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Food Prices and Crappy Waterlogged Meat

Started by Exterminator, September 14, 2016, 10:14:31 AM

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Exterminator

Quote from: AbbyTC on September 22, 2016, 10:45:24 PM
Is your memory that short term or are you just that stupid?

I'm guessing this is a rhetorical question?   :biggrin:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: me on September 23, 2016, 12:02:31 AM
Evidentely all Libs are nasty natured.

No, it's just annoying to deal with such abject stupidity.  You have supplied evidence that directly contradicts your original claim and still want to argue that it wasn't bullshit.  Are you senile?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Purplelady1040


me

Quote from: AbbyTC on September 23, 2016, 12:56:49 AM
What does Wal-Mart have to do with it? No one ever mentioned Wal-mart.   All libs are nasty natured?  You repeat the same thing over and over after what you have said has been proven false. I'm calling it as I see it.  You bring it on yourself.   
I don't shop at Wal-Mart so if they're the ones that do it I wouldn't have seen it and I figured that would be one you would shop at.  Next time you go to the grocery take a pic of the meat case where they have the ingredients or added water weight on the tag in the meat case and tell me what store you're at.  Do you think they list every ingredient in bologna or hot dogs on the label? If they did you wouldn't eat them.
Trump 2020

Locutus

Jeezus 'effing Christ!  How many times does it need to be spelled out?   :wall:  Here's a summary of what the following federal regulations state:

21 CFR 101.4(a); 21 CFR 101.4(c); Compliance Policy Guide 555.875

"Water must be identified in the list of ingredients and listed in its
descending order of predominance by weight. If all water added during
processing is subsequently removed by baking or some other means during
processing, water need not be declared as an ingredient. "



Translation:  If there's water in it, it has to be on the label.  :rolleyes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Here's the whole damn FDA guidance from whence the above came in case you want to read the entire 132 page document.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Exterminator

Quote from: me on September 23, 2016, 11:18:55 AM
Do you think they list every ingredient in bologna or hot dogs on the label?

Yes, they do.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Locutus on September 23, 2016, 11:49:58 AM
Here's the whole damn FDA guidance from whence the above came in case you want to read the entire 132 page document.

http://www.fda.gov/downloads/Food/GuidanceRegulation/UCM265446.pdf

  Locutus, just think she's one of these Republicans that want to do away with big government and all of it agencies.  For one, the FDA among all of the others.   :yes:  Call her what she is, one big blowhard dumbass.   :yes:  :haha:

Locutus

Quote from: The Troll on September 23, 2016, 12:35:15 PM
  Locutus, just think she's one of these Republicans that want to do away with big government and all of it agencies.  For one, the FDA among all of the others.   :yes:  Call her what she is, one big blowhard dumbass.   :yes:  :haha:

They're all for less government up to and until it benefits them in some way.  :wink:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on September 23, 2016, 12:32:17 PM
Yes, they do.

Yes, they do, and if she would read the guidance above, she would see that too.   :wall:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on September 23, 2016, 11:48:28 AM
Jeezus 'effing Christ!  How many times does it need to be spelled out?   :wall:  Here's a summary of what the following federal regulations state:

21 CFR 101.4(a); 21 CFR 101.4(c); Compliance Policy Guide 555.875

"Water must be identified in the list of ingredients and listed in its
descending order of predominance by weight. If all water added during
processing is subsequently removed by baking or some other means during
processing, water need not be declared as an ingredient. "[/i
Translation:  If there's water in it, it has to be on the label.  :rolleyes:

Hum, I wrote a reply but for some reason it didn't take. Oh well, if you'd all go back and read my posts you'd see where I never denied it was listed on the label but I did say they don't have to list how much.

I never denied it was on the label but how much doesn't have to be there and if there is no label, meat in the meat case, you have nothing to read. Did no one see where it suggested asking for the original package if the meat had been repackaged at the store? How many stores do you know that keep the original packaging around for people to see? I'm still waiting on a pic of ingredients on the tag in the meat case that tells the price and what store does that.
Trump 2020

me

Trump 2020

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

AbbyTC

Quote from: Exterminator on September 23, 2016, 07:41:16 AM
No, it's just annoying to deal with such abject stupidity.  You have supplied evidence that directly contradicts your original claim and still want to argue that it wasn't bullshit.  Are you senile?

As you asked me, is this a rhetorical question?   ;D
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

AbbyTC

Quote from: me on September 23, 2016, 03:53:28 PM
Hum, I wrote a reply but for some reason it didn't take. Oh well, if you'd all go back and read my posts you'd see where I never denied it was listed on the label but I did say they don't have to list how much.

I never denied it was on the label but how much doesn't have to be there and if there is no label, meat in the meat case, you have nothing to read. Did no one see where it suggested asking for the original package if the meat had been repackaged at the store? How many stores do you know that keep the original packaging around for people to see? I'm still waiting on a pic of ingredients on the tag in the meat case that tells the price and what store does that.

You really don't read what's posted, do you?  Go back to page 3.  Oh, wait, let me help you.  Pay particular attention to the words that are bolded, italicized, and underlined. 

Quote from: AbbyTC on September 17, 2016, 01:38:30 PM
From the Food Safety and Inspection Service part of the USDA site:         
Enhanced Meat and Poultry Products
Many grocery stores are now offering meat and poultry products that have flavoring solutions added to them. For example, pork chops may be packaged with a solution of water, salt, and sodium phosphate (a solution that can add flavor and moisture to leaner meats). These new products also provide convenience by saving steps in preparation, such as "Teriyaki Beef in Teriyaki Sauce." To prevent confusion, the presence of flavor solutions must be stated on the front of the package.
Enhanced or value-added meat and poultry products are raw products that contain flavor solutions added through marinating, needle injecting, soaking, etc. The presence and amount of the solution will be featured as part of the product name, for example, "Chicken Thighs Flavored with up to 10% of a Solution" or "Beef Steak Marinated with 6% of a Flavor Solution." The ingredients of the flavor solution must be prominently identified on the label. Typically, this information will be on the principal display panel or the information panel.
The labeling term "marinated" can only be used with specific amounts of solution. "Marinated" meats can contain no more than 10% solution; boneless poultry, no more than 8% solution; and bone-in poultry, no more than 3% solution.
In the case of enhanced products, the solutions that are added to the meat or poultry, or into which the meat or poultry are placed for flavoring, seasoning, and tenderizing, are intended to be part of the product. The solutions are required by regulations and policies to be identified as part of the product names of the enhanced products, and whether the solution is incorporated into the product or is free- flowing, it is considered part of the product.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.