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Why don't politicians actually do something about gun deaths?

Started by DC3Cowboy, July 21, 2016, 09:52:32 AM

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Quote from: Locutus on August 01, 2016, 04:19:54 PM
That's not remotely true either, and is exactly why Exterminator has said what he's said about you.
Tell me then how can theory stand as fact when it can't be proved one way or the other and will have different outcomes depending on the info used to arrive at the theory? The person trying to prove a point will always use info supporting what they are trying to convey and tend to ignore things which disagree with it, or maybe use just enough to come up with a percentage, favoring them of course.
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 01, 2016, 02:21:53 PM
THAT is why. I'm out too!

When your sore meat curtains heal and you decide to come back, you will be required to fill out this form.   :biggrin:

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

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All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

The Troll



Any one want to bet that chicken Henry :chick: wouldn't fill it out even if you paid him. :hellur: :hellur: :hellur: :hellur: :hellur: :hellur: :hellur:

AbbyTC

In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Locutus

One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on August 03, 2016, 12:28:46 AM
Where's DC3Cowboy?  His tongue is tied.  ;D
Or he has better things to do. Hum, that would be a good song title.....  :biggrin: Maybe I've got better things to do. I'll have to give that some thought.... :yes:
Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: me on August 03, 2016, 12:30:20 AM
Or he has better things to do. Hum, that would be a good song title.....  :biggrin: Maybe I've got better things to do. I'll have to give that some thought.... :yes:

He's reading the thread right now.  Look at the top.  ;D
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

The Troll

Quote from: Locutus on August 03, 2016, 12:28:46 AM
Where's DC3Cowboy?  His tongue is tied.  ;D

  Oh he's probably out getting drunk, drinking koolaid :koolaid:  He's probably at the same Republican bar as our right wing christian, Henry. 

Y

Quote from: DC3Cowboy on July 29, 2016, 12:58:49 PM
It's now obvious that if you're looking for a civil discussion with adults, you won't find it here. Sneers, jeers, juvenile 'cowgirl' nic-twisting, and the obvious progressive-liberal circle-jerk has convinced me, so have a great time and goodbye.

Do you need a 'whaaaaaaaambulance!'?

You're simply a crybaby who, when starting out posting a bunch of baiting, foolish, crap, got shown - even before I showed up - the absolute trolling and stupidity you spewed, whines around here lying about what you posted, refusing to own up to your foolishness, and going behind the scenes fermenting trouble with at least one long time poster.

'Cowgirl' is apt, but whining weasel is more apropo.

Why don't you accept it when you're on the losing side of an argument and change your 'opinions' as well as forming more cogent arguments able to withstand dissection and analysis. 

Whydon'tcha'!
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 01, 2016, 12:26:04 PM
THIS is what pisses me off!!!   :rant:
Instead of discussing a very good topic with Cowboy........you sandbagged, until Y came and threw insults.

NO wonder nobody sticks around here that has opposing opinions. 

Even EX, could only muster up some insults, instead of TRYING to have a conversation.

.........nobody here is going to change anybody's mind.

As I pointed out to that 'Whiny Weasel', people had already shown the lack of thoughtfulness and cogency behind that crap he posted long before I showed up to waste more time than I should have on that tripe.

The reason I keep seeing for no change in opinions is that people like you simply do not want to give up your biases and prejudices in the face of incontrovertible evidence, fact, and logic. 

Therefore, we keep remaining at an impasse.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 01, 2016, 02:21:53 PM
BULLSHIT!  He merely was starting a conversation.  You didn't do shit until Y came to your rescue.  I guess people either have to think like you or they are not welcome here.....

You always claim you wanted more here.....THAT is why. I'm out too!

Jeezus-peezus, Hank!

He was FAR from 'merely...starting a conversation', and you know it.  People here had already pointed it out before I came on the scene.

Who 'unwelcomed' him or told him to leave???  No one. 

People did exactly what forums do, and that's argue for/against propositions.

He couldn't argue for his, and several people promoted cogent arguments against.

His widdle feelings got hurt - most likely because he, like you, are used to all that glad hand circle jerking that goes on at the Hub - and cried both here and to you, and you were manipulated into sticking up for your Hub 'bud' instead of taking a good close look at his original post and his posts from there on.

If he had any ballz and the gumption of the moniker 'Cowboy' he uses, he'd pick himself up, dust himself off, and not make the same mistakes again when dealing with folks that are guided by evidence, facts, and logic...

...otherwise, 'Cowgirl' it is.   :biggrin:
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Y

Quote from: me on August 01, 2016, 04:31:45 PM
Tell me then how can theory stand as fact when it can't be proved one way or the other and will have different outcomes depending on the info used to arrive at the theory? The person trying to prove a point will always use info supporting what they are trying to convey and tend to ignore things which disagree with it, or maybe use just enough to come up with a percentage, favoring them of course.

How many time have we explained to you and your ilk your constant mixed up usage of the term theory?

Pay attention!:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/theory


theory
[thee-uh-ree, theer-ee]

noun, plural theories.

1. a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity.

Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine.

2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

Synonyms: idea, notion hypothesis, postulate.

Antonyms: practice, verification, corroboration, substantiation.



Not everyone only looks at, or uses, information preferential to their premise etc..  There are many of us who analyze by looking at all sides and using facts, evidence, and logic to arrive at a reasonable conclusion that passes such scrutiny.

It appears that your ilk are the ones who can't, or won't, put away your prejudices and biases in order to do that.
©  Whamma-Jamma - all rights reserved

Law of Logical Argument - Anything is possible if you don't know what you are talking about.  ;)

"You've probably noticed that opinion pollsters go out of their way to include as many morons as possible in surveys ... I think it's dangerous to inform morons about what their fellow morons are thinking. It only reinforces their opinions. And the one thing worse than a moron with an opinion is lots of them." -- Scott Adams

In other words: Never underestimate the power of stupid people in large groups.  ;)

"It is difficult to get a man to understand something when his salary depends upon his not understanding it." -- Upton Sinclair

"Hitler is gone, but if the majority of our fellow citizens are more susceptible to the slogans of fear and race hatred than to those of peaceful accommodation and mutual respect among human beings, our political liberties remain at the mercy of any eloquent and unscrupulous demagogue." -- S. I. Hayakawa

Exterminator

Quote from: Y on August 31, 2016, 06:40:27 PM
How many time have we explained to you and your ilk your constant mixed up usage of the term theory?

Pay attention!:

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/theory


theory
[thee-uh-ree, theer-ee]

noun, plural theories.

1. a coherent group of tested general propositions, commonly regarded as correct, that can be used as principles of explanation and prediction for a class of phenomena: Einstein's theory of relativity.

Synonyms: principle, law, doctrine.

2. a proposed explanation whose status is still conjectural and subject to experimentation, in contrast to well-established propositions that are regarded as reporting matters of actual fact.

Synonyms: idea, notion hypothesis, postulate.

Antonyms: practice, verification, corroboration, substantiation.



Not everyone only looks at, or uses, information preferential to their premise etc..  There are many of us who analyze by looking at all sides and using facts, evidence, and logic to arrive at a reasonable conclusion that passes such scrutiny.

It appears that your ilk are the ones who can't, or won't, put away your prejudices and biases in order to do that.

Logical conjecture based on overwhelming observable evidence.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.