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Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on May 12, 2017, 06:53:43 PM
I don't think the media is overtly corrupt.  The corporations behind them these days most certainly have their own interests at heart, but I don't think the rank and file employees are.

Here's a question for you Hank.

Do you think Trump routinely lies, or lies to create his own reality of any given situation?
No
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Palehorse on May 13, 2017, 12:39:22 AM
Again, sucks don't it?

Fact is they're no worse now than they were the 8 years of president Obamas terms, and the preceding 2 years. And they continue to serve the interests of their ownership. . .
Yes, they are.  They are nearly silent on the rioting and the violent crap that is going on.  If if wasn't for Fox News reporting some of this, it would go by unnoticed.

Apr. 15, 2017 Protest Demanding Release of Trump Tax Returns:

Summary: A crowd of about 200 people were at a park in Berkeley when violence broke out during a rally demanding President Trump release his full IRS returns.

Total Arrests: 23

Description of Charges: Police said the charges include arrests for assault with a deadly weapon and several other felony assaults.

Total Injuries: 11, including one person who was stabbed, police said.
Feb.  1, 2017 Yiannopoulos Protest:

Summary: Masked agitators who threw rocks and set fires during a Feb. 1 [2017] campus protest against alt-right provocateur Milo Yiannopoulos, leading to the cancellation of his 8 p.m. show at UC Berkeley's Pauley Ballroom.

Total Arrests: 1

Total Injuries: At least 6 individuals were treated by police

Total Damage: $100,000 (Approximate)



Mar. 4, 2017 Counter-Protest to March 4 Trump (Pro-Trump) Rally:

Summary: A March 4th Trump rally involved Trump supporters marching several blocks in Berkeley, California but supporters were met by a group of counter-demonstrators, and fights broke out.

Total Arrests: At least 10.



Arrest Descriptions & Breakdown: Resisting arrest (1), assault with a deadly weapon (4), including a dagger, battery (5). Among the other items police confiscated at the rally were metal pipes, bats and two-by-fours

Injuries: Approximately seven medical evaluations were made on the scene. None of the injured wanted to be taken to the hospital.

Damages: Unknown – media reporting does not indicate any property damag
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But yet most of the main stream media didn't report this crap...

The level of hatred is alarming......There was NEVER this kind of outright hatred and disrespect towards Obama....not even remotely close.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

libby

Quote from: Locutus on May 12, 2017, 06:53:43 PM
I don't think the media is overtly corrupt.  The corporations behind them these days most certainly have their own interests at heart, but I don't think the rank and file employees are.

Here's a question for you Hank.

Do you think Trump routinely lies, or lies to create his own reality of any given situation?
Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 13, 2017, 07:25:12 AM
No

I think Trump routinely lies and creates his own reality. And, there might be more. The following is especially  :spooked: because the person speaking is Joe Scarborough, republican and former congressman:

Scarborough Compares Trump Remarks to Someone With Dementia

(MSNBC/"Morning Joe")
By Joe Crowe | Tuesday, 02 May 2017 08:02 AM

President Donald Trump's recent statements sound like someone who has dementia, MSNBC's "Morning Joe" co-host Joe Scarborough said Tuesday.

"It was really shocking... he was mumbling, rambling around, incoherent, and then just sort of quit talking, walked off," Scarborough said.

Trump on Sunday abruptly ended an interview with CBS' John Dickerson after being asked about his claim that former President Barack Obama wiretapped Trump Tower during the presidential campaign.

"Morning Joe's" panel on Tuesday also noted Trump's comments about the Civil War, in which the commander in chief questioned why that war was not avoided.

"My mother had dementia for 10 years," Scarborough said. "That sounds like the sort of thing my mother would say today...it's beyond the realm, and I'm not trying to be anything here but very direct. That's something that a 5-year-old might ask.

"He doesn't seem to remember what he said just five minutes ago," Scarborough continued.
"That's not anything that any grown-up that I've ever been around in my entire life would ever let pass from their lips, because that has been the central question of how did America begin," he added.

Co-host Mika Brzezinski said she worried that no one in the White House could rein Trump in because "he's blithering right and left, and I can only imagine that his staff is sitting there with their head in their hands, because no one can stop him."

Historian Jon Meacham, also on the show's panel, compared Trump to a pinball machine.
"He's just this steel ball that hits something, the bells go off and he bounces off and hits something else, and that's not the most reassuring image you want in a nuclear age at the highest levels," Meacham said.

Transcripts of Trump's recent interviews are "disturbing," panelist Mike Barnicle added and a president's ability to communicate is important.

"The employment of language for a president is one of the most vital aspects of the presidency," said Barnicle.

"It's very upsetting, kind of depressing, to read the transcripts of this particular president as he rambles on anecdotally, ad libs about things that are critical to the future of this country."

All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Henry Hawk

Joe Scarborough is a liberal political hack.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: libby on May 12, 2017, 11:21:40 PM


You, Hank, like a lot of others, don't have a clue. Trump is ruthless, and I would guess right now, desperate. So, using his power as POTUS, he fired the person (FBI Director Comey) who was leading an  investigation into Trump's involvement with the Russians.

As for Comey, what do you do when your boss, who happens to be the POTUS, asks you to sign something professing your loyalty to him? Agreed it was hard to understand just what Comey was doing when he made statements that seemed to indicate he was at least partly responsible for Hillary Clinton losing the election to Trump  :spooked:

I would guess Trump got to Comey, the FBI Director, before the 'last chance dinner' that led to Comey being fired.   
 

:rolleyes:
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

libby

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 15, 2017, 08:18:47 AM
Joe Scarborough is a liberal political hack.
He is a republican and not one of my favorite people; however, he's got Mika, a democrat, as a co-host, and, he knows how to get to all the right people in D.C. (check out the MJ guest list one of these mornings). Here's a short Joe bio from Wikipedia:

"In addition to being current co-host of Morning Joe on MSNBC, he was previously a lawyer and politician, and served in the U.S. House of Representatives. He was named in the 2011 Time 100 as one of the most influential people in the world."
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Henry Hawk

Quote from: libby on May 15, 2017, 11:12:39 AM
He is a republican and not one of my favorite people; however, he's got Mika, a democrat, as a co-host, and, he knows how to get to all the right people in D.C. (check out the MJ guest list one of these mornings). Here's a short Joe bio from Wikipedia:

"In addition to being current co-host of Morning Joe on MSNBC, he was previously a lawyer and politician, and served in the U.S. House of Representatives. He was named in the 2011 Time 100 as one of the most influential people in the world."
I know he was a "republican congressman" but he is STILL a political hack.....getting paid very, very good by MSNBC, to spew crap.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

libby

 :rolleyes: Stay tuned. Your hero (Trump) is in the news again. This time The Washington Post has revealed that when he met with Russians here a few days ago (in the Oval Office) he got to bragging and ?inadvertently revealed classified information that could be  :spooked:  :eek: very damaging. Nobody knew the Russians were in his office until photos they took were published on the internet (by the Russians).

All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

me

Quote from: libby on May 15, 2017, 11:05:01 PM
:rolleyes: Stay tuned. Your hero (Trump) is in the news again. This time The Washington Post has revealed that when he met with Russians here a few days ago (in the Oval Office) he got to bragging and ?inadvertently revealed classified information that could be  :spooked:  :eek: very damaging. Nobody knew the Russians were in his office until photos they took were published on the internet (by the Russians).
And they know this how since they weren't there?
Trump 2020

Henry Hawk

Quote from: libby on May 15, 2017, 11:05:01 PM
:rolleyes: Stay tuned. Your hero (Trump) is in the news again. This time The Washington Post has revealed that when he met with Russians here a few days ago (in the Oval Office) he got to bragging and ?inadvertently revealed classified information that could be  :spooked:  :eek: very damaging. Nobody knew the Russians were in his office until photos they took were published on the internet (by the Russians).


Well, our national security adviser H.R. McMaster, claims it is false.  Once again, more fake news.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Locutus

Quote from: Henry Hawk on May 16, 2017, 08:24:00 AM
Well, our national security adviser H.R. McMaster, claims it is false.  Once again, more fake news.

Really? 

Trump himself said it was true just this morning.  :rolleyes:

How long are you going to keep blinders on Hank?

How long can you keep defending this complete incompetence that you and others like you have imposed upon the country?

Surely you can't be as stupid and blind as you appear to be here.
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism.  -- @realDonaldTrump

Fake news my ass.  :rolleyes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

me

Quote from: Locutus on May 16, 2017, 09:10:38 AM
As President I wanted to share with Russia (at an openly scheduled W.H. meeting) which I have the absolute right to do, facts pertaining to terrorism and airline flight safety. Humanitarian reasons, plus I want Russia to greatly step up their fight against ISIS & terrorism.  -- @realDonaldTrump

Fake news my ass.  :rolleyes:
Yes, he did share info with them but it was info that needed shared and from the sounds of it it had to do with trying to make things safer for us and everyone else since it involved terrorism. If he had shared actual "classified" info why would he then tell on himself?
Trump 2020

Locutus

Quote from: me on May 16, 2017, 09:50:39 AM
Yes, he did share info with them but it was info that needed shared and from the sounds of it it had to do with trying to make things safer for us and everyone else since it involved terrorism. If he had shared actual "classified" info why would he then tell on himself?

:rolleyes:

When are you people going to open your fucking eyes?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson