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Tulsa Police Shooting of Terence Crutcher

Started by The Troll, September 20, 2016, 09:36:22 PM

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The Troll

  When are the American people going to put a stop to killer cops killing unarmed people who have their arms up and are at least 12 feet away.  Today a cop killed another unarmed man with his hands up.   :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant: :rant: :rant:

  The damn cunt killer cop shot the unarmed man who they had just Tazed and the bitch was at least 12 feet away from him.  I say the bitch killer should be tried for murder, out and out assassination.   :rant:  We have to put a stop to these cowardly killing cops.   :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on September 20, 2016, 09:36:22 PM
  When are the American people going to put a stop to killer cops killing unarmed people who have their arms up and are at least 12 feet away.  Today a cop killed another unarmed man with his hands up.   :mad: :mad: :mad: :rant: :rant: :rant:

  The damn cunt killer cop shot the unarmed man who they had just Tazed and the bitch was at least 12 feet away from him.  I say the bitch killer should be tried for murder, out and out assassination.   :rant:  We have to put a stop to these cowardly killing cops.   :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant: :rant:
THIS is why we are having RIOTS. WHY in the HELL can't we LEARN to WAIT for an investigation BEFORE we assume a cop is guilty!!!  Remember Ferguson?  Freddie Gray? Trayvon Martin?
Let's WAIT on the FACTS first maybe?

If a cop is guilty then hang him.  But lets get it right first before we "encourage" riots and looting....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 21, 2016, 07:23:32 AM
THIS is why we are having RIOTS. WHY in the HELL can't we LEARN to WAIT for an investigation BEFORE we assume a cop is guilty!!!  Remember Ferguson?  Freddie Gray? Trayvon Martin?
Let's WAIT on the FACTS first maybe?

If a cop is guilty then hang him.  But lets get it right first before we "encourage" riots and looting....

This may shock you but in this particular circumstance, I agree with you.  The subject did have his hands up for a time but was generally non-compliant and appears to have reached into his vehicle before he was shot.

Having said that, people like you are entirely to blame for the black lives matter movement and you illustrate why by including Trayvon Martin in your diatribe.  Let's review that case, shall we?  George Zimmerman was not a law enforcement officer, ignored a 911 dispatcher's instructions to wait for police, initiated a confrontation with an unarmed teenager and when that person defended himself, shot and killed him.  I don't give a flying fuck what the jury said; it was not a justifiable homicide.  You don't get to shoot someone because you're a ***** and you're losing a fight that you started and then claim self defense.

I also find it interesting that despite your statement about hanging the cop if he's guilty, your ilk is conspicuously quiet whenever an actual unjustifiable shooting occurs.  If you actually supported the prosecution of those crimes, you might have a little more credibility when you discuss these.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on September 21, 2016, 09:27:53 AM

I also find it interesting that despite your statement about hanging the cop if he's guilty, your ilk is conspicuously quiet whenever an actual unjustifiable shooting occurs.  If you actually supported the prosecution of those crimes, you might have a little more credibility when you discuss these.
Show me where I was silent or stood up for a guilty cop....quit with the 'YOUR ILK' crap.  Many of the so-called "ilk"are republicans against Trump...I'm through with the old GOP...the Bushes, Romney and McCains can go fly a kite.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 21, 2016, 10:36:53 AM
Show me where I was silent or stood up for a guilty cop....quit with the 'YOUR ILK' crap.

By definition, no one can show you where you were silent.

QuoteI'm through with the old GOP...the Bushes, Romney and McCains can go fly a kite.

Good thing because your party is dead.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

I know but there are some interesting helocopter shots that don't quite match what the media is saying plus a quite lengthy list of his run ins with the law. There are stills and a Youtube video.
http://conservativetribune.com/truth-crutcher-bad-for-media/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=PostBottomSharingButtons&utm_content=2016-09-21&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
BREAKING: Truth About Terence Crutcher Comes Out... It's BAD for the Media


Terence Crutcher was shot and killed on Sept. 16 in an officer-involved shooting in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Since then, the media have tried to push a false narrative that Crutcher had his hands up when he was shot — but video evidence, as it often does in these cases, disproved the media's theory.

There's also more information that the mainstream media conveniently left out.

Crutcher had a hefty criminal record before he was shot. In fact, he had just been released in May after nine years in prison for drug trafficking, WZ reported.


1996 Shooting with intent to kill — Dismissed
2001 Petit larceny — Conviction
2004 Driving while suspended — Conviction
2005 Driving while suspended, resisting officer — Conviction
2006 Driving while suspended — Conviction
Driving with open container — Dismissed
2006 Trafficking in illegal drugs — Conviction. (He was also charged in that incident with assault on a police officer and resisting, but that was dismissed.)
2011 Public intoxication (while in prison for drug trafficking) — Conviction
2012 Public intoxication — Conviction
Obstructing an officer — Conviction
2013 DUI — Conviction
Resisting officer — Conviction
Open Container — Conviction
Failure to wear seatbelt — Conviction
Speeding — Conviction

But even all of that was not all.


Take a look at the numerous open warrants for Crutcher. These Aug. 30 warrants were active at the time of his death, and as you can see in the graphic below, they included things like DUI, resisting, drug trafficking and public intoxication.

crutcheropenwarrants

The media are actively pushing the narrative that Crutcher had his hands up and that the police shot him anyway.

We've heard this lie peddled by the media before, in the Michael Brown case, and clearly the obtuse media didn't learn a thing.

BREAKING: Police Find Something a Lot Scarier Than a Gun in Terence Crutcher's Car

Now, you watch that video and listen to the commentary. Did it look to you like Crutcher was following commands? You can hear an officer say that Crutcher was "still walking" and that he wasn't "following commands." Another officer said that he "could be on something."

As you can see, Crutcher was not shot with his hands up. He was clearly flouting officer orders, and at the time of his shooting he lowered his right hand toward his waistband.

Oh, and by the way, the media have run with the story that Crutcher was unarmed, but didn't seem too interested in the PCP that was found in his car and that the Tulsa Police Department officer who shot Crutcher, Betty Shelby, was trained to spot PCP abuse, according to Bearing Arms.

In any of these cases, the legal system should be given time to do its job, but the media have decided to run false narratives that fit their agenda without all the facts and, in some cases, despite the facts.

As you can see above, there's clearly more to the story.

Please share this on Facebook and Twitter if you agree that the mainstream media use cases like this to bolster their divisive and dangerous agenda against law enforcement.

What's your take on the Crutcher case and the mainstream media's attempt to push a false narrative? Scroll down to comment below!
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Locutus

The Tulsa officer has been charged with manslaughter in the first degree. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

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The Troll


me

Click the link, scroll down and look at the still shots taken from the helocopter.



Quote from: me on September 21, 2016, 08:59:34 PM
I know but there are some interesting helocopter shots that don't quite match what the media is saying plus a quite lengthy list of his run ins with the law. There are stills and a Youtube video.
http://conservativetribune.com/truth-crutcher-bad-for-media/?utm_source=Facebook&utm_medium=PostBottomSharingButtons&utm_content=2016-09-21&utm_campaign=websitesharingbuttons
BREAKING: Truth About Terence Crutcher Comes Out... It's BAD for the Media


Terence Crutcher was shot and killed on Sept. 16 in an officer-involved shooting in Tulsa, Oklahoma. Since then, the media have tried to push a false narrative that Crutcher had his hands up when he was shot — but video evidence, as it often does in these cases, disproved the media's theory.

There's also more information that the mainstream media conveniently left out.

Crutcher had a hefty criminal record before he was shot. In fact, he had just been released in May after nine years in prison for drug trafficking, WZ reported.


1996 Shooting with intent to kill — Dismissed
2001 Petit larceny — Conviction
2004 Driving while suspended — Conviction
2005 Driving while suspended, resisting officer — Conviction
2006 Driving while suspended — Conviction
Driving with open container — Dismissed
2006 Trafficking in illegal drugs — Conviction. (He was also charged in that incident with assault on a police officer and resisting, but that was dismissed.)
2011 Public intoxication (while in prison for drug trafficking) — Conviction
2012 Public intoxication — Conviction
Obstructing an officer — Conviction
2013 DUI — Conviction
Resisting officer — Conviction
Open Container — Conviction
Failure to wear seatbelt — Conviction
Speeding — Conviction

But even all of that was not all.


Take a look at the numerous open warrants for Crutcher. These Aug. 30 warrants were active at the time of his death, and as you can see in the graphic below, they included things like DUI, resisting, drug trafficking and public intoxication.

crutcheropenwarrants

The media are actively pushing the narrative that Crutcher had his hands up and that the police shot him anyway.

We've heard this lie peddled by the media before, in the Michael Brown case, and clearly the obtuse media didn't learn a thing.

BREAKING: Police Find Something a Lot Scarier Than a Gun in Terence Crutcher's Car

Now, you watch that video and listen to the commentary. Did it look to you like Crutcher was following commands? You can hear an officer say that Crutcher was "still walking" and that he wasn't "following commands." Another officer said that he "could be on something."

As you can see, Crutcher was not shot with his hands up. He was clearly flouting officer orders, and at the time of his shooting he lowered his right hand toward his waistband.

Oh, and by the way, the media have run with the story that Crutcher was unarmed, but didn't seem too interested in the PCP that was found in his car and that the Tulsa Police Department officer who shot Crutcher, Betty Shelby, was trained to spot PCP abuse, according to Bearing Arms.

In any of these cases, the legal system should be given time to do its job, but the media have decided to run false narratives that fit their agenda without all the facts and, in some cases, despite the facts.

As you can see above, there's clearly more to the story.

Please share this on Facebook and Twitter if you agree that the mainstream media use cases like this to bolster their divisive and dangerous agenda against law enforcement.

What's your take on the Crutcher case and the mainstream media's attempt to push a false narrative? Scroll down to comment below!
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Quote from: Locutus on September 22, 2016, 05:54:46 PM
The Tulsa officer has been charged with manslaughter in the first degree.

Politics; I doubt they'll get a conviction.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Exterminator on September 23, 2016, 07:43:44 AM
Politics; I doubt they'll get a conviction.


  You're probably right.  There is always a cop lover :police: who believes they have the right to kill anyone they want too. :yes: It only takes one of the stupid people to cause a mistrial and that is what the cop loving :police: prosecutor wants.   :mad: :rant:

Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on September 21, 2016, 07:23:32 AM
THIS is why we are having RIOTS. WHY in the HELL can't we LEARN to WAIT for an investigation BEFORE we assume a cop is guilty!!!  Remember Ferguson?  Freddie Gray? Trayvon Martin?
Let's WAIT on the FACTS first maybe?

If a cop is guilty then hang him.  But lets get it right first before we "encourage" riots and looting....

It's amazing that you can't see your inherent racism.  You act as if minorities don't have the right in this country to demand to be treated as equals, AND you act as if they already have more than they deserve.

A large part of the country is over policing which tends to be racist and far too quick and easy to take a life and make victims of minorities and for which nothing appears to be done about it.

When you refuse to treat the rights of minorities the same as the rights of the majority, you push them into options outside of the 'law'...

...it's been the same throughout the history of this country and apparently the only way minorities can get any progress.

BTW, you are completely wrong in your 'opinions' on each of your examples and only provide continued proof of your inherent bigotry and racism.
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me

Quote from: Y on October 06, 2016, 07:00:32 PM
It's amazing that you can't see your inherent racism.  You act as if minorities don't have the right in this country to demand to be treated as equals, AND you act as if they already have more than they deserve.

A large part of the country is over policing which tends to be racist and far too quick and easy to take a life and make victims of minorities and for which nothing appears to be done about it.

When you refuse to treat the rights of minorities the same as the rights of the majority, you push them into options outside of the 'law'...

...it's been the same throughout the history of this country and apparently the only way minorities can get any progress.

BTW, you are completely wrong in your 'opinions' on each of your examples and only provide continued proof of your inherent bigotry and racism.
Minorities have a right to be treated as equals but what they don't have a right to is being treated special and riot if they are doing it without knowing the circumstances of a particular incident. There is a difference between a demonstration and rioting and these BLM people are dangerous any way you look at it.
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