Brexit and ramifications

[Locutus]

I wish people would come down off that racism crap it's getting real old.

But don't let the facts get in the way of your narrow view of things. 

(CNN)Police in Manchester, England, arrested two young men and a teenager in connection with an apparent hate incident on a tram Tuesday.

Video of the incident, which shows several men taunting a male commuter who appears to be of mixed race, quickly drew outrage after being posted online.
The incident occurred about 7.40 a.m. local time. The video shows the victim in a heated exchange with the suspects, who call him an "immigrant" and tell him to "get back to Africa." Several of the suspects appear to be holding bottles of beer, and at one point a suspect tries to flick some of it on the victim.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/europe/manchester-uk-hate-crime-arrests-irpt/index.html

[Locutus]

^^ No racism there, right 'me'?

That racism crap is getting really old.  </sarcasm>

[Locutus]

And Locutus....I think that blue wall of yours is coming down and a new wall is going up....

Highly unlikely. 

Is one of those same polls you relied on last time telling you that? 

[Palehorse]

. . .and a new wall is going up....

A wall of separation between the haves and have-nots. A wall that will separate the wealthy from the poor and provide control to the wealthy.

[Henry Hawk]

A wall of separation between the haves and have-nots. A wall that will separate the wealthy from the poor and provide control to the wealthy.

You are basing this on WHAT???

There is nothing that Trump is saying or indicating that he is going to do anything but help everyone.  Give me an example of how he is going to separate the wealthy from the poor and provide control to the wealthy.

Tell me what Hillary is planning doing that is going to help...

I am not being a wise ass....I am seriously asking, because I need to know....from my point of view it is obvious.  One of the reasons I come here is because you guys keep me on the straight and narrow on the political world.

I am much more cautious these days before I make statements....

Trump is talking big, Hillary is talking big....that is what they do to win.  Trump's talk is much more convincing to me that HE can do more to help our Country than anybody else in a long time. 
I realize the next POTUS is going to have to get along with congress to get something done.  I believe this to be Trumps STRONG suit.  "The Art of the Deal".  Getting things done....I think he can compromise with democrats, where I don't think Hillary has the capability to compromise with the republicans.

The bottom line is, I am willing to trust Trump.  Our alternative is to trust a politician.  Records a pretty clear on their "trustworthiness". 

I'm sick of the GOP.  I'm sick of our current congress.  I'm sick of Washington DC.

Trump has the ability to shake up the political world....continuing our current path spells doom.

[me]

 And this has what to do with the US and calling anyone who disagrees with the POTUS racist or calling conservatives racist?

^^ No racism there, right 'me'?

That racism crap is getting really old.  </sarcasm>

(CNN)Police in Manchester, England, arrested two young men and a teenager in connection with an apparent hate incident on a tram Tuesday.

Video of the incident, which shows several men taunting a male commuter who appears to be of mixed race, quickly drew outrage after being posted online.
The incident occurred about 7.40 a.m. local time. The video shows the victim in a heated exchange with the suspects, who call him an "immigrant" and tell him to "get back to Africa." Several of the suspects appear to be holding bottles of beer, and at one point a suspect tries to flick some of it on the victim.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/28/europe/manchester-uk-hate-crime-arrests-irpt/index.html

[Palehorse]

You are basing this on WHAT???

. . .

On the last 9 years of a do nothing congress that hates the sitting POTUS; and will hate the next sitting POTUS even more given his strong armed style and approach toward everything within his personal and professional life.

The fact of the matter is we would a be a whole lot better off had congress been able to divorce itself from its personal agendas and actually do the work they were elected to do and are paid to do. But they haven't for nearly a decade now; and I agree things are on the downslide when it comes to the middle-class and likely to get much worse.

Congress has done some things over the last 10 years:

• Stack the deck to favor employers by eliminating pension and retirement plans in favor of 401k plans that are volatile at best.
• Pander to corporate America in the delusional hope that by depressing the wages of the workforce the resulting profits would get them to stay here.
• Continue to support subsidies for mega-conglomerate industries despite their posting of record profit levels, while simultaneously stripping and defunding the social safety nets of this nation at a time when they are/were desperately needed by the average American citizens.
• Say no to every single piece of legislation put forth, even when they incorporated their own demands.
• Waste over 7 million dollars on a witch hunt (Benghazi) that uncovered nothing more than the previous SEVEN separate committees did; which were huge gaps within the DOD response plans and unexplained lethargy therein.
• Attempt to rig the SCOTUS by refusing to vet a fully qualified candidate put forth by the POTUS; despite the constitutional and historical validation of his right to do so.

And then there is the SCOTUS itself that seems to have fallen into lockstep with these scoundrels by handing down decisions that empowered and emboldened Corporate America to continue its war on labor and manufacturing in this nation and provided individual, Constitutional Rights to these soulless and faceless entities without requiring them to conduct operations in compliance with those very same rights held by its employees.

One needs only to look at the last 8 years to understand how the next 4 years are going to be. Congress has been corrupted from bottom to top, and now feels IT is the highest power and authority in this nation. No matter who is elected, if s/he is not an individual that will fall into lockstep with the members of congress and continue to ignore the plight of the average citizens of this nation, we are in for more of the very same.

Electing a billionaire businessman will do absolutely nothing but ensure this negative process is magnified and prolonged. 

[Exterminator]

And this has what to do with the US and calling anyone who disagrees with the POTUS racist or calling conservatives racist?

Isn't someone who supports Trump but claims not to be a racist the same as someone who supports ISIS but claims not to be a terrorist?

[The Troll]

A wall of separation between the haves and have-nots. A wall that will separate the wealthy from the poor and provide control to the wealthy.

  There are walls now that separate the poor, middle class and the rich.     Just look at the gated communities that are around.  Eight foot iron fences. some have coils of razor wire on top of them, earth abutments around the communities.  Guards  guard shacks and electric controlled gates that only open to their key pad.     Just try to get in and see these multimillion dollar homes.  To see their million dollar yachts moored at their docks.     We are separated by walls and access to many things that the rich have and what the rich can do.  Just try to get in one of Trump's private golf and country clubs.  You are met at the door by a security guard.      At one time in days past the rich, bankers lived among the people in the village.   Not now, for they think they are better than us and they are afraid of us.    But they seem to forget that in real, real hard times, they have to come out of their cages to get something to eat. 

[Locutus]

And this has what to do with the US and calling anyone who disagrees with the POTUS racist or calling conservatives racist?

Can't you even follow a basic conversation? 

1.  I told you that a big part of the Brexit vote had to do with immigration and racism.  I did that right here:

Some of what's in play there is the same nationalism and racism that you see in Trump supporters here. 

2.  Then, instead of researching and trying to ascertain if my point was valid, you implied that it had nothing to do with racism and immigrants with your post right here:

I wish people would come down off that racism crap it's getting real old.

3.  My post above, to which you responded, was to paint a clear picture for you that racism is a very clear part of what was behind that vote, yet you missed the point entirely.

Maybe next time I'll use a coloring book. 

[Locutus]

Isn't someone who supports Trump but claims not to be a racist the same as someone who supports ISIS but claims not to be a terrorist?

That will go right over her head. 

[The Troll]

Stop watching Fox Troll. Please. . . .

Next thing we know you'll be voting Trump. . . 

  I can't vote for Trump or any other god damn Republican.    But I can't see one good thing about having Muslims in America.       What the fuck are they good for.  They aren't even good for their own people.   

[Henry Hawk]

Electing a billionaire businessman will do absolutely nothing but ensure this negative process is magnified and prolonged. 

AGAIN, I ask....based on WHAT?

Just because he is a billionaire?

Because he is a Businessman?

His ideas that he is suggesting to do, doesn't seem like that will fit into your logic.

Renegotiating our unfair trade agreements with China.  That alone, could make quite a difference.

Tax relief on the Middle Class and taking away the tax loop holes on the wealthy.....This goes directly against your complaint.

Having a strong, effective leader....something we haven't had in a long, long time....

I know I am not going to convince you on anything.  You have your mind made up as do I.

One thing I am so very, very certain of, that Hillary Clinton would be the worst possible person to run our country in the current state it is in.....

[Exterminator]

AGAIN, I ask....based on WHAT?

Just because he is a billionaire?

Because he is a Businessman?

No, because he is claiming he is against the very system that he has been taking advantage of his entire life.

Tax relief on the Middle Class and taking away the tax loop holes on the wealthy.....This goes directly against your complaint.

Again, do you really believe he will take away the very tax loopholes from which he has benefited for so long?  Keep drinking the kool-aid.

One thing I am so very, very certain of, that Hillary Clinton would be the worst possible person to run our country in the current state it is in.....

Based on what?

[Exterminator]

That will go right over her head. 

They'll avoid the obvious like a plague.