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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on August 17, 2017, 11:37:05 AM
As I pointed out to Trump on his Twitter feed, virtually all of these statues and plaques were erected by segregationists democrats and were intended to scare and humiliate people of color, not to celebrate a common experience.  That's the real history.



If we are talking real history.....FIFY  ;)
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 17, 2017, 12:05:15 PM
If we are talking real history.....FIFY  ;)

Yes, they were...until the parties effectively switched sides in the 60's.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 17, 2017, 12:27:20 PM
Nuff said.

The dems used to be the conservative party and the republicans were the progressives.  Same people, they just call themselves something different now than they did back then.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Quote from: Exterminator on August 17, 2017, 12:13:52 PM
Yes, they were...until the parties effectively switched sides in the 60's.
Oh really???? And you were how old then?
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me

Quote from: Exterminator on August 17, 2017, 01:19:09 PM
The dems used to be the conservative party and the republicans were the progressives.  Same people, they just call themselves something different now than they did back then.
You, and others like you, are being played like a fiddle. I know you won't believe any of this but it's exactly what's happening.
https://www.youtube.com/v/bFNOfG7Zbzc
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libby

What happened in Charlottesville has stirred things up a bit here in Northern VA and Maryland but so far no bad stuff that I know of. Yet. Interestingly, Robert E. Lee V lives in the city of Fairfax, and the name is all over the place, including a high school.
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Palehorse

Funny. The Cheeto Party wants to dig up historic facts and use them as a weapon to discredit present day people. But they automagically dismiss their Cheeto in Chief's criminal behaviors and actions; up to and including treason!

That flag won't fly. Those that know the truth are the majority and their ranks are increasing each and every day.  :yes:
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Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

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Henry Hawk

Quote from: me on August 17, 2017, 03:29:24 PM
You, and others like you, are being played like a fiddle. I know you won't believe any of this but it's exactly what's happening.


ME, You are 100% correct!!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on August 18, 2017, 11:45:21 AM
Funny. The Cheeto Party wants to dig up historic facts and use them as a weapon to discredit present day people. But they automagically dismiss their Cheeto in Chief's criminal behaviors and actions; up to and including treason!

That flag won't fly. Those that know the truth are the majority and their ranks are increasing each and every day.  :yes:

I have never, in my life disagreed with you more than now.... NEVER, not one issue in our history.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

me

Quote from: Palehorse on August 18, 2017, 11:45:21 AM
Funny. The Cheeto Party wants to dig up historic facts and use them as a weapon to discredit present day people. But they automagically dismiss their Cheeto in Chief's criminal behaviors and actions; up to and including treason!

That flag won't fly. Those that know the truth are the majority and their ranks are increasing each and every day.  :yes:
What????  Exactly what criminal behaviour and use your own words not those of the media.
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Henry Hawk

CBS did an interview yesterday, they found two black and one white Trump supporter, three people.  The names involved here, correspondent Mark Strassman, the three female supporters for Trump are Janelle Jones, Ellen Diehl and Lucretia......these three women, two black, one white, CBS found them to talk about Trump controversy...I think this represent an enormous population that the "establishment" despises..........it went like this:


STRASSMAN: Has your support for Trump lessened one bit?


HUGHES: Absolutely not.


DIEHL: Not at all.


JONES: No.


STRASSMAN: Not one bit?


JONES: No, I don't look at him as, you know, my pastor or my moral leader. I look at him as the leader as it relates to governmental issues.


DIEHL: We're not looking for somebody charming. We're looking for a man who knows how to turn things around, and he's got a track record of turning things around.


STRASSMAN: When you saw Charlottesville, what did that say about where we are as a country?



DIEHL: It wasn't necessarily a completely black-white issue, but I think that the media is turning it into a black-white issue. It's definitely a left-right issue, but it's left fringe and right fringe.


STRASSMAN: The Confederate statues don't bother you?


HUGHES: No. It's history. I wasn't born back then. You wasn't, either. So why is that affecting us? If anything, we should grow and learn from it just like Martin Luther King said. You don't judge people by the color of their skin. You base that on their character.


STRASSMAN: How do you explain what your support is for a president, given the criticism that he's had on this race issue?


HUGHES: I think for myself, period. Nobody's going to tell me what to think or how to think. I'm not gullible and I'm not blind. It's my decision if I'm going to support someone or not, not go by what other people has to say. And to me, what I've seen, and what I love, I'm not– he's not going to lose my support any time soon.


JONES: I've been a Republican before Donald Trump. I will be a Republican afterwards. I honestly don't think we will see this issue of racial divide addressed until we remove identity politics out of the political process.


STRASSMAN: These Republican women say if a president deserves blame for making racial tensions worse, it's Obama, not Trump for the identity politics they say Democrats have practiced for the last eight years.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

AbbyTC

Quote from: Henry Hawk on August 18, 2017, 03:09:12 PM
CBS did an interview yesterday, they found two black and one white Trump supporter, three people.  The names involved here, correspondent Mark Strassman, the three female supporters for Trump are Janelle Jones, Ellen Diehl and Lucretia......these three women, two black, one white, CBS found them to talk about Trump controversy...I think this represent an enormous population that the "establishment" despises..........it went like this:

STRASSMAN: Has your support for Trump lessened one bit?

HUGHES: Absolutely not.

DIEHL: Not at all.

JONES: No.

STRASSMAN: Not one bit?

JONES: No, I don't look at him as, you know, my pastor or my moral leader. I look at him as the leader as it relates to governmental issues.

DIEHL: We're not looking for somebody charming. We're looking for a man who knows how to turn things around, and he's got a track record of turning things around.

STRASSMAN: When you saw Charlottesville, what did that say about where we are as a country?

DIEHL: It wasn't necessarily a completely black-white issue, but I think that the media is turning it into a black-white issue. It's definitely a left-right issue, but it's left fringe and right fringe.

STRASSMAN: The Confederate statues don't bother you?

HUGHES: No. It's history. I wasn't born back then. You wasn't, either. So why is that affecting us? If anything, we should grow and learn from it just like Martin Luther King said. You don't judge people by the color of their skin. You base that on their character.

STRASSMAN: How do you explain what your support is for a president, given the criticism that he's had on this race issue?

HUGHES: I think for myself, period. Nobody's going to tell me what to think or how to think. I'm not gullible and I'm not blind. It's my decision if I'm going to support someone or not, not go by what other people has to say. And to me, what I've seen, and what I love, I'm not– he's not going to lose my support any time soon.

JONES: I've been a Republican before Donald Trump. I will be a Republican afterwards. I honestly don't think we will see this issue of racial divide addressed until we remove identity politics out of the political process.

STRASSMAN: These Republican women say if a president deserves blame for making racial tensions worse, it's Obama, not Trump for the identity politics they say Democrats have practiced for the last eight years.

I've read this three times, and still can't figure out why Strassman has said this.  Did you get rid of that, HH?  I'd like to see what they really said, not doubting it, just want to read their words. 

As far as them, as you say, representing an "enormous population that the "establishment" despises", from what I have read and the people I have talked to (a good assortment of republicans, democrats, conservatives, liberals, in betweens) it's not true.  Maybe in your little bubble of the world it is, but not in mine.  BTW, I live in a conservative area, with a lot of friends that are conservative republicans. 
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Palehorse

Quote from: me on August 18, 2017, 01:33:34 PM
What????  Exactly what criminal behaviour and use your own words not those of the media.

🇷🇺 Russia.
R.I.P. - followsthewolf - You are MISSED! 4/17/2013

That which fails to kill me. . .should run!

Any "point" made by one that lacks credibility, is only as useful as toilet paper; and serves the same purpose. ~ Palehorse 4/22/2017

May you find charity when it is needed, and the ability to extend it when it is not. ~Palehorse 7/4/2012

To the last, I grapple with thee; From Hell's heart, I stab at thee; For hate's sake, I spit my last breath at thee.~Herman Melville

me

Quote from: Palehorse on August 19, 2017, 12:23:38 AM
🇷🇺 Russia.
No, that's from the media and has been disproven. Every time they start digging it implicates Hillary more than it does Trump. Too much anonymous stuff about Trump.
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