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Henry Hawk

He hasn't even taken office and we are already better off....


Ford to scrap Mexico plant, invest in Michigan due to Trump policies
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/01/03/ford-to-scrap-mexico-plant-invest-in-michigan-due-to-trump-policies.html

Ford Motor Company on Tuesday announced plans to cancel the building of a $1.3 billion plant in Mexico and instead invest $700 million in a Michigan assembly plant, directly tying the decision to "pro-growth policies" championed by President-elect Donald Trump.

Trump had previously been critical of Ford's plans to build in Mexico.

CEO Mark Fields, speaking at an event at the Flat Rock Assembly Plant, said the policies that Trump "and the new Congress have indicated they will pursue" were vital to the company's decision.

"We believe these tax and regulatory reforms are necessary to boost U.S. competitiveness," Fields said.

The investment in the Flat Rock plant is set to create 700 jobs, according to Fields. The money will be used to open a new factory used to build high-tech autonomous and electric vehicles as well as the Mustang and Lincoln Continental, the company said in a press release.

"I am thrilled that we have been able to secure additional UAW-Ford jobs for American workers," UAW Vice President Jimmy Settles said in the release. "The men and women of Flat Rock Assembly have shown a great commitment to manufacturing quality products, and we look forward to their continued success with a new generation of high-tech vehicles."
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

I know it hurts you guys to say ANYTHING positive, but THIS is a GREAT thing!!!! Why isn't anyone excited about this!!!

This is EXACTLY what we ALL should be wanting to hear!!!!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 03, 2017, 04:55:19 PM
I know it hurts you guys to say ANYTHING positive, but THIS is a GREAT thing!!!! Why isn't anyone excited about this!!!

This is EXACTLY what we ALL should be wanting to hear!!!!

   You actually think that Trump stopped :stop: Ford Motor Company from going to Mexico.  :doh:    :haha:  :haha:

Henry Hawk

Quote from: The Troll on January 03, 2017, 05:04:07 PM
   You actually think that Trump stopped :stop: Ford Motor Company from going to Mexico.  :doh:    :haha:  :haha:

According to CEO of Ford, Mark Fields, he wasn't the main reason, BUT......"We see the pro-growth policies that he's proposing. So, this is a vote of confidence in what we think the president-elect is going to pursue and it's right for our business," .....if Hillary was elected, they probably would STILL be heading the bulk, to Mexico.
His words, not mine.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

AbbyTC

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 04, 2017, 08:34:15 AM
According to CEO of Ford, Mark Fields, he wasn't the main reason, BUT......"We see the pro-growth policies that he's proposing. So, this is a vote of confidence in what we think the president-elect is going to pursue and it's right for our business," .....if Hillary was elected, they probably would STILL be heading the bulk, to Mexico.
His words, not mine.

According to Reuters:  "Ford Chief Executive Mark Fields said the decision to cancel the new Mexico factory was the result of sagging demand for small cars in North America and not because Trump was elected president. He told Fox Business that the automaker would have made the same decision even if Trump had not been elected."
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: AbbyTC on January 04, 2017, 01:02:02 PM
According to Reuters:  "Ford Chief Executive Mark Fields said the decision to cancel the new Mexico factory was the result of sagging demand for small cars in North America and not because Trump was elected president. He told Fox Business that the automaker would have made the same decision even if Trump had not been elected."


Welll, he also said this: "We see the pro-growth policies that he's proposing. So, this is a vote of confidence in what we think the president-elect is going to pursue and it's right for our business,"...so it did indeed, influence their decision. That is all I'm saying.  Trump is having a POSITIVE influence on our economy, before he has taken office.

Which you can hate him all you want, but this IS a GOOD thing for America.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

AbbyTC

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 04, 2017, 01:42:05 PM
Welll, he also said this: "We see the pro-growth policies that he's proposing. So, this is a vote of confidence in what we think the president-elect is going to pursue and it's right for our business,"...so it did indeed, influence their decision. That is all I'm saying.  Trump is having a POSITIVE influence on our economy, before he has taken office.

Which you can hate him all you want, but this IS a GOOD thing for America.

You're repeating yourself.  I read it the first time.  YOU are the one who said
Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 04, 2017, 08:34:15 AM
if Hillary was elected, they probably would STILL be heading the bulk, to Mexico.
His words, not mine.
Which is why I posted what I did. They were going to do it anyway.  Also in Reuters: "Ford Chief Executive Mark Fields said the decision to cancel the new Mexico factory was the result of sagging demand for small cars in North America".  Hmmm, could he have said it was a vote of confidence to get on Trump's good side?  Just a thought!  :wink:
In three words I can sum up everything I've learned about life: it goes on. Robert Frost

Perhaps the butterfly is proof that you can go through a great deal of darkness yet become something beautiful.

Exterminator

So now we've gone from Mexico paying for the wall to asking Congress to appropriate funds for the wall that Mexico will pay back, like that's ever going to happen.  Prepare for the deficit to start climbing again as these conservative clowns spend money they don't have.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

How long before his voters finally figure out that they've had a huge con pulled on them, and that they've been lied to?
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on January 06, 2017, 12:05:26 PM
So now we've gone from Mexico paying for the wall to asking Congress to appropriate funds for the wall that Mexico will pay back, like that's ever going to happen.  Prepare for the deficit to start climbing again as these conservative clowns spend money they don't have.


Pay for the Wall

Introduction
: The provision of the Patriot Act, Section 326
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the "know your customer" provision, compelling financial institutions to demand identity
documents before opening accounts or conducting financial transactions is a fundamental element of the outline below. That section authorized the
executive branch to issue detailed regulations on the subject, found at 31 CFR 130.120

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121. It's an easy decision for Mexico: make a one-time payment of $5-10 billion to ensure that $24 billion continues to flow into their country year
after year. There are several ways to compel Mexico to pay for the wall including the following:


On day 1 promulgate a "proposed rule" (regulation) amending 31 CFR130.121 to redefine applicable financial institutions to include money transfer companies like Western Union, and redefine "account" to include wire transfers. Also include in the proposed rule a requirement that no alien may wire money outside of the United States  unless the alien first provides a document establishing his lawful presence in the United States.


On day 2 Mexico will immediately protest. They receive approximately $24 billion a year in remittances from Mexican nationals working in the United
States. The majority of that amount comes from illegal aliens. It serves as de facto welfare for poor families in Mexico.

There is no significant social safety net provided by the state in Mexico.


On day 3 tell Mexico that if the Mexican government will contribute the funds needed to the United States  to pay for the wall, the Trump Administration will not promulgate the final rule, and the regulation will not go into effect.


Trade tariffs, or enforcement of existing trade rules: There is no doubt that Mexico is engaging in unfair subsidy behavior that has eliminated thousands
of U.S. jobs, and which we are obligated to respond to; the impact of any tariffs on the price imports will be more than offset by the economic and income gains of increased production in the United States, in addition to revenue from any tariffs themselves. Mexico needs access to our markets much more than the reverse, so we have all the leverage and will win the negotiation.

By definition, if you have a large trade deficit with a nation, it means they are selling far more to you than the reverse -thus they, not you, stand to lose from enforcing trade rules through tariffs (as has been done to save many U.S. industries in the past).


Cancelling visas: Immigration is a privilege, not a right. Mexico is totally dependent on the United States as a release valve for its own poverty -our
approvals of hundreds of thousands of visas to their nationals every year is one of our greatest leverage points. We also have leverage through business and tourist visas for important people in the Mexican economy.

Keep in mind, the United States  has already taken in 4X more migrants than any other country on planet earth, producing lower wages and higher unemployment for our own citizens and recent migrants.


Visa fees: Even a small increase in visa fees would pay for the wall. This includes fees on border crossing cards, of which more than 1 million are
issued a year. The border-crossing card is also one of the greatest sources of illegal immigration into the United States, via overstays. Mexico is also the single largest recipient of U.S. green cards, which confer a path to U.S. citizenship. Again, we have the leverage so Mexico will back down.

Conclusion: Mexico has taken advantage of us in another way as well: gangs, drug traffickers and cartels have freely exploited our open borders and
committed vast numbers of crimes inside the United States. The United States has borne the extraordinary daily cost of this criminal activity, including the cost of trials and incarcerations. Not to mention the even greater human cost.

We have the moral high ground here, and all the leverage. It is time we use it in order to Make America Great Again.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Locutus on January 06, 2017, 12:27:39 PM
How long before his voters finally figure out that they've had a huge con pulled on them, and that they've been lied to?
How long until you guys figure out that 'just maybe' you were wrong and don't know everything and that Trump IS making America Great Again? HUH?
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Locutus on January 06, 2017, 12:27:39 PM
How long before his voters finally figure out that they've had a huge con pulled on them, and that they've been lied to?

Never because they're stupid.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

The Troll

Quote from: Henry Hawk on January 06, 2017, 12:35:41 PM
How long until you guys figure out that 'just maybe' you were wrong and don't know everything and that Trump IS making America Great Again? HUH?

  BTW Chicken Hawk, did you read where Trump :hogslop: has ask congress to find a way to pay for the wall using taxpayer money.   :huh1:

  You know Mr. Chicken, everything you say needs to be metered.  :det:


  You do know Mr. Chicken when the chickens are out in the cow lot they will pick the corn out of the cow shit to eat.  Being good peckers, even these good peckers will get a little shit with ever grain of corn.   :yes:  But with you Mr. Chicken you miss the corn all together and get nothing but the shit.  :haha:  :haha:

Exterminator

Congratulations, Trump supporters!  You are every bit as much Putin's little bitches as Trump is.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

They're all too dumb to care.   :rolleyes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson