General Election 2016 - Trump v. Clinton

[parkerdivine]

I agree with Cookie in that I would prefer a different candidate.  However, I refuse to waste a vote by writing someone in so that it may give Trump a chance to win this election.  He's dangerous as hell.  I know HRC has faults, but like I've said on here before, there's never been a candidate in my lifetime, or perhaps ever, that's more qualified and ready to step into the position of POTUS than she is.

That's hardly an endorsement of her. Look at our candidates since Reagan and how they are all after a few things....fascism, an oligarchy, and policing the world to rape and pillage for the natural resources. ALSO, look at how NONE of them were impeached for their policies EXCEPT Clinton whose policies were apparently "chicks like guys in power and I'm married to HER" 

[parkerdivine]

    You know what?  I don't give a damn how you vote.     You're one of the thousands of dumb-ass Kentucky hillbilly"s who are voting against their station in life. You are voting against the Democratic Party that through out the years has helped Kentucky with dams, electricity, unions in the coal mines and  in many other ways and you want to throw the Republicans into the White House because of your pure hatred for Hilary Clinton.  It's all in your fucked up mind and by reading what you say, you're no fucking genius. 

  By the way if you want to get off you ass and go work, don't come up to Indiana.  Because we have to many dumb-ass Trump voters up here.     

I'm originally from Iowa...you know, the creators of the Iowa Test of BAsic skills no child can pass now?

Clinton is a neoliberal and is no more the FDR democrats than Bush was.  The party has swung to the right....check it out.  Voting for Clinton is voting to DESTROY the middle class.

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/12/the_democrats_have_no_soul_the_clintons_neoliberalism_and_how_the_peoples_party_lost_its_way/

[Palehorse]

I'm originally from Iowa...you know, the creators of the Iowa Test of BAsic skills no child can pass now?

Clinton is a neoliberal and is no more the FDR democrats than Bush was.  The party has swung to the right....check it out.  Voting for Clinton is voting to DESTROY the middle class.

http://www.salon.com/2016/04/12/the_democrats_have_no_soul_the_clintons_neoliberalism_and_how_the_peoples_party_lost_its_way/

Case in point surrounding my post within another area to you.

You are propaganda drunk and this proves it.

Clinton will destroy the middle-class? Seriously? What do you think Trump will do? (Rhetorical question). 

[Locutus]

That's hardly an endorsement of her. Look at our candidates since Reagan and how they are all after a few things....fascism, an oligarchy, and policing the world to rape and pillage for the natural resources. ALSO, look at how NONE of them were impeached for their policies EXCEPT Clinton whose policies were apparently "chicks like guys in power and I'm married to HER" 

I understand what you're saying, but are you really advocating for people, especially those in swing states, to write in someone, or to vote for a third party candidate? 

Every write in and third party vote cast, especially in swing states, is one less vote that the egotistical nutjob Trump needs in order to win.  Do you really want to see a Trump presidency and your very own religi-nut governor advising him on Supreme Court nominees?

If a gun were held to your head, and you had to make a choice between Hilary and Trump, which would it be?

[Locutus]

And here's something else to read considering Trump going around shooting off his mouth about our defense of NATO allies.

http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/03/opinions/next-world-war-andelman/index.html

[Henry Hawk]

If a gun were held to your head, and you had to make a choice between Hilary and Trump, which would it be?

Hillary in a seconds notice!! without a fucking doubt..(sorry).  If it was Ronald McDonald and Hillary, the Clown would win!

Okay, for my political rant of the day..........why didn't the democrats put up MORE than two others during the primary season.....it was GIVEN to Hillary.  If they had put up ANYONE other than Hillary, it would have probably been a shoo in....as it is now....and you can quote me.......Hillary WILL BE indicted.

Film at 11.

[Locutus]

She isn't going to be indicted.  I'd be willing to fly there to Indiana and bet a steak dinner on it. 

[Henry Hawk]

She isn't going to be indicted.  I'd be willing to fly there to Indiana and bet a steak dinner on it. 

Maybe, but........


Baier gives more details to Fox News Channel's Brit Hume.

Transcript:

    BRET BAIER: Here's the deal: We talked to two separate sources with intimate knowledge of the FBI investigations. One: The Clinton Foundation investigation is far more expansive than anybody has reported so far... Several offices separately have been doing their own investigations.

    Two: The immunity deal that Cheryl Mills and Heather Samuelson, two top aides to Hillary Clinton, got from the Justice Department in which it was beleived that the laptops they had, after a narrow review for classified materials, were going to be destroyed. We have been told that those have not been destroyed -- they are at the FBI field office here on Washington and are being exploited. .

    Three: The Clinton Foundation investigation is so expansive, they have interviewed and re-interviewed many people. They described the evidence they have as 'a lot of it' and said there is an 'avalanche coming in every day.' WikiLeaks and the new emails.

    They are "actively and aggressively pursuing this case." Remember the Foundation case is about accusations of pay-for-play... They are taking the new information and some of them are going back to interview people for the third time. As opposed to what has been written about the Clinton Foundation investigation, it is expansive.

    The classified e-mail investigation is being run by the National Security division of the FBI. They are currently combing through Anthony Weiner's laptop. They are having some success -- finding what they believe to be new emaisls, not duplicates, that have been transported through Hillary Clinton's server.

    Finally, we learned there is a confidence from these sources that her server had been hacked. And that it was a 99% accuracy that it had been hacked by at least five foreign intelligence agencies, and that things had been taken from that...

    There has been some angst about Attorney General Loretta Lynch -- what she has done or not done. She obviously did not impanel, or go to a grand jury at the beginning. They also have a problem, these sources do, with what President Obama said today and back in October of 2015...

    I pressed again and again on this very issue... The investigations will continue, there is a lot of evidence. And barring some obstruction in some way, they believe they will continue to likely an indictment.

[Locutus]

I KNEW that shit came from Fux News. 

C'mon!!  Steak dinner! 

[The Troll]

  Here we go again, dumb-ass Henry quoting word and word from Fox News.    I say, I say Bird Boy you sure don't have any pride or sense.   

[Palehorse]

Trump is under investigation on a number of fronts, with indictments pending or hearings scheduled for November and December of this year. Then there are the 75+ other lawsuits that have yet to be scheduled. . .

That doesn't matter though does it? 

[Henry Hawk]

I KNEW that shit came from Fux News. 

C'mon!!  Steak dinner! 

I think they have a better record of reporting the "News" than any OTHER TV "News"....just sayin.....

While I'm on it, I have one more "opinion piece that is interesting........


Was Huma Abedin hiding Hillary's supposedly "missing laptop "in her apartment in order to keep it away from the FBI -- not to protect Weiner, but to protect Hillary?  Is the laptop that was seized in the FBI sweep of the Abedin/ Weiner apartment as part of the Weiner criminal probe the one that belonged to Hillary? A laptop that's been missing for 2 years.

It sure seems like it.

Has the case of the missing laptop been solved?

That's Hillary's worst nightmare.

The laptop has been "missing" for two years and Clinton and her aides claim that they have no idea where it is.

But a week ago, the FBI announced that there were 650,000 emails on the device seized from Weiner including thousands to and from Huma and Hillary regarding State Department matters.

Why would they be on a laptop that belonged to Weiner?

And last night, CBS News reported that the FBI discovered State Department emails on the laptop seized from Anthony Weiner. These emails are new to the FBI, not duplicates, and were never turned over to FBI.

There was good reason for Clinton to hide the laptop. It contained ALL of the Hillary Clinton emails that were originally on her personal serve when she worked in the State Department. It had not yet been picked clean yet because no one knew it existed. That laptop housed the 33,000 emails designated as  "personal" that Hillary never turned over to the State Dept. and claimed to delete.  The story of its alleged disappearance is laughable.

Someone has had the "missing" laptop for the past two years. And that someone had to be one of Hillary's most trusted aides. Huma Abedin would be at the top of that list.

Was the laptop one that was not owned by Anthony Weiner and was, unfortunately for Hillary and Huma, just caught up in the sweep?

It's Hillary's worst nightmare.

Here's how the emails got on the laptop:

After leaving the State Dept., Clinton aide Monica Hanley downloaded all of Hillary's emails from the Chappaqua server onto a laptop to use as a reference for a future book. They were supposed to go to the Clinton homes, but Hanley says she forgot to hand them over.  Much later, Hanley claims to have discovered the laptop in her apartment and sent it to Platte River so they could download the files onto the new server.

That's where it gets interesting. Platte River sent it to someone by mail, (not identified by FBI) but it was later LOST. Hanley suggested that it arrived when the Clinton office was moving and got lost in the shuffle.

Seriously? Are they all ditzes?

The FBI recovered over 17,000 new deleted emails. And now they've recovered more on Weiner's computer.

It's never been clear who actually owns the computer.

But what's missing is the original laptop with ALL of the emails on it.

So was it hidden in the Abedin-Weiner apartment and picked up serendipitously by the FBI?

It's very likely. And that's bad news for Hillary.

The only question is whether we get the answer before Election Day.

[parkerdivine]

Case in point surrounding my post within another area to you.

You are propaganda drunk and this proves it.

Clinton will destroy the middle-class? Seriously? What do you think Trump will do? (Rhetorical question). 

Yes, I am serious she will destroy the middle class.  She and Billy got a head start signing NAFTA into law when, if Billy were to have been a democrat and Hillary one as well,they would have vetoed it and let the republicans take blame.

While Secretary of State, Clinton worked on behalf of 60 corporations to get their businesses in 60 different countries; taking jobs from the American workers. She also pushed fracking onto Europe and most of those nations have kicked out Cheney and his crew of frackers.

She endorsed the TPP as the "gold Standard" of trade deals when she was Secretary of State. THEN she lied in campaigning saying she didn't know what was in it, all the time claiming to be kept abreast of what was going on in Syria. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MpLQzeCoNnA

I know how you hate references to her from media.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySYYHzj3evY

Which Clinton do you think you'll end up with?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MAPY9k_TCvc

[Henry Hawk]

Trump is under investigation on a number of fronts, with indictments pending or hearings scheduled for November and December of this year. Then there are the 75+ other lawsuits that have yet to be scheduled. . .

That doesn't matter though does it? 

Well, I don't know, but I don't think Trump is under possible investigation by the FBI.  And it is looking more and more like Hillary may very well be.

THAT does indeed mater to me.

[parkerdivine]

Trump is under investigation on a number of fronts, with indictments pending or hearings scheduled for November and December of this year. Then there are the 75+ other lawsuits that have yet to be scheduled. . .

That doesn't matter though does it? 

Depends..what's he being indicted for?  Money laundering funds from a "Foundation" to his PAC?  Giving Uranium to Russia in exchange for bribes to a Foundation? Giving weapons permits to the ISIS nation of Saudi Arabia after receiving bribes to a foundation?  How about election fraud? 

What are his charges? The same things that got Billy impeached?