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Can you admit, that antifa was also there to attack them?

Nazis = bad.
Anti-Nazi's = good.

Did you not learn this as a child?

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Virtually everyone in the world is now criticizing Trump for equating anti-hate groups with hate groups and the only people who don't seem to be able to grasp the concept that they are not the same thing are the hate groups, Trump and a couple of people on this forum.  Hmmmm....

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Virtually everyone in the world is now criticizing Trump for equating anti-hate groups with hate groups and the only people who don't seem to be able to grasp the concept that they are not the same thing are the hate groups, Trump and a couple of people on this forum.  Hmmmm....

Where did you come up with the idea that the Antifa was not ai hate group anyway? BLM, the Antifa, KKK, and Nazi's are all hate groups.  Why is the left upset because Trump condemned all the hate groups including the ones who are on the left? If you think about it ever the pu$$y hat women are a violent group.

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Where did you come up with the idea that the Antifa was not ai hate group anyway?

What is it they hate?

[Exterminator]

"Both sides" did not come armed with long guns.
"Both sides" did not come armed with sticks.
"Both sides" did not come in para-military gear.
"Both sides" did not come with Nazi flags.
"Both sides" did not come with Confederate flags.
"Both sides" were not giving the Nazi salute,
"Both sides" did not drive a car into a crowd of people with the intent of killing and maiming.
It was only one side that did that.
That side was the one chanting "Make America Great Again", "Take America Back", "Blood and Soil".
That side is emboldened by those who talk about both sides being responsible.

[me]

What is it they hate?

Are you serious? They obviously hate all those statues they're hell bent on tearing down, rather Hitler like I might add. They don't let, or yell down, or threaten any right wing speakers at colleges. Hum, isn't that shutting down the opposition?

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Are you serious? They obviously hate all those statues they're hell bent on tearing down, rather Hitler like I might add.

The citizens of Charlottesville voted to tear down the statue of Robert E. Lee.  Should the Germans have statues of Hitler as well?

They don't let, or yell down, or threaten any right wing speakers at colleges. Hum, isn't that shutting down the opposition?

Yes, it is because the opposition is spewing hateful rhetoric.  Are you saying that antifa is a hate group because they hate hate?

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The citizens of Charlottesville voted to tear down the statue of Robert E. Lee.  Should the Germans have statues of Hitler as well?

Yes, it is because the opposition is spewing hateful rhetoric.  Are you saying that antifa is a hate group because they hate hate?

Hum, weren't they the ones destroying businesses and cars not too long ago becase Trump was elected? Who is it that goes around beating on people who happen to have on Trump hats or clothing?

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Here is a little rundown on your precious Atifa group from CNN.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/14/us/what-is-antifa-trnd/index.html

What is Antifa?
By Jessica Suerth, CNN
Updated 7:20 AM ET, Tue August 15, 2017
Source: CNN

Perspective on Charlottesville violence 04:26
Story highlights
A controversial protest group, known as Antifa, clashed with right-wingers in Charlottesville
Some members employ radical or militant tactics to get their message across
(CNN)After protests in Charlottesville, Virginia, turned violent on Saturday, leaving one person dead and dozens injured, the world is still grappling with what happened, who was involved and why.

Hundreds of white nationalists took to the streets over the weekend to protest the removal of a Gen. Robert E. Lee statue. But members of a controversial opposing group, known as Antifa, also showed up to condemn hate and racism.
Here's a closer look at Antifa protesters, who have become more visible in the past year.
What is Antifa?
Antifa is short for anti-fascists. The term is used to define a broad group of people whose political beliefs lean toward the left -- often the far left -- but do not conform with the Democratic Party platform. The group doesn't have an official leader or headquarters, although groups in certain states hold regular meetings.
Protesters blame Charlottesville police for not stopping violence
Protesters blame Charlottesville police for not stopping violence
Antifa positions can be hard to define, but many members support oppressed populations and protest the amassing of wealth by corporations and elites. Some employ radical or militant tactics to get their message across.
Scott Crow, a longtime Antifa organizer, says the "radical ideals" promoted by Antifas are starting to be adopted by liberals. "They would never have looked at (those ideals) before, because they saw us as the enemy as much as the right-wingers."
The majority of Antifa members don't fall into a stereotype. Since the election of President Donald Trump, however, most new Antifa members are young voters.
How did the group start?
The exact origins of the group are unknown, but Antifa can be traced to Nazi Germany and Anti-Fascist Action, a militant group founded in the 1980s in the United Kingdom.
Trump made two statements on Charlottesville. Here's how white nationalists heard them.
Trump made two statements on Charlottesville. Here's how white nationalists heard them.
Modern-day members of Antifa have become more active in making themselves known at public rallies and within the progressive movement, said Brian Levin, director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at California State University, San Bernardino.
"What they're trying to do now is not only become prominent through violence at these high-profile rallies, but also to reach out through small meetings and through social networking to cultivate disenfranchised progressives who heretofore were peaceful," Levin said.
Where do they protest?
Members have been spotted at high-profile, right-wing events across the country, including Milo Yiannopoulos' appearance at the University of California, Berkeley in February. They also protested President Donald Trump's inauguration in January.
While it can be difficult to distinguish Antifa activists from other protesters, some dress head to toe in black. Members call this the "Black Bloc."
They also wear masks to hide their identities from the police and whomever they are protesting.
Why are they controversial?
The group is known for causing damage to property during protests. In Berkeley, black-clad protesters wearing masks threw Molotov cocktails and smashed windows at the student union center where the Yiannopoulos event was to be held.
Crow said members use violence as a means of self-defense and they believe property destruction does not equate to violence.
"There is a place for violence. Is that the world that we want to live in? No. Is it the world we want to inhabit? No. Is it the world we want to create? No. But will we push back? Yes," Crow said.
Trump mum on Twitter after outcry over Charlottesville statement
Trump mum on Twitter after outcry over Charlottesville statement
Levin said Antifa activists feel the need to partake in violence because "they believe that elites are controlling the government and the media. So they need to make a statement head-on against the people who they regard as racist."
"There's this 'It's going down' mentality and this 'Hit them with your boots' mentality that goes back many decades to confrontations that took place, not only here in the American South, but also in places like Europe," he added.
White nationalists and other members of the so-called alt-right have denounced members of Antifa, sometimes calling them the "alt-left." Many white nationalists from the Charlottesville rallies claimed it was the Antifa groups that led the protests to turn violent.
Peter Cvjetanovic, a University of Nevada, Reno, student who attended the Virginia protests over the weekend, said he believes the far left, including Antifa, are "just as dangerous, if not more dangerous than the right wing could ever be."
"These are people who preach tolerance and love while at the same time threatening people with a different political ideology. We go to our rallies and they harass us and attack us but they held theirs and we ignore them. You don't see right-wing protests get like this," Cvjetanovic told CNN affiliate KRNV.
But Crow said the philosophy of Antifa is based on the idea of direct action. "The idea in Antifa is that we go where they (right-wingers) go. That hate speech is not free speech. That if you are endangering people with what you say and the actions that are behind them, then you do not have the right to do that.
"And so we go to cause conflict, to shut them down where they are, because we don't believe that Nazis or fascists of any stripe should have a mouthpiece."
CNN's Sara Ganim contributed to this report.

[Henry Hawk]

Nazis = bad.
Anti-Nazi's = good.

Did you not learn this as a child?

So fuck the constitution and just go out and kill the bad guys, RIGHT?  Who determines who is bad and who is good?  Just kill all people bald white guys, because they MIGHT be NAZI's? 

What about the communist in this country, should we beat the hell out of them if they have any type of rally?

Communist = Bad
Anti-Communist = Good

Socialist Party = Bad
Anti-Socalist = Good

What about Satanic Worshippers?   They are usually bad people.....are they next?

[Henry Hawk]

The citizens of Charlottesville voted to tear down the statue of Robert E. Lee. 

How about the Lenin Statue in Seattle?

Should we tear that down?

[Exterminator]

Here is a little rundown on your precious Atifa group.

I didn't say they weren't violent; doesn't make them a hate group.

[Exterminator]

How about the Lenin Statue in Seattle?

Should we tear that down?

You don't know anything about Lenin, do you?

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Like I said before, virtually everyone else in the world understands the false equivalence racists are suggesting.  For two people who claim not to be racist themselves, you seem to find yourselves on their side of the discussion every single time the issue comes up.

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I didn't say they weren't violent; doesn't make them a hate group.

That statement doesn't even make sense Ex. If hatred for something causes a group to be violent then, yes, they are a hate group. The violence from all sides needs to stop period. If everyone suddenly put down their weapons and decided not to be political pawns the left would go absolutely nuts trying to figure out how to stir them up again.