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Food Prices and Crappy Waterlogged Meat

Started by Exterminator, September 14, 2016, 10:14:31 AM

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AbbyTC

Quote from: me on September 17, 2016, 01:45:40 AM
NOW READ REAL SLOW SO YOU UNDERSTAND. THEY ARE PUTTING MORE LIQUID AND LESS CONTENT IN THE CANS NOW FOR THE SAME OR HIGHER PRICE, THEY ARE ALSO ADDING MORE WATER TO THE MEAT AND SOME STORES WHO CUT THEIR OWN MEAT ADD EVEN MORE. Got that?

I never disputed the putting of more liquid in the cans.  You stated that
Quote from: me on September 16, 2016, 05:32:55 PM
Are you telling me you have in the past gotten canned veggies with no liquid?
so I explained to you that liquid is NEEDED in canned goods.  Maybe you should be reading a bit more slowly so you can understand what was written. 

If they are adding more water to meat, it must be on the label and you will know it (that is if you are smart enough to read labels).  Like I said before, you may need to change stores/brands and find ones that don't add all that liquid.  My grocery store only does this certain meats (I've seen it on the labels for ham, but never hamburger like you claimed, never even heard of water being added to hamburger) and I READ THE LABELS to find out.  It really is that simple. 
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

AbbyTC

From the Food Safety and Inspection Service part of the USDA site:          Ground Beef and Food Safety  Beef fat may be added to "hamburger," but not "ground beef." A maximum of 30% fat is allowed in either hamburger or ground beef. Both hamburger and ground beef can have seasonings, but no water, phosphates, extenders, or binders added. The labeling of meat food products must comply with the Federal Meat Inspection Act (FMIA) and the meat inspection regulations and labeling policies.

Guess this really makes your story of added water to hamburger full of shit.  Did you read the above slowly?  Make sure you do!  And the next part, too. 


Enhanced Meat and Poultry Products
Many grocery stores are now offering meat and poultry products that have flavoring solutions added to them. For example, pork chops may be packaged with a solution of water, salt, and sodium phosphate (a solution that can add flavor and moisture to leaner meats). These new products also provide convenience by saving steps in preparation, such as "Teriyaki Beef in Teriyaki Sauce." To prevent confusion, the presence of flavor solutions must be stated on the front of the package.
Enhanced or value-added meat and poultry products are raw products that contain flavor solutions added through marinating, needle injecting, soaking, etc. The presence and amount of the solution will be featured as part of the product name, for example, "Chicken Thighs Flavored with up to 10% of a Solution" or "Beef Steak Marinated with 6% of a Flavor Solution." The ingredients of the flavor solution must be prominently identified on the label. Typically, this information will be on the principal display panel or the information panel.
The labeling term "marinated" can only be used with specific amounts of solution. "Marinated" meats can contain no more than 10% solution; boneless poultry, no more than 8% solution; and bone-in poultry, no more than 3% solution.
In the case of enhanced products, the solutions that are added to the meat or poultry, or into which the meat or poultry are placed for flavoring, seasoning, and tenderizing, are intended to be part of the product. The solutions are required by regulations and policies to be identified as part of the product names of the enhanced products, and whether the solution is incorporated into the product or is free- flowing, it is considered part of the product.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

me

Quote from: AbbyTC on September 17, 2016, 01:15:35 PM
I never disputed the putting of more liquid in the cans.  You stated that    so I explained to you that liquid is NEEDED in canned goods.  Maybe you should be reading a bit more slowly so you can understand what was written. 

If they are adding more water to meat, it must be on the label and you will know it (that is if you are smart enough to read labels).  Like I said before, you may need to change stores/brands and find ones that don't add all that liquid.  My grocery store only does this certain meats (I've seen it on the labels for ham, but never hamburger like you claimed, never even heard of water being added to hamburger) and I READ THE LABELS to find out.  It really is that simple.
After the meat arrives at the store for cutting, those that cut and grind their own meat, they can add more solution to the meat before cutting or grinding and don't have to list it if they sell it in a case unpackaged so you never see the lable. The ones that do package it after grinding or cutting list it but not the amount because they use their own lables.
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Purplelady1040

Quote from: me on September 17, 2016, 01:51:57 PM
After the meat arrives at the store for cutting, those that cut and grind their own meat, they can add more solution to the meat before cutting or grinding and don't have to list it if they sell it in a case unpackaged so you never see the lable. The ones that do package it after grinding or cutting list it but not the amount because they use their own lables.
Bullshit again

AbbyTC

Quote from: me on September 17, 2016, 01:51:57 PM
After the meat arrives at the store for cutting, those that cut and grind their own meat, they can add more solution to the meat before cutting or grinding and don't have to list it if they sell it in a case unpackaged so you never see the lable. The ones that do package it after grinding or cutting list it but not the amount because they use their own lables.

Do you read?  Really?  Do you read what is put in front of you?  I already addressed the ground beef issue (grinding).  IT IS ILLEGAL TO ADD WATER TO GROUND BEEF.  If the meat is unpackaged like in a butcher shop case in the grocery store, then you ASK ABOUT IT.  Seriously, it is that simple.  Read and use your voice.  You are your own advocate.
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

me

Quote from: AbbyTC on September 17, 2016, 02:26:47 PM
Do you read?  Really?  Do you read what is put in front of you?  I already addressed the ground beef issue (grinding).  IT IS ILLEGAL TO ADD WATER TO GROUND BEEF.  If the meat is unpackaged like in a butcher shop case in the grocery store, then you ASK ABOUT IT.  Seriously, it is that simple.  Read and use your voice.  You are your own advocate.
Ya know, no matter what I say you're gonna argue about it. You, PL, and Troll are all alike.
Trump 2020

AbbyTC

Quote from: me on September 17, 2016, 03:16:14 PM
Ya know, no matter what I say you're gonna argue about it. You, PL, and Troll are all alike.

I'm not arguing only pointing out facts.  If you are going to speak out of your ass, you're going to get called on it. 
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Locutus

Quote from: me on September 17, 2016, 03:16:14 PM
Ya know, no matter what I say you're gonna argue about it. You, PL, and Troll are all alike.

I have to disagree.  Abby isn't the Queen of Anecdotes.  :sneaky: 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

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AbbyTC

Me, I was at the grocery store today and checked out the meat in the butcher case.  They had the ingredients listed on a card beside the price, if needed.  Guess my grocery store is advanced compared to where you go to. 
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Locutus

Most, if not all, of that stuff is regulated.  Whatever is there where you are should be the same thing that's there wherever she is. 
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Purplelady1040

Quote from: AbbyTC on September 17, 2016, 07:55:16 PM
Me, I was at the grocery store today and checked out the meat in the butcher case.  They had the ingredients listed on a card beside the price, if needed.  Guess my grocery store is advanced compared to where you go to.
Did it have water listed in the meats? :)

AbbyTC

In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Purplelady1040


The Troll

Quote from: Purplelady1040 on September 17, 2016, 08:14:41 PM
Couldn't resist on that one.


   :me: If it is true that this business is putting water into their meat, buy some and call the state board of health and you will really put the hurt on this business.  :yes: :yes:  Now let's see you do this and prove what you say for a change.  :doh:

Purplelady1040

Quote from: The Troll on September 18, 2016, 03:00:49 PM



   :me: If it is true that this business is putting water into their meat, buy some and call the state board of health and you will really put the hurt on this business.  :yes: :yes:  Now let's see you do this and prove what you say for a change.  :doh:
I didn't see your me at first. I thought you meant I should call and make the claim. Lol