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Started by me, June 11, 2016, 09:15:40 PM

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me

As you know I've had my doubts about Trump and even after watching this am not quite sure but I do have a different outlook on him now. This is a little lengthy but worth watching since it shows him in a different light. How he performs in the debates will tell all.

http://www.infowars.com/this-video-will-get-donald-trump-elected-if-it-goes-viral/
Trump 2020

Exterminator

Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

me

Trump 2020

The Troll

Quote from: me on June 11, 2016, 09:15:40 PM
As you know I've had my doubts about Trump and even after watching this am not quite sure but I do have a different outlook on him now. This is a little lengthy but worth watching since it shows him in a different light. How he performs in the debates will tell all.

http://www.infowars.com/this-video-will-get-donald-trump-elected-if-it-goes-viral/


    :me: "ME"  You sure have a lot in common with the mentally ill in this country by supporting Trump.   :wall: :bliss:

libby

Quote from: me on June 11, 2016, 09:15:40 PM
As you know I've had my doubts about Trump and even after watching this am not quite sure but I do have a different outlook on him now. This is a little lengthy but worth watching since it shows him in a different light. How he performs in the debates will tell all.

http://www.infowars.com/this-video-will-get-donald-trump-elected-if-it-goes-viral/
??

Trump is obviously brilliant at making himself rich, but does that mean anything more than being able to buy "friends"?  And Votes? The job of POTUS?

The following is from the front page of today's Washington Post:

Trump casino venture: He wins, investors ...

As its stock collapsed, Trump's firm gave him huge bonuses and paid for his jet

June 12, 2016  by Drew Harwell

It was promoted as the chance of a lifetime: Mom and pop investors could buy shares in celebrity businessman Donald Trump's first public company, Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts.

Their investments were quickly depleted. The company known by Trump's initials, DJT, crumbled into a  penny stock and filed for bankruptcy after less than a decade, costing shareholders millions of dollars, even as other casino companies soared.

In its short life, Trump the company greatly enriched Trump the businessman, paying to have his personal jet piloted and buying heaps of Trump brand merchandise. Despite losing money every year under Trump's leadership, the company paid Trump handsomely, including a $5 million bonus in the year the company's stock plummeted 70 percent.

Many of those who lost money were Main Street shareholders who believed in the Trump brand, such as Sebastian Pignatello, a retired private investor in Queens. By the time of the 2004 bankruptcy, Pignatello's 150,000 shares were worth pennies on the dollar.

"He had been pillaging the company all along," said Pignatelli, who joined the shareholders in a lawsuit against Trump that has since been settled. "Even his business allies, they were all fair game. He has  no qualms about screwing anybody. That's what he does."

Trump's bid for the White House relies heavily on his ability to sell himself as a master businessman, a standout performer in real estate and reality TV.
But interviews with former shareholders and analysts as well as years of financial filings reveal a striking characteristic of his business record: Even when his endeavors failed and other people lost money, the presumptive Republican presidential nominee found a way to make money for himself, to market his Trump-branded products and to pay for his expensive lifestyle.

Trump was the chairman of Trump Hotels and Casino Resorts in Atlantic City from 1995 to 2009, his only outing as the head of a major public company. During that time, the company lost more than $1 billion, financial records show. He also was chief executive from 2000 to 2005, during which time share prices plunged from a high of $35 to as low as 17 cents. Trump received more than $44 million in salary, bonuses and other compensation during his time at the company, filings show. He also benefited from tens of millions of dollars more in special deals, advisory fees and "service agreements" he negotiated with his company.

Trump's campaign did not make him available to respond to specific questions about the company, but in a recent Washington Post interview, Trump said he "made a lot of money in Atlantic City," adding, "I make great deals for myself"
He expounded: "They say, "Why don't you take the casinos public or something?" You know, if you take them public, you make money on that. All I can say is I wasn't representing the country. I wasn't representing the banks. I wasn't representing anybody but myself."

Corporate governance experts say it's rare for executives of public companies to suggest that they haven't been looking out for the shareholders who financed them.
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www.washingtonpost.com

All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Henry Hawk

I guess we can use the same logic as Ex did........."Tripe!"....

Funny how trusting some are of known politicians, but are scared to death of a very, very, very successful businessman....despite how some people try their best to make him seem like a failure......he is the farthest thing from a failure.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Because spending other people's money with no intention of paying them back is the definition of success, huh?   :rolleyes:
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on June 13, 2016, 03:27:16 PM
Because spending other people's money with no intention of paying them back is the definition of success, huh?   :rolleyes:

Isn't that what our government is doing?  Hasn't Obama done this very thing since he has been in office?  Owing nearly $19 Trillion????

Tripe is what you are doing with Trump....your words, not mine.

Trump has/is employing hundreds of thousand of people.  He has made lives much better for hundreds of thousands.

Keep trying though....
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

libby

Quote from: Exterminator on June 13, 2016, 03:27:16 PM
Because spending other people's money with no intention of paying them back is the definition of success, huh?   :rolleyes:
Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2016, 04:13:44 PM

Trump has/is employing hundreds of thousand of people.  He has made lives much better for hundreds of thousands.


Huh?  :rolleyes: 
All of life is a process of testing and initiation, always preparing for a higher level of consciousness -- and illumination. -- John Horn

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2016, 04:13:44 PM
Isn't that what our government is doing?  Hasn't Obama done this very thing since he has been in office?  Owing nearly $19 Trillion????

The government borrowing money which, by the way, it makes payments on and doesn't default on, isn't the same as an individual using other people's money to support his lifestyle.  It doesn't surprise me that you wouldn't understand the distinction.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on June 14, 2016, 08:34:29 AM
The government borrowing money which, by the way, it makes payments on and doesn't default on, isn't the same as an individual using other people's money to support his lifestyle.  It doesn't surprise me that you wouldn't understand the distinction.
No, they are spending money they don't have........other peoples money is the only way to put it.  Just like dipping into SS...to pay for things it wasn't intended for.
But it doesn't surprise me that you don't understand this distinction.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 14, 2016, 12:25:07 PM
No, they are spending money they don't have...

That's how credit works.  Some people use it responsibly; some don't.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Exterminator

Quote from: Henry Hawk on June 13, 2016, 02:47:32 PM
...very, very, very successful businessman....despite how some people try their best to make him seem like a failure......he is the farthest thing from a failure.

The only thing he hasn't failed at is convincing gullible sheep that he's successful.
Arguing with Christians is like playing chess with a pigeon.  No matter how good I am at chess, the pigeon is just going to knock over the pieces, shit on the board and strut around like it's victorious.

The truth is slow, but relentless. Over time it becomes irresistible.

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on June 14, 2016, 02:09:11 PM
That's how credit works.  Some people use it responsibly; some don't.
Our current government doesn't. 

You are losing this one pretty easily.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW

Henry Hawk

Quote from: Exterminator on June 14, 2016, 02:10:59 PM
The only thing he hasn't failed at is convincing gullible sheep that he's successful.

More than 13 million GOP voters seem to think his resume is much better than the previous primaries.....He has set a record turn out.
"The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left."
Ecclesiastes 10:2 - It all makes sense to me now...


"The future ain't what it used to be."– Yogi Berra

"Square roots are rarely found on any plant." FTW