the party, as The Washington Post's Ruth Marcus describes it, is not a new phenomenon. Before there was Third Way, there was the Democratic Leadership Council (DLC). And before there was Bill Daley, there was Hillary Clinton - a key member of the DLC's leadership team during her entire tenure in the US Senate (2000-2008). As Clinton seeks progressive support, it is important to consider her role in the influential movement to, as The American Prospect describes it, "reinvent the [Democratic] party as one pledged to fiscal restraint, less government, and a pro-business, pro-free market outlook." This fairly recent history is an important part of Clinton's record, and she owes it to primary voters to answer for it.

The Reign of the DLC

A lot has happened since the last time the Democrats had a contested primary. The 2008 economic crisis, the growth of the Occupy movement, the emergence of the Black Lives Matter movement and the consequent increase in public attention to the ongoing killings of Black people by police, and the Bernie Sanders campaign have all played major roles in shaping the political consensus of primary voters. None of these existed when Barack Obama won the nomination over Clinton in June 2008.

. . .

Find out what you are supporting...not just the feel goods corporate news tells you.

parkerdivine

Quote from: Y on December 08, 2016, 05:29:55 PM
You're simply ridiculous.  I actually read the article; you obviously didn't.

That article says nothing about, and gives no evidence of, "she stole a primary".

Face it, you grasp at conspiracy theories, make up 'facts', then post articles etc. which you haven't read, and act as if it's all true and proved...

...you're the LW version of Tony Light.

Come on....it doesn't because you refuse to see it. 

http://observer.com/2016/07/wikileaks-proves-primary-was-rigged-dnc-undermined-democracy/

QuoteOne email from DNC Deputy Communications Director Eric Walker to several DNC staffers cites two news articles showing Sanders leading in Rhode Island and the limited number of polling locations in the state: "If she outperforms this polling, the Bernie camp will go nuts and allege misconduct. They'll probably complain regardless, actually."

Instead of treating Sanders with impartiality, the DNC exhibits resentful disdain toward him and the thousands of disenfranchised voters he could have brought into the party.

"Wondering if there's a good Bernie narrative for a story, which is that Bernie never ever had his act together, that his campaign was a mess," wrote DNC Deputy Communications Director Mark Paustenbach to DNC Communications Director Luis Miranda, in response to backlash over DNC Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz shutting off the Sanders campaign's access to voter database files.

Another chain reveals MSNBC's Chuck Todd and DNC staff members discussing how to discredit MSNBC's Mika Brzezinski's call for Wasserman Schultz to resign.

Most of the emails released come from seven prominent DNC staff members: senior adviser Andrew Wright, national finance director Jordon Kaplan, finance chief of staff Scott Comer, Northern California finance director Robert Stowe, finance director of data and strategic initiatives Daniel Parrish, finance director Allen Zachary and Miranda.

The release provides further evidence the DNC broke its own charter violations by favoring Clinton as the Democratic presidential nominee, long before any votes were cast.

Over the past several weeks, Guccifer 2.0 released several internal memos showing DNC staff strategizing to make Clinton the presidential nominee—as early as March 2015. In June 2016, Florida-based law firm, Beck & Lee, filed a class action lawsuit against Wasserman Schultz and the DNC based on the revelations from these leaked files.

Other emails show DNC staff in damage control over allegations from the Sanders campaign, when a report—corroborated by a Politico—revealed the DNC's joint fundraising committee with the Clinton campaign was laundering money to the Clinton campaign instead of fundraising for down-ticket Democrats. Regardless of the fundraising tactics, because both major campaigns didn't agree to use the joint fundraising committee super-PAC with the DNC, the DNC should have recused itself from participating with just the Clinton campaign.

Does that article clear it up for you? 

Why would anyone support a candidate who doesn't believe in fair elections?  She helped in overthrowing the democracy in Honduras...apparently she wanted to do the same here.

Y

Quote from: parkerdivine on December 08, 2016, 05:45:44 PM
Come on....it doesn't because you refuse to see it. 

http://observer.com/2016/07/wikileaks-proves-primary-was-rigged-dnc-undermined-democracy/

Does that article clear it up for you?

1) No, because it wasn't there.  Obviously you can't find it there either.

2) Again, no, that second article doesn't either.  Also, you don't appear to understand the party process etc. as well you not finding what you're looking for.

Barney was never going to win the nomination.  He knew it like so many others.  Had he the voluminous support you seem to think he garnered, he could have - and would have - run as an independent candidate.

Barney's entire agenda was to push the Democratic platform to the left - nothing more, nothing less.

You idiots that bought into him as 'savior' are not an iota different than the Drumpf idiots who suckered themselves into the same BS.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

parkerdivine

Quote from: Y on December 08, 2016, 06:18:07 PM
1) No, because it wasn't there.  Obviously you can't find it there either.

2) Again, no, that second article doesn't either.  Also, you don't appear to understand the party process etc. as well you not finding what you're looking for.

Barney was never going to win the nomination.  He knew it like so many others.  Had he the voluminous support you seem to think he garnered, he could have - and would have - run as an independent candidate.

Barney's entire agenda was to push the Democratic platform to the left - nothing more, nothing less.

You idiots that bought into him as 'savior' are not an iota different than the Drumpf idiots who suckered themselves into the same BS.

Bernie WAS going to win...you just don't want to admit it.  And Corporate media tried denying it.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/7/29/1554022/-Election-Justice-USA-Study-Finds-that-Without-Election-Fraud-Sanders-Would-Have-Won-by-Landslide

QuoteWe have aimed to provide an overview of the evidence for various types of fraud and targeted voter suppression impacting the outcomes of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. After covering the legal background and the history of Election Justice USA's legal actions, our best efforts to combat election fraud and voter suppression, we gave a thorough treatment of:

1) Targeted voter suppression

2) Registration tampering

3) Illegal voter purges

4) Exit polling discrepancies

5) Evidence for voting machine tampering

6) The security (or lack thereof) of various voting machine types

Finally, we gave a date-by-date, state-by-state overview of each of these fraud or suppression types at work throughout the course of the 2016 Democratic presidential primaries. Based on this work, Election Justice USA has established an upper estimate of 184 pledged delegates lost by Senator Bernie Sanders as a consequence of specific irregularities and instances of fraud. Adding these delegates to Senator Sanders' pledged delegate total and subtracting the same number from Hillary Clinton's total would more than erase the 359 pledged delegate gap between the two candidates. EJUSA established the upper estimate through exit polling data, statistical analysis by precinct size, and attention to the details of Democratic proportional awarding of national delegates. Even small changes in vote shares in critical states like Massachusetts and New York could have substantially changed the media narrative surrounding the primaries in ways that would likely have had far reaching consequences for Senator Sanders' campaign.

Then there's this...the FEC fraud she should have been investigated for but Lynch, being a former Clinton supporter, refused to do.
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More republican "pay to play" from the neoliberal Clinton.

http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/04/01/how-hillary-clinton-bought-the-loyalty-of-33-state-democratic-parties/

QuoteIn August 2015, at the Democratic Party convention in Minneapolis, 33 democratic state parties made deals with the Hillary Clinton campaign and a joint fundraising entity called The Hillary Victory Fund. The deal allowed many of her core billionaire and inner circle individual donors to run the maximum amounts of money allowed through those state parties to the Hillary Victory Fund in New York and the DNC in Washington.

The idea was to increase how much one could personally donate to Hillary by taking advantage of the Supreme Court ruling 2014, McCutcheon v FEC, that knocked down a cap on aggregate limits as to how much a donor could give to a federal campaign in a year. It thus eliminated the ceiling on amounts spent by a single donor to a presidential candidate.

Again. your choice of candidate for the democratic party was a republican.....neoliberal...just like George W Bush...and hubby Billy.

The Troll


  Parker Divine, I heard it through the grapevine that you on another website, that you were supporting Donald Trump big time.  :huh1:

  Is this story true and you come over here saying that you were supporting Bernie.  :huh1:

  Any thing true to the grape vine news.  :huh1: