Why don't politicians actually do something about gun deaths?

[Henry Hawk]

Given the content of their first post, is this a friend of yours?   

It is indeed, a very good friend of mine....

[Locutus]

It is indeed, a very good friend of mine....

Thought it might be.  

I hope he likes it here and decides to stick around for awhile. 

[Henry Hawk]

Hank, we've been down this road before numerous times.  You can't glean the meaning of any quote, regardless of who it's from, without seeing it in context.  Your hero network "Fox News" does this kind of crap all the time. 

C'mon, Locutus...you really don't need the entire transcript to understand that Diane Feinstein meant exactly what she said with quotes like:

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, I would have done it."

Anyway, let's not get too side tracked from Cowboys point...

[Locutus]

C'mon, Locutus...you really don't need the entire transcript to understand that Diane Feinstein meant exactly what she said with quotes like:

"If I could have gotten 51 votes in the Senate of the United States for an outright ban, picking up every one of them, Mr. and Mrs. America, turn them all in, I would have done it."

Anyway, let's not get too side tracked from Cowboys point...

I haven't had a chance to research these quotes just yet, but I'd be willing to wager at least some of them are from debates/discussion regarding the federal assault weapons ban that was in effect from 1994-2004.  Feinstein was a sponsor of that legislation if you recall.  If they are, then providing these quotes to support the original assertion that they want "to disarm, we the people" is simply not factual.   

[Exterminator]

I haven't had a chance to research these quotes just yet, but I'd be willing to wager at least some of them are from debates/discussion regarding the federal assault weapons ban that was in effect from 1994-2004.  Feinstein was a sponsor of that legislation if you recall.  If they are, then providing these quotes to support the original assertion that they want "to disarm, we the people" is simply not factual.

Indeed they are and every president dating back to at least Reagan has made similar statements regarding assault weapons.

[Exterminator]

It is indeed, a very good friend of mine....

Shocking.   

[Henry Hawk]

Indeed they are and every president dating back to at least Reagan has made similar statements regarding assault weapons.

Oh, then that's it?  You just say, indeed they are?  You are "assuming" they are referring to assault weapons, but you don't know that.

Maybe you are right?  These quotes seem pretty solid.



    If it was up to me, no one but law enforcement officers would own handguns ....
    Richard Daley (Chicago Mayor); Federal gun legislation press conference in Washington, D.C., 1998-11-13

He didn't say assault weapons........he said HANDGUNS....

We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans to own handguns and rifles that we are unable to think clearly about reality.
  Bill Clinton (US President); press conference in Piscataway, New Jersey; USA Today, p. 2A, 1993-03-01

 

[Henry Hawk]

Indeed they are and every president dating back to at least Reagan has made similar statements regarding assault weapons.

You know I don't believe in people owning guns, only the police and military. And I'm going to do everything I can to disarm this state.

Michael Dukakis

in conversation with Mike Yacino, MA Gun Owner's Action League, and Roy Innis, CORE

Massachusetts Governor

1986-06-16

That is not out of context...he is pretty clear on his words.

[Locutus]

You know I don't believe in people owning guns, only the police and military. And I'm going to do everything I can to disarm this state.

Michael Dukakis

in conversation with Mike Yacino, MA Gun Owner's Action League, and Roy Innis, CORE

Massachusetts Governor

1986-06-16

That is not out of context...he is pretty clear on his words.

Any sort of state ban on the ownership of firearms in general isn't going to pass constitutional muster, and you know that. 

That's also what I don't get about all of you 'thinkers.'  As long as the Constitution is in place, your rights are secure.  What in the hell are you all worried about?  Everyone was screaming, "Obama is going to take our guns!" as soon as he was elected, yet nothing along those lines ever occurred. 

[Henry Hawk]

Here is a doosy!!

"We must be able to arrest people before they commit crimes. By registering guns and knowing who has them we can do that. If they have guns they are pretty likely to commit a crime."
Vermont State Senator Mary Ann Carlson

This lib nut, wants to arrest people BEFORE they commit crimes!!!! That is very telling about her and her intent!  She is even to the point, that declaring if you HAVE a gun, you are likely to be a criminal!!! 

[Henry Hawk]

Any sort of state ban on the ownership of firearms in general isn't going to pass constitutional muster, and you know that. 

But with nutjobs like I just listed, who is in our congress, TRYING to pass laws.......well, that is why we have a NRA.  That is why there is concern.

[Locutus]

But with nutjobs like I just listed, who is in our congress, TRYING to pass laws.......well, that is why we have a NRA.  That is why there is concern.

There shouldn't be.  The SCOTUS has repeatedly affirmed the right to keep and bear arms.

[DC3Cowboy]

And still no one wants to address the OP.

Progressive liberal politicians want all sorts of new regulations, including so-called 'universal background checks', which means that if you give your brother a gun, you must first do a background check. Obviously no one would know if you did that, so the next step would be universal gun registration. Neither of course would prevent any of the suicide deaths or the gang murders so why do it, unless confiscation is the true goal?

If you won't (can't?) address the OP, I'll understand, but I will not respond to deflections, diversions, or quibbling over quote sources. They're in the link I provided.

You're not getting a virgin.

[DC3Cowboy]

There shouldn't be.  The SCOTUS has repeatedly affirmed the right to keep and bear arms.

Both Heller and McDonald were 5-4. If the Court now becomes 5-4 liberal, they'll reverse both decisions.  No doubt about that at all.

[The Troll]

"O-Boy, we got an NRA/Republican who want to blame the left wing and the Democrats for all of this gun violence."

Which of course is not at all what I said, so I guess you have no real rebuttal.

  We all know that there are misguided people who want to take out guns.     I believe in owning guns and I own a small collection.     We know that if they take our guns, which they won't.    The only people who will have guns are the cops and the criminals.     We have a police state now and we have criminal gangs and both are both killers.   

  But will the Republican controlled House of Representatives do anything about it?  No!      Hell, they won't even pass a bill to keep people on the no fly list from buying a gun or a person on the terrorist list from buying guns.     

  Tell me what your plan is, everybody wants to complain, but no one has a plan.