General Election 2016 - Trump v. Clinton

[The Troll]

Like the old saying, people rise to the level of their incompetence.

  Well Anne, I'm saying,"That the Republican Party is like a septic tank in reverse.  The shit and garbage rises to the top so it can fuck up the entire political system and American way of life.     

[Exterminator]

"Karma is a bitch...in a pantsuit."

[me]

From today's N.Y Times: I first heard this on Morning Joe. Today. No matter whether or not Trump's followers ever hear about this or even understand it if they do, well, this is HUGE:

I Ran the C.I.A. Now I'm Endorsing Hillary Clinton.
By MICHAEL J. MORELL AUG. 5, 2016

During a 33-year career at the Central Intelligence Agency, I served presidents of both parties — three Republicans and three Democrats. I was at President George W. Bush's side when we were attacked on Sept. 11; as deputy director of the agency, I was with President Obama when we killed Osama bin Laden in 2011.

I am neither a registered Democrat nor a registered Republican. In my 40 years of voting, I have pulled the lever for candidates of both parties. As a government official, I have always been silent about my preference for president.

No longer. On Nov. 8, I will vote for Hillary Clinton. Between now and then, I will do everything I can to ensure that she is elected as our 45th president.

Two strongly held beliefs have brought me to this decision. First, Mrs. Clinton is highly qualified to be commander in chief. I trust she will deliver on the most important duty of a president — keeping our nation safe. Second, Donald J. Trump is not only unqualified for the job, but he may well pose a threat to our national security.

I spent four years working with Mrs. Clinton when she was secretary of state, most often in the White House Situation Room. In these critically important meetings, I found her to be prepared, detail-oriented, thoughtful, inquisitive and willing to change her mind if presented with a compelling argument.

I also saw the secretary's commitment to our nation's security; her belief that America is an exceptional nation that must lead in the world for the country to remain secure and prosperous; her understanding that diplomacy can be effective only if the country is perceived as willing and able to use force if necessary; and, most important, her capacity to make the most difficult decision of all — whether to put young American women and men in harm's way.

Mrs. Clinton was an early advocate of the raid that brought Bin Laden to justice, in opposition to some of her most important colleagues on the National Security Council. During the early debates about how we should respond to the Syrian civil war, she was a strong proponent of a more aggressive approach, one that might have prevented the Islamic State from gaining a foothold in Syria.

I never saw her bring politics into the Situation Room. In fact, I saw the opposite. When some wanted to delay the Bin Laden raid by one day because the White House Correspondents Dinner might be disrupted, she said, "Screw the White House Correspondents Dinner."

In sharp contrast to Mrs. Clinton, Mr. Trump has no experience on national security. Even more important, the character traits he has exhibited during the primary season suggest he would be a poor, even dangerous, commander in chief.

These traits include his obvious need for self-aggrandizement, his overreaction to perceived slights, his tendency to make decisions based on intuition, his refusal to change his views based on new information, his routine carelessness with the facts, his unwillingness to listen to others and his lack of respect for the rule of law.

The dangers that flow from Mr. Trump's character are not just risks that would emerge if he became president. It is already damaging our national security.

President Vladimir V. Putin of Russia was a career intelligence officer, trained to identify vulnerabilities in an individual and to exploit them. That is exactly what he did early in the primaries. Mr. Putin played upon Mr. Trump's vulnerabilities by complimenting him. He responded just as Mr. Putin had calculated.

Mr. Putin is a great leader, Mr. Trump says, ignoring that he has killed and jailed journalists and political opponents, has invaded two of his neighbors and is driving his economy to ruin. Mr. Trump has also taken policy positions consistent with Russian, not American, interests — endorsing Russian espionage against the United States, supporting Russia's annexation of Crimea and giving a green light to a possible Russian invasion of the Baltic States.

In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation.

www.nytimes.com

Guess he doesn't want to meet with a sudden unexplained death. 

[Exterminator]

Guess he doesn't want to meet with a sudden unexplained death.

I suppose that's a joke too, right?

[me]

I suppose that's a joke too, right?

You'll never really know for sure will ya?  Take it however you want it matters not to me.

[Palehorse]

 

[Palehorse]

I'm going with 53 pages by the time the election is decided.

And near the end of August we are at. . . 21.

[Locutus]

Oh good!  Another asshat from Kentucky. 

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When conservative Christians gathered in Washington, DC, this past weekend for the annual Values Voter Summit, prominent Republicans, including Donald Trump and Mike Pence, delivered a series of tirades against transgender and abortion rights and pledged to defend Christian values from a Hillary Clinton presidency. But it was a speech by Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin, in which he stated that bloodshed might be necessary if Clinton is elected, that emerged as perhaps the most shocking address from the weekend event.

"Whose blood will be shed?" Bevin said. "It may be that of those in this room. It might be that of our children and grandchildren. I have nine children. It breaks my heart to think that it might be their blood that is needed to redeem something, to reclaim something, that we through our apathy and our indifference have given away."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/matt-bevin-hillary-clinton-blood-shed-value-voters

[Purplelady1040]

Oh good!  Another asshat from Kentucky. 

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When conservative Christians gathered in Washington, DC, this past weekend for the annual Values Voter Summit, prominent Republicans, including Donald Trump and Mike Pence, delivered a series of tirades against transgender and abortion rights and pledged to defend Christian values from a Hillary Clinton presidency. But it was a speech by Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin, in which he stated that bloodshed might be necessary if Clinton is elected, that emerged as perhaps the most shocking address from the weekend event.

"Whose blood will be shed?" Bevin said. "It may be that of those in this room. It might be that of our children and grandchildren. I have nine children. It breaks my heart to think that it might be their blood that is needed to redeem something, to reclaim something, that we through our apathy and our indifference have given away."

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2016/09/matt-bevin-hillary-clinton-blood-shed-value-voters

I can't stand Bevin. He is an idiot and I wouldn't have voted for him if he was running for dog catcher

[Palehorse]

Oh good!  Another asshat from Kentucky. 

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"Weeeeeee"

[Locutus]

Here is an interesting graphic on past presidential elections.  It compares standings in mid-September with the actual election results some 50 days later.

[libby]

Interesting.

[Anne]

It is an interesting chart. I wonder how many people realize just 4 percentage points can make a difference of 112 electoral votes.

[The Troll]

You'll never really know for sure will ya?  Take it however you want it matters not to me.

 
                                                 We all know you have a Rhino hide for skin and black lump of coal for a heart.     

[Locutus]

It's debate time!!