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libby

Quote from: Locutus on December 05, 2016, 02:51:17 PM
I hope I'm wrong Hank; I really do.  I want him to succeed and make the country better.  But what I'm seeing out of him and his appointees so far scares the shit out of me. 
I'm the kind of person who has always thought there's some good in everyone, but Trump? Maybe there is, at least for his children, but otherwise? I don't think he is capable of feeling anything remotely like empathy. He is obviously very intelligent and devious and unpredictable, and I agree absolutely with part of what you wrote: "... what I'm seeing out of him and his appointees so far scares the shit out of me."
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

me

Quote from: Locutus on December 05, 2016, 01:40:13 PM
...and now Ben Carson for Housing and Urban Development.  :rolleyes:
I imagine he knows what needs done in that aspect 'cause he was raised in Detroit public housing from what I understand so it isn't like he's unfamiliar with the needs of poor people and what it's like to live under those conditions. Having experienced those conditions himself should give him the insight to do what needs done unlike someone who has never experienced it.
Trump 2020

parkerdivine

Quote from: me on December 06, 2016, 01:21:35 AM
I imagine he knows what needs done in that aspect 'cause he was raised in Detroit public housing from what I understand so it isn't like he's unfamiliar with the needs of poor people and what it's like to live under those conditions. Having experienced those conditions himself should give him the insight to do what needs done unlike someone who has never experienced it.

Nah.  Carson is an uncle tom.  He's proven that through his life and his campaign for president.

http://www.alternet.org/why-gop-loves-ben-carson-he-helps-racist-whites-hide-their-racism

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on December 05, 2016, 03:59:30 PM
That's absolute bullshit and you're a liar.   :rolleyes:
Nope, I am not...and it is NOT Bullshit....wrong on both accounts.  You are really struggling lately.  But, lets be clear.  I am NOT lying nor is it bullshit.

The bottom line, is I want this country to become strong economically once again.  I want to see a boom, similar as to what we got experience during the Reagan/Clinton years....Obama, IMO, ended up failing in this dept.
I want to see leadership once again........Obama ended up failing in this dept (IMO)....
I want to see leadership
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 08:52:11 AM
Nope, I am not...and it is NOT Bullshit....wrong on both accounts.  You are really struggling lately.  But, lets be clear.  I am NOT lying nor is it bullshit.

LMFAO!  Struggling how?  It should be easy enough to prove me wrong.  Show us the post in which you clearly said you wanted Obama to succeed and I'll eat my words.  Unless and until you do, I stand by my statement that that's bullshit and you're a liar.

QuoteThe bottom line, is I want this country to become strong economically once again.

And what does that look like?  High corporate profits?  Record stock market?  Low unemployment?  Annual federal budget deficit a third of what it was 8 years ago?

QuoteI want to see a boom, similar as to what we got experience during the Reagan/Clinton years.

You must have been high on crack during the 80's if you think this country experienced an economic boon (not boom  :rolleyes:) during Reagan's administration.

QuoteObama, IMO, ended up failing in this dept.

Yes, those thing I mentioned before are terrible.   :rolleyes:

QuoteI want to see white leadership once again........Obama ended up failing in this dept (IMO)....

I went ahead and fixed this to say what you really mean.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: me on December 06, 2016, 01:21:35 AM
I imagine he knows what needs done in that aspect 'cause he was raised in Detroit public housing from what I understand so it isn't like he's unfamiliar with the needs of poor people and what it's like to live under those conditions. Having experienced those conditions himself should give him the insight to do what needs done unlike someone who has never experienced it.

Standing in a garage doesn't make you a car.   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on December 06, 2016, 09:05:44 AM
LMFAO!  Struggling how?  It should be easy enough to prove me wrong.  Show us the post in which you clearly said you wanted Obama to succeed and I'll eat my words.  Unless and until you do, I stand by my statement that that's bullshit and you're a liar.

Quote from: Henry Hawk on November 06, 2008, 10:39:40 AM
Like the ones who's mission was to annaliate President Bush?


Listen, Bo...I honestly HOPE and PRAY, that Obama makes a democrat out of me....I'm getting TOO old, and things are too important to play politics.....I do NOT agree with his methodology of many issues, but, I will support the POTUS...and if he is wrong, then he will and should be called out on them....if he is right, then God Bless him and I will be ready to cast a vote for him in 2012....

Yo EX, ahem!
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 10:26:26 AM
Yo EX, ahem!

Mmmm...words are good!

Now clarify what you meant by if he's wrong or if he's right because I never once saw you support anything he did.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on December 06, 2016, 10:31:40 AM
Mmmm...words are good!

Now clarify what you meant by if he's wrong or if he's right because I never once saw you support anything he did.

That's what I figure........backing out of your words.

You have NO CLUE if I didn't support him or not.  I know I didn't go out and riot and set shit on fire.

I Bullshit on here, just to keep you frothing....I never HATED the man, just didn't agree with him on his leadership.

I also made that statement after he was elected........I was eager for "HOPE & CHANGE". Which he failed at.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 10:42:06 AM
That's what I figure........backing out of your words.

I said I'd eat my words and followed with, "mmmm...words are good."  Is there something about that that's hard for you to understand?  They are all monosyllabic words so I'm not sure I could make it any simpler.   :biggrin:

QuoteI never HATED the man, just didn't agree with him on his leadership.

Disagreed with what, specifically?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on December 06, 2016, 10:54:57 AM
Disagreed with what, specifically?

Healthcare...
The way he handled the Middle East (Iran & Syria) and Terrorism...
His Executive Orders...
His leadership, which I think he contributed to a divided nation and spurred on racial tensions.

"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 11:04:47 AM
Healthcare...
The way he handled the Middle East (Iran & Syria) and Terrorism...
His Executive Orders...
His leadership, which I think he contributed to a divided nation and spurred on racial tensions.

You said you disagreed with him in your post from November 6, 2008.  At that time, none of these things had occurred.  Again I ask, with what did you disagree when you made that statement, specifically?
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Locutus

Quote from: me on December 06, 2016, 01:21:35 AM
I imagine he knows what needs done in that aspect 'cause he was raised in Detroit public housing from what I understand so it isn't like he's unfamiliar with the needs of poor people and what it's like to live under those conditions. Having experienced those conditions himself should give him the insight to do what needs done unlike someone who has never experienced it.

He was not raised in public housing.  :rolleyes:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

Locutus

Quote from: Exterminator on December 06, 2016, 10:54:57 AM
They are all monosyllabic words so I'm not sure I could make it any simpler.   :biggrin:



The word monosyllabic is not monosyllabic.  You sure he knows what you mean?  :biggrin:
One of the gravest dangers to the survival of our republic is an ignorant electorate routinely feeding at the trough of propaganda.   -- Locutus

"We are all connected; To each other, biologically. To the earth, chemically. To the rest of the universe atomically."  -- Dr. Neil deGrasse Tyson

parkerdivine

Quote from: Henry Hawk on December 06, 2016, 08:52:11 AM
Nope, I am not...and it is NOT Bullshit....wrong on both accounts.  You are really struggling lately.  But, lets be clear.  I am NOT lying nor is it bullshit.

The bottom line, is I want this country to become strong economically once again.  I want to see a boom, similar as to what we got experience during the Reagan/Clinton years....Obama, IMO, ended up failing in this dept.
I want to see leadership once again........Obama ended up failing in this dept (IMO)....
I want to see leadership

What boom in Reagan and Clinton years?  Clinton removed Glass-Steagall Act which allowed the banks and investors to merge, causing the collapse of the economy.  Reagan began outsourcing jobs.